7DollarHagane
Banned
Yup this isn't halo, just another game using the halo skin to appeal to the call of duty market.. Sucks.
I'll pick it up to play the single player when it gets cheaper.
Halo 5: Guardians Beta Thread | Hot Red on Blue Action
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Yup this isn't halo, just another game using the halo skin to appeal to the call of duty market.. Sucks.
I'll pick it up to play the single player when it gets cheaper.
Shyakugaun
Banned
So when do we get new maps...
Twilight Gap
Member
where's the joke?
If the AR was powerful weapon and placed on the map, it would be desirable. That's the way it works. Lower the aim assist so it's slightly difficult to use.
When you spawn with an AR and make it "an easy to use entry-level weapon", you can't make it powerful or it breaks the sandbox. So you've got people who pick up BRs spawn killing the people with weak ARs like we've seen in almost every Halo game. It's worse when there are DMRs around.
If nothing different is tried, we'll still be discussing the relevancy of these weapons in Halo 9.
First killtac from the beta.
http://xboxclips.com/JAYRMe+D/ad8d8aa0-dda2-4530-99e9-ed3bdb58346d
Some very intense matches in the last hour. Really fun, down to the wire.
http://xboxclips.com/JAYRMe+D/ad8d8aa0-dda2-4530-99e9-ed3bdb58346d
Some very intense matches in the last hour. Really fun, down to the wire.
You've seen BR/Snipes on MLG H2 from 10 years ago, right? It's always had some twitch to it depending on skill and game settings.
Yeah the spam is ridiculous. Either nerf them or just allow us to spawn with one.
NO DUAL WELDING
AR is already OP, it does NOT need a buff
Pistols only starting weapon? This isn't CE. And Pistols already fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. They don't need to be a 4sk.
BR is on the map already.....?
RowdyReverb
Member
I'm going to have to disagree with you. I have felt that with H5 beta, each of those guns really has a distinct role in the sandbox, possibly for the first time in the Halo series. Each gun has its ideal use scenario and tends to prevail when employed appropriately. In order of efficacy from closest to longest range, you have SMG, AR, Pistol, BR, and DMR with just the right amount of overlap between each (note that the starting weapons fall right in the middle). Picking the right weapon for an encounter (or picking the right encounter for your weapon) is essential in this game.
I've been really enjoying how it's not just a race to pick up BR and use it exclusively, but rather a game of adapting to the weapons at hand. This is a good sandbox.
Yes. All my friends agree on this. And they're hard to see and hear, so half the time you can't dodge them - and the other half of the time even if you do they take down all your shields or kill you.
Twilight Gap
Member
What's the difference between the AR and SMG, and is that difference enough to validate the existence of both weapons?
RowdyReverb
Member
Thrusters are the nerf to grenades. You could never dodge grenades so easily in previous Halo games.
SMG almost always beats AR at very close range and almost always loses to AR at mid-close range. They have clearly different effective ranges.
Bornstellar
Member
OMG.
Crappy teammates make this game THE WORST.
When you have a good squad it's fantastic, but I keep getting matched up with the leftover scrubs.
Crappy teammates make this game THE WORST.
When you have a good squad it's fantastic, but I keep getting matched up with the leftover scrubs.
Twilight Gap
Member
Very close range is for Shotguns.
The SMG's unique property was that you could carry two of them. On its own, it's a less versatile AR. It's redundant.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Well I'm looking for a spot if you've got one open.
I'm specifically talking about nerfing the AR. If 343 nerfs the AR, there is no reason for it to be in MP unless they give it 60 rounds.
MrFrankFontaine
Banned
Anyone else want to join? Send DEADP0OL or Shadowsfell a friend request.
ShadowsFell
Member
We've got two spots open right now. Send a friend request to ShadowsFell if you're interested
SpiceMelange
Member
Its the less powerful but more obtainable shotgun
Twilight Gap
Member
Plasma Rifle does that job. Or it should but it hasn't in recent years.
I'm just stirring the pot to see how to eliminate AR starts from Halo and the best way to do that IMO is to make the AR a competent and uniqueweapon and put it on the map. Don't want BR starts in 4v4? Perfectly fine, but don't give me an AR and spawn me out in the open.
AR starts are the one good thing Halo 4 managed to get rid of.
