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[Fixed2BeBroken]

It's not an RPG in any form but if you want to call it that go ahead I guess.

how exactly is it not an RPG in any form ?

some of you people are just hyperboling just to hyperbole

you're kidding yourself

It's an RPG with TPS combat.

It's a shooter.

So Resident evil 4 is a shooter in your mind too eh?

 

[The Artisan]

how exactly is it not an RPG?

how exactly is it not a shooter?

So Resident evil is a shooter in your mind too eh?

I don't play much resident evil but it involves a gun in your hand and shooting things so yes, it is a shooter. just because there are zombies there too doesn't mean it's not a shooter. the last of us is a shooter too. it is a zombie stealth 3rd person shooter.

 

[GSG Flash]

Uncharted 2 easily.

That said, ME1>UC2 IMO

 

[jg4xchamp]

Uncharted 2 had better pacing, more encounter variety, and in general more satisfying game mechanics. Mass Effect 2 had a better universe and cast of characters I guess, otherwise it's a supremely shallow game, and a lesser shooter when compared to Uncharted 2.

 

[Fancy Clown]

So Resident evil is a shooter in your mind too eh?

Resident Evil has been a shooter since 2005...

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Resident Evil has been a shooter since 2005...

I don't play much resident evil but it involves a gun in your hand and shooting things so yes, it is a shooter.

Meant to say RE4.
but


Ok, i guess anything that shoots is a shooter now. gotcha

Theres no such thing as Survival action

Action Rpg

open world, etc

Just one Genre when it involves a gun, that's shooter.

If it has a gun, its a shooter. Thats what it is.

Gta V is a shooter too

Heroes of the Storm is a shooter because they have characters with guns that shoot.

Mirror's edge is a shooter

etc

 

[OrlanisWorks]

Meant to say RE4.
but


Ok, i guess anything that shoots is a shooter now. gotcha

Theres no such thing as Survival action

Action Rpg

If it has a gun, its a shooter. Thats what it is.

Gta V is a shooter too

Heroes of the Storm is a shooter because they have characters with guns that shoot.

etc

Why do you think there can be only one label? It's like you're blind.

Started Uncharted 3. Shooting is shit probably because of the PS3 controller. It's as if I can only aim up, down, left and right, without any in between. Then again, I really enjoyed Wolfenstein on the PS3 so I do believe ND is somewhat responsible for the shit shooting..

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Why do you think there can be only one label? It's like you're blind.

has nothing to do with Blind. but when someone says shooter. We dont bust out the ME2 and RE4

we bust out the CODs and the GoWs

I mean, why act ignorant about that? its like people are trolling

 

[OrlanisWorks]

has nothing to do with Blind. but when someone says shooter. We dont bust out the ME2 and RE4

we bust out the CODs and the GoWs

I mean, why act ignorant about that? its like people are trolling

Sure, but that doesn't mean they aren't shooters. They are shooters amongst other classifications. COD is a FPS, whilst ME2 and RE4 are TPS. Of course ME2 and RE2 also fit into a sorta RPG or survival-horror, but that doesn't mean they ain't shooters. Yes?

 

[More_Badass]

has nothing to do with Blind. but when someone says shooter. We dont bust out the ME2 and RE4

we bust out the CODs and the GoWs

I mean, why act ignorant about that? its like people are trolling

From one of Bio-Ware co-founders regarding ME2:

Speaking at GDC yesterday, BioWare's Ray Muzyka explains that, of the "bigger buckets of things we're working on" for Mass Effect 2, perhaps the most important is the way the game feels in terms of its shooting and its action.
"One of them is the intensity of the action, amping that up so people will see this as a shooter RPG", he says. "It's going to feel like shooter fans are going to have a great experience".

