Beat me to it.
LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]
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Beat me to it.
This. I try explaining this to people.
It's extremely expensive for companies to handle this type of attack.
shysaursoft
Member
I'd guess a mix of risk and cost. It's risky to keep doing the same thing, because the longer you go at it, the longer you give an investigation to try and narrow things down.
Also, it costs money to rent time on these big botnets. I seriously doubt the group in question here has their own botnet of this size (they might be trying to grow one as we speak though), so they're renting time on the control of one, to have some fun with.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Miktar reading that made my head almost explode! Lol
plz don't give them ideas.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Somebody has not read the thread and the nature of the attack.
Exactly, I posted about this earlier but Nintendo goes hard when it comes to quality. Remember when Pokemon X got sold early in the shop in the UK? Nintendo tracked down every single sold unit and confiscated it.....by any means necessary.
If someone started leaking Nintendo stuff tonight, Nintendo would have them taken out by tomorrow....they dont mess around.
This made everything okay
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Botnets cost money to rent.
Only reason they did it today was because they got those pre-paid credit cards from mom and dad.
Which console?
I'm playing on ps4 offline right now.
shysaursoft
Member
To a point, but it's not that hard to try and create an anonymizing buffer between you and the action of setting the botnet in motion. All too often, attackers will have someone else initiate the attack, or purchase the time on the botnet.
Sorry.
I was trying to go for the simplest explanation possible, and ended up with a giant wall of 'tl;dr;'Its because you can't actually differentiate between what traffic is actually coming in until you actually check it?
Imagine you live in a house and you only let in people whom you designate as friends. Unfortunately, the only way to tell if someone is your friend is they have to ring a doorbell, and you have to go up to the door, open it and physically check if they are your friend or not before you let them in.
Now, if it was normal internet traffic, you can handle this simple task fairly well.
Now if a DDOS was going on, imagine millions of people (who have no business being there) rushing to your door, and each one constantly ringing the doorbell, and you having to keep getting back up, open the damn door, and check each one.
I mean, by your example, a system is already in place like that: authetication/security certificates. But like I said, you still have to actually check each connection to even verify. A DDOS is just the massive traffic spike while the server is going crazy trying to figure out who the hell is trying to come in.
ElodieTicotoune
Banned
When exactly did these attack start? i got a new xbox this morning at 1am wich i unwrapped with the kids. So we put Assasin's creed Unity to download since it came with our bundle. Since 2am this morning to RIGHT NOW (10:38PM) and its only at 78%... how long has this ddos been happening since, cuz these install times are fucking stupid right now...
This is a digital code that we got, so no disc install.
This is a digital code that we got, so no disc install.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
Thanks for the explanations
Go to settings then network and put it in offline mode.
Because they don't care. If they really wanted to hit Nintendo, it would have already happened by now.
You get more attention when you hit the two most popular consoles instead of one hardly anyone owns or cares about.
Since earlier this morning....also unity is a 60GB download ...it takes time....but at78% it should have been ready to play
How would they be able to sort what's good and what's not good without first looking at each request?
Ultimately that's the issue. DDOS attacks use the very basics of a network handshake against the end users. Not much you can do besides block whole swaths which knock legitimate users offline too.
dripdripsplash
Member
Rather sad that KimDotCom is giving these people shit in order for them to stop their dumb attacks.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/548305704776241152/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/548305704776241152/photo/1
ElodieTicotoune
Banned
I have a very fast internet, this is absurd
Gambit 1138
Banned
In light of recent events it looks like there will be an explosion in job openings in the area of cyber security in 2015
the same reason as ouya's servers
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Zing!
Poodlestrike
Banned
Lots of people care about Mario.
However, not many care enough to buy a Wii U, apparently.
That's cold, even for me.
Mario, sure, but not the wii u in general. Also has the added benefit of taking out CoD, Destiny, etc. a lot of people likely got this year.
What? I'm talking about the Wii U silly. XD
aspiegamer
Member
He was apparently trolled since things aren't actually fixed.
sturgboski
Member
I know that is the case at my company. CIO is making it a major item of focus, doubling the budget for it in the new year.
GavinUK86
Member
lol ouya
TheDarkTriforce
Banned
Yeah! And Sony and Microsoft should do the same now, get Lizard Squad and put them live long in jail!!!
ASSauLTxMasTER
Member
Both networks completely down again. FFS
Gamezone
Gold Member
This must be terrible for new users who got an Xbox One for christmas. The day one update is mandatory to even get the console working, and the bundles only include digital games.
One year after the release, why can't the HDD come with the mandatory update installed so people at least can play offline?
One year after the release, why can't the HDD come with the mandatory update installed so people at least can play offline?
4chan kiddies, confirmed.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
So Lizard Squad have a account in GAF?
Like what is said above, it is very difficult to trace these attacks back to the origin. This group will get caught though because they're not hiding in the shadows, they want attention. They're extorting people for money and services, they eventually will feel unstoppable and will slip up. That is pretty much how anyone in that type of scene gets caught, they will get too comfortable and either will log into something without using a decent VPN and boom they're caught.
It won't be overnight but they will slip up and will be caught, best advice now is to ignore them and do something else (easier said than done for most people)
It won't be overnight but they will slip up and will be caught, best advice now is to ignore them and do something else (easier said than done for most people)
Nintendo seems to have a sponsor! XD
Forensic Scene
Member
Gone for eight hours and I still can't get on Destiny.
PanicFreak
Member
I still don't understand the need to take services offline. It's really lame.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
There's no fucking way these jokers take down XBL/PSN and then stopped for 100 bucks a year value.
What the fuck
MvmntInGrn
Member
So I've spent most of the day on Wii U and local multiplayer....
but I can't even get on Twitch while XBL is down? Thats silly. At least Sunset Overdrive can be played offline.
but I can't even get on Twitch while XBL is down? Thats silly. At least Sunset Overdrive can be played offline.