forgeforsaken
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Before or after the weather patch? Because seriously, I think you guys made the right call with Guilty Gear but that weather in DC is ridiculous.
Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
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Before or after the weather patch? Because seriously, I think you guys made the right call with Guilty Gear but that weather in DC is ridiculous.
VibratingDonkey
Member
They're racist against racing games.
Jeff's weird. Some "textures don't look all that great" in every game ever. Except The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, which should've won. Playing that game almost makes you want to run screaming (joyfully) into the woods and just shove your face in the moss to appreciate how pretty nature is.
I can respect Guilty Gear though. That game's undeniably visually excellent. Would've opposed Neverending Nightmares purely because it makes me uncomfortable and I don't like it, even though that is the entire point...I still don't like it.
Jawbreaker
Member
I see the opposite. From my experience, people tend to think it's the best pure racing game in a long time. Most of the complaints were (rightfully) about the broken online portion of the game.
The hub isn't working correctly right now unfortunately. There's content that's missing from the hub like Cara Ellison's list and the original GOTY stuff. They'll probably fix it by the time Day 2 coverage drops.
Jimmyfenix
Member
What if Giantbomb is Frog Fractions 2?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Don't really like how Guilty Gear looks tbh. It's cool they were able to mimic sprites with polygonal models but when the weird camera stuff happens it just breaks it in a bad way.
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Mr. Game & Watch is polygonal too best graphic 2001
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Mr. Game & Watch is polygonal too best graphic 2001
Maybe it was mostly anger for the broken online part of the game. To be honest, I have been disconnected heavily recently, and might of just been hearing the general grumbles about the social aspects being broken at launch.
Ah, well then.. the support is understandable.
You must not have read any of the DC threads on GAF because tons of people love it, especially after the weather patch.
www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=947251
I've still only played it for five minutes at a Gamestop because of the totally inexcusable delay of the PS+ version. But between that and online videos I saw enough to make me think it was one of the best dozen looking games of 2014. I didn't play GoW3 at all but was still baffled when it didn't get brought up four years ago.
Jimmyfenix
Member
AwakenedCloud
Member
You DO realize that Jeff's favorite game of last generation is a racing game,right?
Servbot #42
Unconfirmed Member
People can be dumb. In other news if Valiant hearts is spoiled in the next GOTY podcast i am gonna have to skip it, that is the one game this year i don't want spoiled for some reason. I should get it.
Thanks!
Jimmyfenix
Member
Ubisoft might walk away with a lot of awards this year.
Good and Bad
Good and Bad
The ending gets blown wide open, yeah, so be wary. I think in best story?
Surprisingly, I've been consistently agreeing with Brad's arguments on day one.
DOTA 2 has continued to have a huge impact on the gaming world in its second year of release. Look at how big The International has become. But the others seemed eager to dismiss it not because it's a bad choice for old game of 2014, but because "LOL DOTA BRAD DOTA HERP DERP" which is a pretty shitty reason.
"BRAD DESTINY DERP DERP" seemed to be the reason they were initially dismissive of Destiny in the best looking category, too. Until Jeff spoke up, that is. Which is kind of bullshit. I get as tired of Brad's filibustering as anyone else, but if they're not even going to give him a minimum amount of respect for his opinions then their GOTY deliberation process is broken.
Also, Jeff's dismissiveness of GTA5 as just a remaster was super lame. If you played the 360/PS3 version and then switch to the Bone/PS4 version, the differences are staggering. The amount of reworking done to make that game look so good, particularly in first person (signage, people, all sorts of street and building textures, game mechanics in general) go far beyond "HD remake." Rockstar made that game function in an entirely different way than it initially did, and it had to have taken a huge amount of work vs. just doing an upres and calling it a day.
That said, IMO, they made good choices. Seeing Guilty Gear get that kind of recognition is awesome. I can't imagine how much work went into the character models and animations. Pure artistry.
DOTA 2 has continued to have a huge impact on the gaming world in its second year of release. Look at how big The International has become. But the others seemed eager to dismiss it not because it's a bad choice for old game of 2014, but because "LOL DOTA BRAD DOTA HERP DERP" which is a pretty shitty reason.
"BRAD DESTINY DERP DERP" seemed to be the reason they were initially dismissive of Destiny in the best looking category, too. Until Jeff spoke up, that is. Which is kind of bullshit. I get as tired of Brad's filibustering as anyone else, but if they're not even going to give him a minimum amount of respect for his opinions then their GOTY deliberation process is broken.
Also, Jeff's dismissiveness of GTA5 as just a remaster was super lame. If you played the 360/PS3 version and then switch to the Bone/PS4 version, the differences are staggering. The amount of reworking done to make that game look so good, particularly in first person (signage, people, all sorts of street and building textures, game mechanics in general) go far beyond "HD remake." Rockstar made that game function in an entirely different way than it initially did, and it had to have taken a huge amount of work vs. just doing an upres and calling it a day.