Having the SMG as a alternate close quarters but not instant kill weapon works. It'll be interesting to see the range on the shotgun though
There has always been an AR and an SMG. SMG has a better scope in this game than the AR. Seems to be more powerful.
RowdyReverb
Member
I was referring to non power weapons. You could add sniper to the end of the list as well if you want, making it Shotgun, SMG, AR, Pistol, BR, DMR, Sniper
I may have quoted the wrong person with my post, sry
I've been getting people dropping in 1 or 2's when the game starts. Then I'm forced to either drop in KDA or drop in rank. From no fault of my own. This is why the ranking system sucks.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I get that its a beta but you have to seriously quit the program after every match or it just sits you on the searching for players screen forever? Awful.
Twilight Gap
Member
I don't think that's balanced though. The weapons occupy less space in the niche to create "variety", which makes them less effective on their own.
yup. And you can't back out after the timer disappears.
Snap party and click on leave > multiplayer.
TheGreyHulk
Member
SMG is a pickup weapon. It's got a higher rate of fire, making it more powerful up close since you can land more bullets in a short amount of time. Downside is you'll run out of bullets quick if you aren't landing your shots, the spread isn't as tight and the range isn't as great.
It deserves to be in.
RowdyReverb
Member
I guess it's just a matter of opinion then. I think it's fun to have several weapons with narrow and slightly overlapping effective ranges rather than just play with the same jack-of-all-trades gun all the time. Perhaps it's not "Halo" because each prior game had such a gun, but I think it makes for interesting arena shooter gameplay and it's one of the things that sets H5 apart from the other popular online FPS games of late.
Uh, did anyone who says the TTK is too fast play CE?
Also, can I ask for huge favor of having my sprint poll linked in OP? HaloGAF results are getting dwarfed by r/Halo (about 44 entries from here, over 1000 from r/Halo) so I'd like to hopefully try to get some better visibility here.
Also, can I ask for huge favor of having my sprint poll linked in OP? HaloGAF results are getting dwarfed by r/Halo (about 44 entries from here, over 1000 from r/Halo) so I'd like to hopefully try to get some better visibility here.
They really are.
Just had a team that didn't go for power weapons. The entire other team picked up the snipers. I think that new power weapons should only spawn after the last set has run out of ammo.
Thanks, I'll try that.
Anyone want to play? I'm sick of being on shitty teams and losing. I can't rank up at all because of losses even though I'm playing well.
I'm 1.6KDA, 50% W/L. Shadow XBL
Yes this! My biggest issue is the grenades. They are ridiculous. Certainly needs a nerf.
But between it and the AR, do they both deserve to be in? An SMG and Pistol start is just as good as it is now. 343 needs to decide which weapons deserve to be in and the AR and SMG overlap the most. I say take out the SMG, give the AR a 60 round clip with a crazy spread and no zoom.
Dynasty8
Member
I'm hearing many ridiculous complaints about this and that being overpowered... IMO, the game feels amazing, almost perfect...even this far from release. I hope they change very little. Not to mention there will be separate playlist for BR starts and other type of games.
People complaining would love this game way more if they team up with each other. Playing alone and getting wrecked by an organized team sucks for any game.
People complaining would love this game way more if they team up with each other. Playing alone and getting wrecked by an organized team sucks for any game.
Halo 3 had AR starts and SMG pickups. I don't understand the problem.
Twilight Gap
Member
Halo 3's sandbox was awful. Everything felt and sounded weak and was either inaccurate or inconsistent.
Except the Sniper.
Halo 3 had dual wielding, Halo 2 had no AR, The DMR replaced the BR in Reach. Unfortunately, all the guns can't be in MP due to "balance."
Twin Tails
Member
CloudyTuba
Member
I am fairly consistently first on my team but because the rest suck I end up losing a lot of matches and my rank never goes up because it does not take into account personal performance.
Disagree. I loved it.
RowdyReverb
Member
At first I thought it was weird that they were using high pitched sound effects (shields down, hit marker, etc), but now I appreciate it because I can easily hear it over the rest of the noise. Just curious, are you using the wireless headphone adapter or a third party solution?
Im currently running some Sennheiser 598s through a Astro MixAmp Pro. I tried it through the stereo adapter as well and it wasn't bad at all.