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[Sub_Level]

It's a simple question.

+ Burke never made it back to the Sulaco so it wasn't him.
+ Hicks was out of commission so he didn't have time to look around the dropship while Ripley was busy rescuing Newt.
+ Even though Aliens establishes that Bishop is actually a good robot, it's not like Alien 3 was particularly reverent of Aliens so making Bishop a sneaky, sabotaging robot like Ash has precedence.
+ It also may not have been Bishop's own personal choice if he had programmed parameters that forced him to do such an action but not relay that information to Ripley when he was looking at the flight recorder.
+ There is a small period of time the movie skips between when the dropship lands in the Sulaco hangar and when Ripley and Bishop are talking before he gets stabbed. Even if you don't believe it was Bishop, this period of time and the time when Ripley is getting the power loader ready are literally the only 2 possible time slots the egg could have gotten in the cryo chamber area.

 

[xxracerxx]

The Queen did it.

 

[Sub_Level]

The Queen did it.

The dropship area the Queen was in isn't the same as the cryo chambers. Newt and Bishop both had a clear view of the Queen while Ripley was getting the power loader ready so they would have told her if she placed an egg somewhere. Also when she comes up the elevator, she doesn't appear to be holding any egg on her body unless she was like groundhogging it from her whatever-the-hell-orifice-they-have.

 

[Horse Detective]

The Queen did it.

I think they pretty much guaranteed this.

 

[TAJ]

What is this Alien 3 you speak of?

 

[xxracerxx]

What is this Alien 3 you speak of?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

That is a bald-faced lie, you son of a bitch.

Bishop was too good for this sinful earth.

 

[Freshmaker]

It was Jonesy. The alien left him alone in Alien. Clearly a carrier.

 

[gabbo]

The dropship area the Queen was in isn't the same as the cryo chambers. Newt and Bishop both had a clear view of the Queen while Ripley was getting the power loader ready so they would have told her if she placed an egg somewhere. Also when she comes up the elevator, she doesn't appear to be holding any egg on her body unless she was like groundhogging it from her whatever-the-hell-orifice-they-have.

Yeah... The queen still did it.

 

[tuffy]

Since the Queen's egg-sac was exploded by grenades before Bishop could return with the drop-ship, there's really no place for an egg to get on board the ship. So the whole of Alien 3 must be some sort of hypersleep-induced nightmare.

 

[Sub_Level]

Since the Queen's egg-sac was exploded by grenades before Bishop could return with the drop-ship, there's really no place for an egg to get on board the ship. So the whole of Alien 3 must be some sort of hypersleep-induced nightmare.

He had access to specimens in med bay. We never see an egg there, only a live facehugger or two, but it's possible there's one around there no? Again, he could have redacted from telling the marines and co. about it except for maybe Burke.

 

[Banjotanooki]

James Cameron finished Aliens with no hope for a sequel.

Money-hungry executives wanted sequel so they said "Fuck it" and ignored logic and reasoning. SURPRISE ALIEN ON BOARD!

 

[tuffy]

He had access to specimens in med bay. We never see an egg there, only a live facehugger or two, but it's possible there's one around there no? Again, he could have redacted from telling the marines and co. about it except for maybe Burke.

But as I recall, doesn't he have to get from the med bay area to the drop-ship landing site through a very small tube? I don't think he could've gotten an egg there beforehand.

 

[Sub_Level]

But as I recall, doesn't he have to get from the med bay area to the drop-ship landing site through a very small tube? I don't think he could've gotten an egg there beforehand.

Yes you are correct. But on the other hand we don't know exactly how much time he had from when he landed the ship to when Ripley and Hicks got onto it.

It seems to me like neither bishop or the queen make complete sense.

 

[Leynos]

Yes you are correct. But on the other hand we don't know exactly how much time he had from when he landed the ship to when Ripley and Hicks got onto it.

It seems to me like neither bishop or the queen make complete sense.

You're right, neither really make sense. Hence....

James Cameron finished Aliens with no hope for a sequel.

Money-hungry executives wanted sequel so they said "Fuck it" and ignored logic and reasoning. SURPRISE ALIEN ON BOARD!