From ME2's lead gameplay designer

Norman explains, “We decided to build shooter combat first – not in priority, but in order – it needed a lot of improvement and BioWare aren’t experts on shooter combat. By focusing on it first we figured we’d remove a lot of uncertainty about other features. We wanted more satisfying combat and a big part of that is making weapons more accurate and powerful at level one – basically saying ‘let’s take the RPG out of the shooter.’ We look like a shooter so that aspect of our combat should play like a shooter.”

From ME2's project director

“It’s still a third-person shooter with the ability to give orders to two squad mates. What’s really different is the overall feel and quality of combat...

 

[IvorB]

how exactly is it not an RPG in any form ?

some of you people are just hyperboling just to hyperbole?

It's just a story-driven, cinematic TPS. It's got no meaningful character development or progression which are the hallmarks of an RPG. It's got no RPG gameplay systems to speak of. Maybe you could say it has light RPG elements but that's about it.

 

[Nocturn]

As much as I loved Chloe's ass I liked Miranda's more ol.

Both games are amazing imo but Mass Effect 2 will always be more memorable to me.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

From one of Bio-Ware co-founders regarding ME2:


From ME2's lead gameplay designer

whelp, cant argue with that.

I still don't think of ME2 when the word shooter gets brought up. I think it's more than that.

and the complete package makes it more than just a shooter.

It's just a story-driven, cinematic TPS. It's got no meaningful character development or progression which are the hallmarks of an RPG. It's got no RPG gameplay systems to speak of. Maybe you could say it has light RPG elements but that's about it.

So it has no RPG elements but it has light RPG elements. Right...Basically, you're wrong. it does have RPG elements as you just said so yourself

 

[The Artisan]

whelp, cant argue with that.

I still don't think of ME2 when the word shooter gets brought up. I think it's more than that.

and the complete package makes it more than just a shooter.

no one ever said it isn't anything more than a shooter. but saying it is not a shooter is incorrect.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

no one ever said it isn't anything more than a shooter. but saying it is not a shooter is incorrect.

people did insinuate that it was just a shooter. thats the where all of this started. but ok and your statement is just really arguing semantics when you know what I and others mean.

smh

 

[OrlanisWorks]

whelp, cant argue with that.

I still don't think of ME2 when the word shooter gets brought up. I think it's more than that.

and the complete package makes it more than just a shooter.

e: I don't know about others, but I know I never said or insinuate it was "just" a shooter. It's more than a shooter, but so are many FPS and TPS games.

 

[pants]

Uncharted 2

 

[The Artisan]

people did insinuate that it was just a shooter. thats the where all of this started. but ok and your statement is just really arguing semantics when you know what I and others mean.

smh

no? nobody ever insinuated that the game was nothing more than a shooter. and this isn't even a semantical argument. like I said, if you handed Me2 to your friend and said, 'play this' and he asks you if its a shooting game and you said 'no', and he plays it, half an hour later he's gonna say he knows the game better than you do.

 

[IvorB]

whelp, cant argue with that.

I still don't think of ME2 when the word shooter gets brought up. I think it's more than that.

and the complete package makes it more than just a shooter.



So it has no RPG elements but it has light RPG elements. Right...Basically, you're wrong. it does have RPG elements as you just said so yourself

I said "maybe you could say" that. At a stretch you could argue that. I wouldn't consider four skills you can upgrade to be an RPG gameplay system. But you could say it has elements of that system. There is a difference between a half and a whole. But that still doesn't make it any kind of RPG, especially in this day-and-age where pretty much every game features light RPG elements.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

no? nobody ever insinuated that the game was nothing more than a shooter. and this isn't even a semantical argument. like I said, if you handed Me2 to your friend and said, 'play this' and he asks you if its a shooting game and you said 'no', and he plays it, half an hour later he's gonna say he knows the game better than you.

I wouldn't say "no it's not a shooting game"

I would say, "it's an action RPG"

again, you're arguing semantics. you know what I mean.

