beyond_death
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Man the episode was fucking amazing. Cant wait/hope to see entire fights all over the planet that last for less than a second sometime in the future.
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dead souls
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Now that's how you do a midseason finale. Marvelous.
That Joe/Barry bonding scene, damn must have got something in my eye.
That Joe/Barry bonding scene, damn must have got something in my eye.
unholyrevenger72
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Wells is Reverse Flash,
but doesn't have innate speedster powers like Barry, instead his suit provides the source of his speed and needs to be recharged, hence today's grand theft tachyon episode, and why no one had seen reverse flash since Barry's Mother's Murder, he was conserving what power was left in the suit to steal the tachyon-a-ma-bob,
Great episode. Reverse Flash was really well done and that Joe/Barry speech was a lot more emotional than I was expecting. Lovely moment.
Nice to see Barry confess his feeling to Iris so soon, rather than having it stretch out for the whole season. Though it was kinda getting silly how pretty much everyone but Iris knew about Barry's feelings towards her ha.
Nice to see Barry confess his feeling to Iris so soon, rather than having it stretch out for the whole season. Though it was kinda getting silly how pretty much everyone but Iris knew about Barry's feelings towards her ha.
Yeah, time travel is definitely incoming.
Even though Tachyons don't exist, their hypothetical existence is the only "addition" or alteration we can make to relativity as we know it to allow for the ability to travel backwards in time.
Forwards has always been a possibility.
Even though Tachyons don't exist, their hypothetical existence is the only "addition" or alteration we can make to relativity as we know it to allow for the ability to travel backwards in time.
Forwards has always been a possibility.
DirtyManos
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So I'd say Wells isn't trying to change the future, but trying to preserve it instead? Like he needs The Flash to stay alive for some reason until that point in the future that appears on the newspaper, up til Flash gets beaten by him or disappears?)
But why is he so worried about the future if it seemingly doesn't affect him? In that episode where the Flash doesn't exist in the future, Wells seemed to be alright (didn't cease to exist or anything), so it doesn't look like his fate is tied to future Barry?
Man I hate time travel logic.
But why is he so worried about the future if it seemingly doesn't affect him? In that episode where the Flash doesn't exist in the future, Wells seemed to be alright (didn't cease to exist or anything), so it doesn't look like his fate is tied to future Barry?
Man I hate time travel logic.
RoninChaos
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Wait. What's the difference between the reverse flash and zoom?
One has super speed like The Flash (as long as he's in his suit), the latter mimics superspeed by altering time.
Wiktor
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I think I will replay Far Cry 3, using only bow and pretending it's about Oliver's time on the island
That lift off sequence is like a combination of the Human Torch and Iron Man imo. I LOVE IT!!
Discotheque
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maybe i lack imagination but good lord how hard would it be to make a good flash game. like how do you pull off that gameplay? unless you make it some on rails shit-fest.
arrow would be easy though. a little tomb raider reboot with some arkham asylum.
arrow would be easy though. a little tomb raider reboot with some arkham asylum.
brickarts295
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Okay someone has to help me out on this one.
First, Who was in the yellow suit during the episode?
Second, What did Cisco meat by saying that there was both yellow and red flashes?
and Third, What that hell was that device Wells put in the suit at the end of the episode?
Sorry I'm a newb when it comes to anything but Batman in the DC Universe.
First, Who was in the yellow suit during the episode?
Second, What did Cisco meat by saying that there was both yellow and red flashes?
and Third, What that hell was that device Wells put in the suit at the end of the episode?
Sorry I'm a newb when it comes to anything but Batman in the DC Universe.
So I was right in my assumption that it was Barry and Reverse Flash in the first episode. Wasn't exactly a mystery but I'm still proud of myself for getting it right.
My prediction is that either Wells accidentally caused a Flashpoint-style time boom after going back and trying to stop the car accident, or he's doing the ending of InFamous.
It's alluded to be a time-displaced version of Wells, I think.
When Barry's mom died, she was surrounded in a tornado of red (barry) and yellow (reverse flash) lightning
The device was probably the tachyon prototype that got stolen.
My prediction is that either Wells accidentally caused a Flashpoint-style time boom after going back and trying to stop the car accident, or he's doing the ending of InFamous.
It's alluded to be a time-displaced version of Wells, I think.
When Barry's mom died, she was surrounded in a tornado of red (barry) and yellow (reverse flash) lightning
The device was probably the tachyon prototype that got stolen.
PirateKing
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Are there two yellow in suits? Zoom and Reverse Flash? I can't remember much about Flash comics.
Whatever it is, it has to be open world.
- The yellow guy was the Reverse Flash, one of Flash's main enemies.
- Cisco is saying two speedsters were present the night of Nora's murder, as opposed to just R. Flash. R was the yellow streak, another speedster was the red one.
- The tachyon muguffin they were on about. He's likely using it to power the suit (R. Flash traditionally only has speed while in the suit).
Nabs
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I'd actually prefer WB Montreal for this, their work with AO was fantastic. Plus, RS is probably a bit busy with Batman.
brickarts295
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THAT ENDING. I'M SO CONFUSED!
My thoughts as well. I still don't believe that Wells is Reverse Flash.
My thoughts as well. I still don't believe that Wells is Reverse Flash.
lordfroakie
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Andy Mientus? Nice, more cute guys joining the cast :3
I do agree there's some sort of restrictions on how Wells can use the suit, probably limited power or something. He hasn't used until the last few eps until it's become necessary. But how does he do the voice if he isn't wearing it? That little stinger made everything more vague.
I think I will replay Far Cry 3, using only bow and pretending it's about Oliver's time on the island
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I never thought to do that!