 

[xxracerxx]

Maybe a whole bunch of the smaller aliens went around and placed eggs all over the base including in the drop ship before launch and that is the only one you ever see again.

 

[Toa TAK]

There's no such thing as Alien 3.

Like there's no Terminator 3.

 

[Vik]

James Cameron finished Aliens with no hope for a sequel.

Money-hungry executives wanted sequel so they said "Fuck it" and ignored logic and reasoning. SURPRISE ALIEN ON BOARD!

Yep

 

[Sub_Level]

Maybe a whole bunch of the smaller aliens went around and placed eggs all over the base including in the drop ship before launch and that is the only one you ever see again.

But then how does it get from the dropship to the cryo chambers? The queen could not have done it without at least one of the characters seeing her walking across the hangar, reach her arm into the marine locker room and place it conveniently in a corner near the cryo chambers lol

 

[MegalonJJ]

James Cameron finished Aliens with no hope for a sequel.

Money-hungry executives wanted sequel so they said "Fuck it" and ignored logic and reasoning. SURPRISE ALIEN ON BOARD!

Actually, my good sir, at the very end of Aliens, James Cameron left the sound of a facehugger scuttling around somewhere....so what now? eh? EH?

 

[Toxi]

A wizard did it.

Makes more sense than whatever bullshit we're actually supposed to believe. Alien 3 might have the shittiest beginning of any sequel ever.

 

[Sub_Level]

Actually, my good sir, at the very end of Aliens, James Cameron left the sound of a facehugger scuttling around somewhere....so what now? eh? EH?

James Cameron also said he would use more CG if he were to make Aliens in modern times as opposed to guys in suits and other practical effects so maybe everything he does shouldn't be taken as bible

 

[injurai]

this is why cats are better

 

[Toa TAK]

this is why cats are better

You can't get that with cats.

 

[Leynos]

Actually, my good sir, at the very end of Aliens, James Cameron left the sound of a facehugger scuttling around somewhere....so what now? eh? EH?

Oh, shit, I forgot about that. At the very end of the credits there is the sound of an egg opening up. I doubt, however, that he intended for the nonsense that is the beginning of Alien 3.

Some have posited that the egg was actually Bishop's lower half, that the Queen somehow infected it like the deleted scene from Alien with Brett, and Dallas becoming eggs.

 

[MegalonJJ]

James Cameron also said he would use more CG if he were to make Aliens in modern times as opposed to guys in suits and other practical effects so maybe everything he does shouldn't be taken as bible

So you're a heretic!? ;P

 

[frontovik]

No idea. A wizard did it?

That being said, it makes me wonder about how the Alien got onboard the Marines' dropship during their first encounter.

 

[Leynos]

this is why cats are better

Not even the Alien will fuck with a cat. Remember how it looked at Jonesy then scampered away? Yup, scared of cats. Dogs, on the other hand, are just fodder for face huggers.

No idea. A wizard did it?

That being said, it makes me wonder about how the Alien got onboard the Marines' dropship during their first encounter.

Must have been when Spunkmeyer was away taking a piss.

 

[tuffy]

Even if a wizard somehow does get an egg onto the ship, I can't figure out how the facehugger would get inside the cryo tubes since they couldn't get out of their own little plastic specimen tubes without help. And I certainly wasn't clear on how a loose facehugger would crash the whole ship, either.

I guess I can't figure out Alien 3 could exist, therefore it doesn't.

 

[rou021]

Bishop wouldn't have had the time to smuggle an egg on board. And the queen didn't have an eggsack anymore, nor was she clutching any while chasing Ripley. It couldn't have been her either.

My guess is down to either of these two scenarios. First, a warrior holding an egg (or eggs. I think the number of facehuggers varies depending on the cut) ) snuck on board and planted it. This could've happened off camera. Or Weyland-Yutani got ahold of some eggs, infiltrated the ship, and planted them while they were in hypersleep. They aren't great, but those are the best explanations I can think of. In actuality, of the many plot holes in Alien 3, this is probably the biggest. I don't know what they were thinking when writing it.