I said "maybe you could say" that. At a stretch you could argue that. I wouldn't consider four skills you can upgrade to be an RPG gameplay system. But you could say it has elements of that system. There is a difference between a half and whole. But that still doesn't make it any kind of RPG, especially in this day-and-age where pretty much every game features light RPG elements.

I didn't say it was a traditional RPG either. Me2 has enough Light rpg elements to have enough rpg elements to be more than none as you first stated.

 

[OrlanisWorks]

I wouldn't say "no it's not a shooting game"

I would say, "it's an action RPG"

again, you're arguing semantics. you know what I mean.


I didn't say it was a traditional RPG either. Me2 has enough Light rpg elements to have enough rpg elements to be more than none as you first stated.

You wouldn't be wrong saying it's an action RPG, nor would you be wrong if you said it was a shooter.

 

[IvorB]

I wouldn't say "no it's not a shooting game"

I would say, "it's an action RPG"

again, you're arguing semantics. you know what I mean.



I didn't say it was a traditional RPG either. Me2 has enough Light rpg elements to have enough rpg elements to be more than none as you first stated.

Okay, it's a story-driven, cinematic TPS with light RPG elements. Does that work for you?

 

[Riposte]

This is like comparing a Big Mac with a good steak.

I feel like this post could have gone either way lol.


I'm pretty sure I like Mass Effect 2 more of these two games. It really nailed the atmosphere and I think of all the BioWare games, this one was structured strongest to their strengths. Uncharted 2 is a pretty cool game though, I just felt really apathetic towards a lot of it.

 

[The Artisan]

I wouldn't say "no it's not a shooting game"

Yes you did.

calling ME2 a shooter is like calling re4 a shooter. just cause you shoot in it doesnt make it a shooter. does this seriously need to be argued?

Me2 is a shooter.

No, it's not.

It's not a shooter

that's 3 times in this thread you denied that this game was a shooter.

again, you're arguing semantics. you know what I mean.

No, I'm not arguing semantics. Playing a game that is a "shooter" means you controlling a character with a gun in your hand, shooting at things. If you're still disputing that, then we'd be arguing semantics.

But yes, I know what you mean, but it doesn't mean you're right. When people say shooters they think of halo and cod. Hell, when you say "video game" they think of halo and cod. But like OrlanisWorks said, that doesn't mean Me2 is not a shooter

Spoiler

just because it is not JUST a shooter

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Yes you did.

actually, no I didn't.

you brought up a hypothetical situation where I would be conversing with my friend. In that hypothetical situation, I would say "it's an action RPG"

in this thread, I said it wasn't a shooter in the sense, that I don't classify it in "shooter" category.

I classify it in "Action RPG" category.

This thread, and your hypothetical situation are two very different situations.

and, for the sake of the thread, you admitted that you know what I mean and the arguing is just to argue at this point because of that.

 

[Pestilence11]

lol a poll with bickering over opinions on the side would work better.

 

[The Artisan]

actually, no I didn't.

you brought up a hypothetical situation where I would be conversing with my friend. In that hypothetical situation, I would say "it's an action RPG"

in this thread, I said it wasn't a shooter in the sense, that I don't classify it in "shooter" category.

I classify it in "Action RPG" category.

This thread, and your hypothetical situation are two very different situations.

what difference should it make who you're talking to about the game? The fact of the matter is you had trouble accepting the fact that Me2 is a third person shooter, as well as an RPG.

lol a poll with bickering over opinions on the side would work better.

I didn't have the option to add a poll.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

what difference should it make who you're talking to about the game? The fact of the matter is you had trouble accepting the fact that Me2 is a third person shooter, as well as an RPG.

no, I had a issue with it just being considered a shooter, when it is more than that, as I stated.

seriously, this is a pointless argument at this point and your arguing just to argue as you already stated you know what i mean. done with this.