WB Montreal is fucking terrible, so was AO. And they're on Suicide Squad anyway it seems.
Aeternus Malum
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I'm going to throw my hat in the ring and say Wells ISN'T the Reverse-Flash. I think he created the suit but Eddie Thawne steals it in the future. That would explain why RF didn't knock Thawne out.
I have tons of other theories but I'm gonna go with this one. I just can't get why Wells would waste all this time helping Barry.
I have tons of other theories but I'm gonna go with this one. I just can't get why Wells would waste all this time helping Barry.
Probably getting back at Barry for inevitably stealing Iris from him, although killing Barry's mom would lead directly to the creation of The Flash.
I'm still putting time travel into the mix as a possibility for Reverse Flash, with the tachyon machine enabling him to siphon off enough of the speed force to time travel.
And you know when it happens - and it will - it'll be Joe. He's too good for this world.
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Great episode! Between this and the great AoS finale it was a good night for comic book fans.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but Amanda Pays also played Tina McGee on the original Flash series.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but Amanda Pays also played Tina McGee on the original Flash series.
Or they'll snap Iris' neck so that Eddie goes insane and becomes Reverse Flash like he was destined to be.
That'll happen when Eddie walks in on Barry and Iris kissing in the season finale
with Radioactive playing in the background
Rodney McKay
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I like how Reverse Flash was so fast that he was able to turn all the lights on in the stadium AND program the screens to show red and yellow lightning, haha.
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Wiktor
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Nah, both Eddie and Barry will walk on Iris kissing Oliver, thus cementing their bromance to the tune of Radioactive.
Him being dejected/sad when he says that would sound better IMO, shows a kind of tonal shift.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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What the fuck Wells is the Reverse Flash my mind is full of fuck what how
If Reverse Flash was indeed Wells, then it was a Wells from the future. So there were technically two Wells' in the same time period.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I love how fucking terrifying Reverse Flash is.
Like, he is a fucking scary thing.
"My goals are beyond your comprehension."
I fucking believed that shit.
Like, he is a fucking scary thing.
"My goals are beyond your comprehension."
I fucking believed that shit.
I especially liked how he was vibrating the whole damn time. It's such a simple effect but it made him seem ghostly and superhuman, like he's so powerful you can't even see his face.
Here's my guess as to the timeline:
- Modern Wells does not have any powers.
- Future Wells has super speed and backward time travel granted by a powered suit (hereby referred to as Reverse Flash).
- Modern Wells has the suit already but it requires the tachyon to be powered.
- Reverse Flash baits Barry and attacks the lab leading to the tachyon bait idea
which Modern Wells suggestsBarry actually suggest, but Reverse Flash could already know that. - The trap fluctuates because Modern Wells sabotaged it and Reverse Flash knows this, he beats Modern Wells up to allay any suspicions.
- Reverse Flash (off-screen) gives Modern Wells the tachyon allowing him to power up the suit and go back in time to start the chain of events.
I liked it but it made it harder to read Reverse Flash's facial expression. I'm pretty sure he was grinning when kicking the shit out of Barry but it's hard to tell.
I know believe we are at a point where you can do any comic character and audiences will buy into it.
This motherfucker's name is Reverse Flash and he got dudes straight shook. Nevermind the hype for Firestorm, Capt Cold, and people looking forwatd to Grodd.
We're in the golden age, brehs.
This motherfucker's name is Reverse Flash and he got dudes straight shook. Nevermind the hype for Firestorm, Capt Cold, and people looking forwatd to Grodd.
We're in the golden age, brehs.
Jorok Goldblade
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There have been two -
Reverse Flash I / Professor Zoom - Eobard Thawne
Obsessed Flash fanboy from the 25th century, had plastic surgery to resemble Barry Allen and recreated the experiment that gave Barry his powers. Travelled back to meet his idol, but went back too late (after Barry's death) and learned that he would become Barry's nemesis rather than partner, which drove him completely insane. Draws his powers from a "Negative Speed Force" that can negate the powers of speedsters.
Reverse Flash II / Zoom - Hunter Zolomon
A friend of Wally West and fellow forensic investigator, he was paralyzed in an attack by Gorilla Grodd. He tried to get Wally to use the Cosmic Treadmill to travel back in time and stop his paralysis, but Wally told him messing with time was a pretty bad idea. Zolomon tried to use it himself, and wound up gaining time-manipulation powers. He then decided Wally could never be the hero he was meant to be because he hadn't suffered like Barry did, and began attacking Wally's family in order to make him a better hero.
WrenchNinja
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So the suit in Wells' chamber is some kind of prototype right? It looks like he's in the process of doing everything that will let him eventually become the Reverse Flash. Future RF must have given the tachyon device to Wells, which he is then using on his suit and enchanting it somehow.
It may be the RF's powers are not metahuman in origin at all but granted by the suit and/or some kind of genetic therapy (note how Wells' wounds from the fight with RF haven't healed quickly), as seen in the previous episode where he took blood from Blackout's body - he is looking for ways to be able to grant himself powers.
It may be the RF's powers are not metahuman in origin at all but granted by the suit and/or some kind of genetic therapy (note how Wells' wounds from the fight with RF haven't healed quickly), as seen in the previous episode where he took blood from Blackout's body - he is looking for ways to be able to grant himself powers.
RF gave Wells a savage beating, if it was Wells all along then damnnnn he really sold it.
I'm just going to stick with the idea that they are combining the two Reverse-Flashes to give us Eddie and Wells who will both end up wearing the suit. How it works out still needs to be determined, but my current theory is that they are the same person at different points of time or something to that effect.
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