EDIT: Looks like I was beaten with the warrior hypothesis.

 

[MegalonJJ]

Not even the Alien will fuck with a cat. Remember how it looked at Jonesy then scampered away? Yup, scared of cats. Dogs, on the other hand, are just fodder for face huggers.

That's exec bullshit, everyone knows it came from a cow.

 

[youbastards]

 

[Sub_Level]

Oh, shit, I forgot about that. At the very end of the credits there is the sound of an egg opening up. I doubt, however, that he intended for the nonsense that is the beginning of Alien 3.

Definitely not. In the Alien 3 making of he said something along the lines of appreciating how directors of sequels had to try to "make it their own" when it came to presenting a unique spin on an established universe (just like how he took a unique spin on the first movie) but disapproved that it took something fans liked and threw it away.

 

[Faustus]

There's no such thing as Alien 3.

Like there's no Terminator 3.

Just like there wont be a Terminator 5

 

[Bobby Roberts]

There is no way to explain that egg being there.

Trust me, I'm one of the biggest Alien 3 defenders/apologists I know. There's no way to explain that egg.

It's part of the reason the film is fundamentally broken, in fact. You have to just sorta accept that the premise that makes the entire movie POSSIBLE simply doesn't follow from the movie preceding it.

 

[Sub_Level]

Bishop wouldn't have had the time to smuggle an egg on board. And the queen didn't have an eggsack anymore, nor was she clutching any while chasing Ripley. It couldn't have been her either.

My guess is down to either of these two scenarios. First, a warrior holding an egg (or eggs. I think the number of facehuggers varies depending on the cut) ) snuck on board and planted it. This could've happened off camera. Or Weyland-Yutani got ahold of some eggs, snuck on board, and planted them while they were in hypersleep. They aren't great, but those are the best explanations I can think of. In actuality, of the many plot holes in Alien 3, this is probably the biggest. I don't know what they were thinking when writing it.

Neither of your theories make sense (but I appreciate the post). A warrior would have defended the queen during the battle or attacked them when they were in their undies getting ready to sleep. A Weyland Yutani employee having eggs would COMPLETELY remove the need for one of the big head honcho Company guys to come to the prison planet at the end of Alien 3. They wanted a specimen more than anything. If they already had one, they would have taken it to Earth or a space station to experiment with in a controlled environment, not infect someone and hope it would be a queen and hope the parasite would be able to break the cryo glass and hope that the possibility of a fire wouldn't kill the infected and hope the escape pod would land on an inhabited planet where nearby people could conveniently recover the infected body.

 

[Shaanyboi]

It was just a badly written movie.

 

[RadioHeadAche]

Alien3 is an alternate universe. Ripley believed there was important research to be done and brought the egg back. She put it in the corner on the ceiling, because no one would think to look there.

 

[Sub_Level]

Apparently the way it gets explained in

Spoiler

Gearbox Presents Aliens Colonial Marines

is that a ship docked onto the Sulaco, had xenomorphs and eggs in it, and one planted the egg on there.

That makes sense kind of, but in no way could a viewer infer that just by going from watching Aliens to Alien 3. It is impossible.

 

[Toxi]

Even if a wizard somehow does get an egg onto the ship, I can't figure out how the facehugger would get inside the cryo tubes since they couldn't get out of their own little plastic specimen tubes without help. And I certainly wasn't clear on how a loose facehugger would crash the whole ship, either.

I guess I can't figure out Alien 3 could exist, therefore it doesn't.

The wizard gave the facehuggers superpowers. He's a wizard, he can do that.

 

[WedgeX]

Since the Queen's egg-sac was exploded by grenades before Bishop could return with the drop-ship, there's really no place for an egg to get on board the ship. So the whole of Alien 3 must be some sort of hypersleep-induced nightmare.

Huh. I buy this.

Gleefully awaiting Alienated starring Carrie Henn and co. awakening to an Earth surrounded by Queen-ravaged space stations. Only one aging couple and their precocious 40 yo adopted daughter can hear Earth scream.