 

[The Artisan]

no, I had a issue with it just being considered a shooter, when it is more than that, as I stated.

but no one ever said it was just a shooter... there is a lot of shooting involved in the game, so people in this thread were comparing the shooting combat/mechanics/gameplay in general, with that of what you had in Uc2

If you felt like there was an issue with people calling the game just a shooter then that's what you should've said. Instead of saying it is not a shooter period, because that's dead wrong.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

but no one ever said it was just a shooter... there is a lot of shooting involved in the game, so people in this thread were comparing the shooting combat/mechanics/gameplay in general, with that of what you had in Uc2

If you felt like there was an issue with people calling the game just a shooter then that's what you should've said. Instead of saying it is not a shooter period, because that's dead wrong.

your avatar suits you as it seems like you are him. I'd hate to have normal conversations with you.

 

[The Artisan]

your avatar suits you

gee, thanks. I get that a lot.

EDIT: you edited your post. great, nice that you got to know me so well in this 1 conversation.

Spoiler

/s

 

[OrlanisWorks]

no, I had a issue with it just being considered a shooter, when it is more than that, as I stated.

seriously, this is a pointless argument at this point and your arguing just to argue as you already stated you know what i mean. done with this.

your avatar suits you as it seems like you are him. I'd hate to have normal conversations with you.

Just be mature and stop.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Just be mature and stop.

I did stop talking about it though, your boy keeps responding. But sure.


anyways, it's Clear ME2 Won this one.

 

[The Artisan]

A poll has been attached, everybody please cast your votes. Although since this thread has run its course, I doubt will get a high vote density.

If I knew I needed permission from a moderator, I would've asked for a poll way back when I made the thread. I didn't even know polls existed here till I saw the sub zero vs scorpion thread.

 

[Soyongdori]

A poll doesn't really mean much at this point when there is 11 pages of replies.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Those were my two favorite games last generation. I rate them about equal, but extremely slight nod to Uncharted 2.

 

[Trouble]

This is like comparing a Big Mac with a good steak.

Yeah...the Big Mac is good and tasty....but it's nothing compared to a good steak with fried chips.

Bic Mac is Uncharted 2. The Steak is Mass Effect 2. Both are good and both have 10/10 taste in your mouth....but if somebody asks you for the quality you have no doubt.


pd: NOW I'M FUCKING HUNGRY DAMMIT.

It's more like comparing a really well made burger (UC2) with a mediocre cut of steak (ME2).

Both are good, but the steak leaves you a little sad because it didn't live up to its full potential.

 

[MagnesD3]

I cant vote on the poll for some reason. If I could vote it would be for Mass effect 2

 

[dlauv]

I cant vote on the poll for some reason. If I could vote it would be for Mass effect 2

We is juniors.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

That 28 hours of ME2 over a weekend.. will stick with me for a while.

The game is flawed, definitely, but its qualities made it a great ride.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Technically UC2 "is not a shooter."

I think ME2 is just as much a "sorta, kinda shooter" as UC2. They're both got one foot in the shooter genre, and the other in the RPG/Adventure genre.

 

[GarciaHotspur]

More people have played to Mass Effect 2 than to U2 so the result of the poll is already known...

 

[Markitron]

Both 10/10's, so hard to compare as they are different genre's. I'd give the edge to Uncharted though.

Also: Fuck Man Utd

 

[Wolfgang Jr]

Well Uncharted 2 is one of the best games of all time and Mass Effect 2 is the 2nd worst of 3. You answer yourself.

 

[ZeroRay]

Mediocre TPS latched with RPG mechanics with daddy issue characters vs. Best TPS level design wise last gen. Difficult choice brehs.

 

[Dabanton]

Shouldn't even be a contest. Uncharted 2 poops on ME2 from a great height.

 

[he who dwells]

Uncharted 2 hands down
ME2 is overrated IMO, It's a step back form ME1.

 

[thebloo]

We is juniors.

I'm a junior too and I just voted.

Edit: well, crap, I'm not a junior anymore I guess.

 

[JawzPause]

It was close but I had to go for united

 

[breezer79]

ME2 easily. The story and characters were excellent.