The Order: 1886 Gets New Direct-Feed Screenshots From Obama
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BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
Because we get it, you have legitimate criticisms. We simply don't consider them flaws. It doesn't break either game for us. Why even bother pointing it out if the core experience is what matters? Yeah DRIVECLUB has harsh penalties, aggressive AI, net code issues, who gives a rats ass? Score whores. That's who.
The only reason people get in a fuss bringing up the negatives about DRIVECLUB is to justify and validate the shit reviews it got. And that comes across as aggressive and borderline fanboyish.
It really isn't.
StreetDisciple
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Thanks for the run-down. The ad just seems like your typical game advert. There is nothing memorable about it at all. I already preordered and I can't wait to play it though.
Crimson_Gold
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You've done right my friend. Day 1 stache gang for life
DarkLordMalik
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Whoa! This thread exploded overnight 
XxRampage07xX
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I don't know and I haven't seen anyone doing that either
But to me, that spike doesn't look long enough to actually pierce and stick enemy's skin. Well, looks like we need some confirmations from those who have played this game.
I don't think folks are trying to belittle those that have legitimate concerns for The Order. I believe folks are critical of some of the blatant misinformation out there, about The Order. I read folks saying it graphically downgraded, and it has only a hour and a half worth of gameplay...that's pretty absurd. Having concerns about an unknown element is one thing, but to completely make something up will and should be challenged. Why? Because that's what Obama would do.
OneEyeTwoHead
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What the hell is blacksight?
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
LookAtMeGo
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The Orders "bullet time"
People like different things. If everyone accepted this, there'd really be no issues ever. But that's not fun. People have strong association with brands. In this case, you can use games, although you could extend that to manufacturers such as Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. They're not always linked. It's similar to personal and emotional investment in other things, such as sports or movies. A lot of folks tend to drive some sense of self-worth from this association. It's part of marketing. Think of it like brand religion. A lot of companies take that kind of stance, and a lot of marketing tries to cultivate it. It's not an attack on a game, it's an attack on me, my tastes, my thoughts, and my opinions.
I've done this on a few occasions on GAF, and it's always led me to amusing results. The fanatics are too obvious, so if I catch a post that seems reasonable but I can sense something beyond it, which either implies some feelings of displeasure, it's easy to branch off that, and within a couple of minutes find several posts where the same poster is more open in various ways. It makes the initial post present itself in a different light. The easiest way to catch it is when someone displays issues with another poster, game comparisons, sales comparisons etc. When there's a point of contention that goes beyond the feelings of indifference pretty much, and feels slightly illogical in the context of the conversation.
Basically, everyone is needlessly aggressive. It's just games.
Stache growing commenced. Full stache will be complete in... 2 hours?
OneEyeTwoHead
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Fuck I didn't know that. Been living under a rock.
It's a discussion board, deal with it. People like to analyze things and talk about what could be improved, what could've been done better. This is why I don't like simple scales of yes or no. I actually read a review and decide if it sounds like it would be worth the money. More often than not I decide for myself, but I'd rather not waste time on a game that might have certain things I know I don't like. It's not about being a score whore, you're being too cut and dry and defensive over your game.
Love Deterrence
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What the fuck happened here?
Well..that would depend on if your employer won't just drop your screenshots altogether.
That's one snazzy tie.
I've been belittled and called a concern troll on more than one occasion upon sharing my concern for the game. I get that people want to cover their ears and pretend it's perfect, but for the people who care about breaking games down beyond a simple yes or no, we have a right to do that. I also hear the same excuses for why a game reviews poorly- how the journalist is biased, they're terrible writers, they're hypocritical, the media hates this game, xbots want it to die, etc. But I simply don't believe that. I believe those people exist, but FAR too many people are lumped in with that group unfairly.
I think it begun with Cosmic's quote about mediocre games...
which lead to these responses:
Obama's name is in the freaking title, what more do you need
Stache growing commenced. Full stache will be complete in... 2 hours?
get them staches ready boys
ignore my bad facial hair
that's...racist?
I love DriveClub and I'm curious to hear your criticisms. Just an FYI, your criticisms may have no bearing on me however. I know a lot of people are frustrated with AI and/or penalties or collisions online but none of that stuff bothers me because I win 95% of the time and enjoy the experience. Hyperbole? Nah, just some stuff you say are legitimate criticisms may only be criticisms to you and farts in the wind to me.
CassidyIzABeast
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Cops have used it for years.
Nightengale
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This.
The Order, even based off the positive impressions, clearly has flaws that while differs from person to person, can be rooted back to the game's overall design sensibilities as a linear shooter that's focused on bringing you on a character journey with a very defined pacing. Within that framework, there's plenty of flaws that can be called out.