 

[RadioHeadAche]

Apparently the way it gets explained in

Spoiler

Gearbox Presents Aliens Colonial Marines

is that a ship docked onto the Sulaco, had xenomorphs and eggs in it, and one planted the egg on there.

That makes sense kind of, but in no way could a viewer infer that just by going from watching Aliens to Alien 3. It is impossible.

But, that game is fan fiction.

 

[Sub_Level]

The nightmare theory actually makes sense because they talk about dreaming multiple times in Aliens. Well done.

Huh. I buy this.

Gleefully awaiting Alienated starring Carrie Henn and co. awakening to an Earth surrounded by Queen-ravaged space stations. Only one aging couple and their precocious 40 yo adopted daughter can hear Earth scream.

It is pretty sad that the only Earth infestation movies are the 2 AVP films.

Even if a wizard somehow does get an egg onto the ship, I can't figure out how the facehugger would get inside the cryo tubes since they couldn't get out of their own little plastic specimen tubes without help. And I certainly wasn't clear on how a loose facehugger would crash the whole ship, either.

I guess I can't figure out Alien 3 could exist, therefore it doesn't.

The destruction of the ship actually was explained in 3. Basically when it was cracking into the hard cry chamber glass, it started to bleed. The acid, like in the first movie, bled through the hull including electrical circuits which started a fire. This triggered the escape pods.

 

[rou021]

Neither of your theories make sense (but I appreciate the post). A warrior would have defended the queen during the battle or attacked them when they were in their undies getting ready to sleep. A Weyland Yutani employee having eggs would COMPLETELY remove the need for one of the big head honcho Company guys to come to the prison planet at the end of Alien 3. They wanted a specimen more than anything. If they already had one, they would have taken it to Earth or a space station to experiment with in a controlled environment, not infect someone and hope it would be a queen and hope the parasite would be able to break the cryo glass and hope that the possibility of a fire wouldn't kill the infected and hope the escape pod would land on an inhabited planet where nearby people could conveniently recover the infected body.

Of course they're both terrible. This plot hole is big enough to fly the Nostromo through it. Upon further reflection, I think the second one is the least shitty though. Hear me out.

Considering how quickly WY was able to get to Fury 161, they were probably following the Sulaco. At the very least, it was shown in the movie that they were monitoring any transmissions. The company could have made a pitstop on LV-426 (if we assume that is the only source for the eggs) to get some from the Derelict. WY wanted adult aliens (including a queen), so they'd still need to impregnate someone via the facehuggers. And if a facehugger can penetrate the helmet of a spacesuit, the cryotube isn't going to be much better. After planting them on the ship, they just had to wait it out. If things went awry, it could always be interpreted by the authorities that aliens just happened to sneak on board. How would the goverment know the truth anyway? Hell, WY themselves may have not even known about the queen or her role in the lifecycle. We really don't know what they knew about the alien.

Is it a great plan? Not particularly, but this really isn't that different from what WY tried in the first movie. The Nostromo was hardly a controlled environment. The fire on the Sulaco and EEV crash landing probably weren't planned. It would fit with the franchise theme of humans being unable to handle such a dangerous and unpredictable organism. Granted, this scenario is still stretching things. A lot.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Since both Ripley and the dog (or ox in the alternate cut) are impregnated in Alien 3, wouldn't there need to be two eggs on board?

 

[Sub_Level]

Since both Ripley and the dog (or ox in the alternate cut) are impregnated in Alien 3, wouldn't there need to be two eggs on board?

Yes.

 

[Intheflorsh]

But, that game is fan fiction.

Not according to 20th Century Fox.

 

[Asbel]

Ok, but why did Ripley waste her flame thrower on the egg sacks when she was going to nuke the place anyway?

 

[Sub_Level]

Ok, but why did Ripley waste her flame thrower on the egg sacks when she was going to nuke the place anyway?

Some of the eggs started to hatch and she felt in danger.

 

[RadioHeadAche]

Not according to 20th Century Fox.

Good thing I don't care what they think.

Ok, but why did Ripley waste her flame thrower on the egg sacks when she was going to nuke the place anyway?

Some of the eggs started to hatch and she felt in danger.

You don't want to try to escape with those horrible things jumping all over you.