That said, IMO, they made good choices. Seeing Guilty Gear get that kind of recognition is awesome. I can't imagine how much work went into the character models and animations. Pure artistry.
That's interesting, I would have considered it for best moment.
CosmicQueso
Member
I played a couple days ago, in fact. Not sure why how long I played matters? I'm not saying it's not a great looking game. I am saying it's not the ordained, best looking game, bar none, of the year.
WTF is going on in this thread today?
They were talking about the re-release dude. Not the original. They've played the game, they've mentioned it many times over the years.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Okay... here's a transcript from the last bombcast, slightly paraphrased except for the bolded.
- Yo Tie Fighter got re-released
- Tie Fighter is one of the best games ever made
Jeff: That said, none of us have played it
- Haha
(Timestamp: 31:22)
And if they mean the re-release... OKAY, but it isn't like it was a remaster or anything, it's the same game they originally released.
Mechanized
Member
Yeah most people like the game for what it is, and there is no denying the weather effects look goddamn amazing. I will agree with the sentiment that the weather doesn't make Driveclub a better game, but I think what's there is already solid now that it has been fixed. I think Jeff's criticism about the driving being bad is just flat out wrong. He might not like it but it is by no means bad.
shadyspace
Banned
how could you not tell that he was referring to the re-release.
They're obviously talking about the re-released version. Brad has said many times that Tie Fighter is one of his all time favourite games, and it's up there for Jeff too. I would imagine that Dan is the only one who hasn't played it due to not owning a gaming PC growing up.
Did you spoil Dragon Age: Inquisition at all in any of the podcasts? It's the only one I haven't finished yet.
The Dear Leader
Banned
I finished Valiant Hearts last night just because you guys said you would spoil it, thanks for helping me clear up my back log, and do you remember any other games that you know you guys will be spoiling?
Incandenza
Banned
Giant Bomb's awards teach a very valuable lesson which is that all end-of-the-year rankings for games or music or movies or whatever are almost entirely arbitary and decided by a mixture of attrition, stubbornness, and selective ignorance. Taking any of them seriously is a fool's errand. Their value is in the exhaustive analysis and discussion that you have while making the decisions, which is ironic because GB is the only games website that actually makes that part publicly available.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The conversation around that was whether or not they played many of the games on the list within the past year, even if they liked them a lot. It's why they said no to Windjammers.
I still find it strange that no site has copied GB's GOTY podcasts. It has to be one of the most popular things they do. I get that it's not practical for a big site like Gamespot (Danny mentioned that 25 people decided their awards), but for a smaller site like Gametrailers? Seems like a no-brainer to me since they have these discussions anyway, so why not tape them?
soundscream
Member
Did Jeff once offer you a warm can of Country Time lemonade?
Bubble Metropolis
Member
There was a pretty long skit during the podcast about how they were only concerned about games that had personal impacts for them over the year and, to paraphrase, "who gives a fuck if someone else liked a game." They dismissed DOTA after pointing out that Brad was probably more impacted by Destiny this year rather than DOTA. Seemed like a pretty clean dismissal.
Even people who love that game don't care much about the story. So I would say that that's not a game you should be scared of getting spoiled, really.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Honestly I don't think that game has a huge ending that can be spoiled really.
LurkerPrime
Member
There's a link to it right on their front page...
They can't spoil anything, don't worry. To explain why would spoil it.
Story in mordor is not really that good to get spoiled and it wont probably wont get spoiled as it wont be on the story list Probably.
I'm sure the internet would explode if sites like Gametrailers or IGN did GotYs like GB, because they essentially happen the same way.
Driveclub has a crazy cult following here on GAF, so the reactions were expected. I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned the Donkey Kong talk, honestly.
The banner in the OP also links to Giant Bomb's GOTY page.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I didn't get that when listening to it, my bad.
"Dude, you have not played more than like an hour of that thing!"
This was Brad's response to Jeff's negative opinion on how GTA V looks on Xbone/PS4 at 1:52:50.
nckillthegrimace
Member
I'm still trying to parse the notion that Mario Kart has a terrible framerate.
They were talking about local multiplayer.
Multiplayer is really a bug step down from single player.
That was a weird point for me because even in 4 player races it still a solid 30 fps.
Servbot #42
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks Rudds! Yeah i'll probably just skip the GOTY podcast for best story and i'll try to just buy Valiant Hearts for PS4 whenever the PSN webstore returns which should be any minute now yeah....
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Here's the ending to Mordor: you fight an evil sauron type dude and you can guess the result.
No one likes Mordor for the story it tells, people like it for the stories that the game allows to be told through its open world randomness.
LurkerPrime
Member
How will Brad get DotA or Destiny into an awards category now? I'm trembling with anticipation...
Really now? since its been updated? the framerate with 4 players is super dodgy, sub30. it has to be.
It's 2012 all over again: Ubisoft consistently shit the bed, except for Far Cry, which was fantastic and one of the year's saving graces.
Child of Light and Valiant Hearts were two of the best games this year.