But that had nothing to do with the length of the game.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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I'm with you man I know where you coming from.
OneEyeTwoHead
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I need to be spoonfed info. I'm just an infant.
Basically warring opinions, right? You feel strongly about your opinions, and others feel strongly about theirs. I can understand your frustration, but this happens in discussion threads. What I do is just present my point of view to the best of my ability, then let the chips fall where they may. At the end of the day, we either like it or not, then we're on to the next game. 2015 has so many great ones coming out, I'm having a blast talking about them.
lovely ladies
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Someone's streaming the game on twitch PS4. It's in Russian though for anyone interested.
Surprised no one's shut it down. Well after this post maybe haha.
Surprised no one's shut it down. Well after this post maybe haha.
And that's FINE... I'll say this again it's... a... DISCUSSION board. The idea that critics wanted to hate Driveclub for whatever reason is absolutely ABSURD. When the game came out with a lack of online it was somewhat weak in terms of content. The "campaign" if you will was fine, but I had pretty much wrapped the entire thing up in a night or two. I loved the driving model, however as pointed out by people over and over, the penalty system didn't make sense a lot of the time, and often you could get by crashing your way through races. I thought DC for me when all was said and done was a solid 8.5 with potential to be even better. That being said I would prefer a next gen motorstorm.
Not being a dick, genuinely wondering are you being serious? Your first post was so abrupt I thought you were being sarcastic lol.
It will be down in 5 minutes (or less). It's the same Germany dude from yesterday. Twitch is quick to shut down all pre launch game vids.
Link? lol
Basically warring opinions, right? You feel strongly about your opinions, and others feel strongly about theirs. I can understand your frustration, but this happens in discussion threads. What I do is just present my point of view to the best of my ability, then let the chips fall where they may. At the end of the day, we either like it or not, then we're on to the next game. 2015 has so many great ones coming out, I'm having a blast talking about them.
No it's not warring opinions, it's the exact opposite. people are allowed opinions, that is absolutely fine by me. The point I'm making, is that people in review threads will pull every excuse in the book why critics are wrong and bad at their jobs, and why anybody who criticizes the game is trying to tear it down or be a concern troll. It's nonsense and it's paranoia stemming from ridiculous console wars. Again I accept those people exist, but more often than not people pull this card on anybody who is negative about the game they love.
I agree but I have also aired my personal criticisms in the DriveClub OT and have never been chased out of the thread. But regardless, back on topic.
I meant to post that in the first place, I don't want to make this a DC thread. Maybe you didn't get chased out, it happens sometimes. I've been chased out of there, and I've called out others for chasing out people for having an opinion.
lovely ladies
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Oops sorry guys, should have been more specific. I meant the Live from Playstation app from the PS4 itself, name of the stream is the name of the game, you can't really miss it.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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I am serious I think the same way
Freeman
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Did you play the game already? (honest question)
If not, I just can't understand how someone could point to things as flaws without even having played the game. If I didn't play a game the best I'll say is that it doesn't look like something I would like.
Primethius
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I don't think people say critics are out to get the game as opposed to that most critics just aren't that good.
I'm in the line of thinking myself. Partially because I have no preference for listening to the reviews of people who can't judge games at a complex level and resort instead to judging games at a very simple kind of level. E.g. The game works, has x content, story is decent, etc etc
I'm in the line of thinking myself. Partially because I have no preference for listening to the reviews of people who can't judge games at a complex level and resort instead to judging games at a very simple kind of level. E.g. The game works, has x content, story is decent, etc etc
It's still warring opinions because it's both sides are trying to discredit the other person's opinion by discrediting the person. Just like you pointed out, they're calling you a "concern troll", and you calling them a "console warrior." She how that works? Yes, it's annoying when you know you're just giving your honest opinion on the matter, but at the same time, how would a stranger know your intent? A lot of the time, they don't, so they just lump you into a bracket that best supports their point of view....and vice versa.
I don't think that's fair. Taking it to an extreme, if a game is shown in previews to require a 50-button sequence just to reload, I can safely say without playing that it is not something I would be interested in. Obviously I could be wrong and it works well for that game, but I don't think it's necessarily "wrong" in the sense that at face value, it sounds like a stupid idea.
Nightengale
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I watched some footage. And there's always aspects of any game that can be criticised without actually holding the controller.
I'm on mobile, so I can't show you my old post, but even based off official footage, I've had criticism of how button prompts are implemented in some story cutscenes.
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about the gunplay, but the moment to moment pacing from one gameplay moment to the next.
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