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[rofif]

I didn’t rush through the game or anything. Even went back to clean up trophies. Maybe I am better at shooters and died less than you, idk. I can’t imagine what people are doing in the game that makes them take 9-10 hours. Must be desperately searching for collectibles and side content that aren’t there.

I died only few times.
Anyway. I didn't want to argue with you. Play however you want!

 

[Shifty1897]

But Balatro was not made with love.

It seems they did it to make money.

But I like you Shifty1897 .

Happy 2025!!!

Thanks! We can disagree on Balatro but still respect each other.

Happy New Year!

 

[ReBurn]

shadps4 can suck my dick. I don't care.
People should've been there, buying the game day1. not pirating it on shadps4 20 years later.

I bought it. I thought it was just ok.

 

[M.W.]

Order: Chromatic Aberration

Solid game

 

[WoJ]

No. Nonsense. If it was "great" and it "deserved a sequel" then it would have gotten better reviews and some people would have bought it and it would have got that sequel.

Sure, Jan.

And Dragon Age Veilguard is a return to form for Bioware. Concord was also a 7, like IGN said.

I realize the Order was released 10 years ago and gaming journalism has gone down quite a bit in the last decade, but it's not like it was knocking it out of the park in 2015. The Order had a vendetta against it due to its length before it was released and the hype about that basically sunk the game before it launched.

In fairness I didn't play it until 2022, but I found it to be a fun experience. I very rarely read reviews of games and if the story, lore, atmosphere, and gsmeplay are all decent or better I consider it a good game. The Order checked all those boxes for me. Game was great and deserved a sequel despite what pretentious gamers on video game message boards say. In the PS2, and probably the PS3 era, it would have got one.

The story was entertaining, and gameplay was good enough. It ended on a cliffhanger that if iterated on could turned into a viable franchise. There was a lot more story to tell. And that's the real problem. Games released in the last ten years have to sell like 5 million or more copies or else they're DOA. Instead of studios starting with a smaller scale and then building and iterating with a sequel things go out to die....unless it's annual slop like AC or CoD. I know those franchises have good games in them, but at this point they're no different than annual sports titles.

 

[flying_sq]

Really enjoyed it when it came out. Wouldn't mind a release on PC

 

[TropicanaTwista]

I really liked the order. I don't care what other people like or dislike, just kind of feel there is some revisionist history when it comes to this game. RaD were VERY open about what this game was and the lack of gameplay before it ever came out. Then people got all pissed because it wasn't what they wanted personally.

The game still has one of the coolest settings I've ever played in a video game. I don't remember the story all that well, as it's been about a decade since I last played it, but I'm remember being engaged with it throughout. Shame it didn't work out, I would have been day 1 for a sequel.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Obligatory review that should be in every Order 1886 thread. Does a great job explaining why the game sucks, especially the laughably bad writing and story.

 

[Judge Death]

Sure, Jan.

And Dragon Age Veilguard is a return to form for Bioware. Concord was also a 7, like IGN said.

I realize the Order was released 10 years ago and gaming journalism has gone down quite a bit in the last decade, but it's not like it was knocking it out of the park in 2015. The Order had a vendetta against it due to its length before it was released and the hype about that basically sunk the game before it launched.

In fairness I didn't play it until 2022, but I found it to be a fun experience. I very rarely read reviews of games and if the story, lore, atmosphere, and gsmeplay are all decent or better I consider it a good game. The Order checked all those boxes for me. Game was great and deserved a sequel despite what pretentious gamers on video game message boards say. In the PS2, and probably the PS3 era, it would have got one.

The story was entertaining, and gameplay was good enough. It ended on a cliffhanger that if iterated on could turned into a viable franchise. There was a lot more story to tell. And that's the real problem. Games released in the last ten years have to sell like 5 million or more copies or else they're DOA. Instead of studios starting with a smaller scale and then building and iterating with a sequel things go out to die....unless it's annual slop like AC or CoD. I know those franchises have good games in them, but at this point they're no different than annual sports titles.

You've typed out a lot there to essentially just say "I like the game and I don't care what anyone else says!", regardless of whether the criticism is justified or not. Or is it just that you think all criticism of this game is unjustified? I certainly hope you've never criticised a game on here previously then. I hope you've never pointed to positive reviews of a game you like in order to validate your opinion.

And don't call me Jan.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Am I supposed to believe you've played any significant amount of Balatro?

Is the game quality?

 

[Sooner]

Is the game quality?

Duh

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Wrong

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Obligatory review that should be in every Order 1886 thread. Does a great job explaining why the game sucks, especially the laughably bad writing and story.

Man, You're really going out your own way as to prove...something.

Meanwhile, you gave Hellblade 2 a...9/10

In no particular order

Diablo IV (8/10)
Space Marine 2 (9/10)
Rise of Ronin (7/10)
Balatro (11/10)
Hunt 1896 (8/10)
CoD MW3 (4/10)
Hellblade 2 (9/10)
Age of Mythology (8/10)
Brotato (10/10)
Helldivers 2 (6/10)

No one should take your opinion seriously friend

 

[rofif]

Obligatory review that should be in every Order 1886 thread. Does a great job explaining why the game sucks, especially the laughably bad writing and story.

These fuckers are why I never played it in the first place.
The game is absolutely not "oh he went there, dracula was there and game ends".
They are fucking idiots. I wish I never listened to them
edit (btw, I love rich but their games take were awful)

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

For a PS4 title, it looks insane.

Would love a PC port but I don't think it'll ever happen. Ditto Killzone 2/3.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Man, You're really going out your own way as to prove...something.

Meanwhile, you gave Hellblade 2 a...9/10


No one should take your opinion seriously friend

Ah, another receipt clout clown

Hellblade 2 has a story a million times better than Order 1886. Nothing more really needs to be said.

These fuckers are why I never played it in the first place.
The game is absolutely not "oh he went there, dracula was there and game ends".
They are fucking idiots. I wish I never listened to them
edit (btw, I love rich but their games take were awful)

Everything they said about the game is correct, from the generic characters to the tired gameplay to the horrible writing. Also they are right about the ending. It was pretentious slop designed to push a sequel.

 

[Big Baller]

Obligatory review that should be in every Order 1886 thread. Does a great job explaining why the game sucks, especially the laughably bad writing and story.

I never heard of these douchebags. The Order is a classic!

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Ah, another receipt clout clown

Hellblade 2 has a story a million times better than Order 1886. Nothing more really needs to be said.



Everything they said about the game is correct, from the generic characters to the tired gameplay to the horrible writing. Also they are right about the ending. It was pretentious slop designed to push a sequel.

"Receipt clout clown"

I only played once but I don’t think you can even skip cutscenes. Never use photo mode, either. I don’t think it’s possible to “blaze through” a game with four or five hours of content. Plus there’s so little agency in the game for the player.

Apparently, Hellblade 2 has more agency than The order, amirite?

Listen guy, I get it, you're venting some frustration for whatever reason, the "I hate one game but I loved the other therefore you're wrong" does not a good retort make.

Do you even read what you write ? And I'm the clown ? Shit man, some self awareness would actually do you some good

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

"Receipt clout clown"


Apparently, Hellblade 2 has more agency than The order, amirite?

Listen guy, I get it, you're venting some frustration for whatever reason, the "I hate one game but I loved the other therefore you're wrong" does not a good retort make.

Do you even read what you write ? And I'm the clown ? Shit man, some self awareness would actually do you some good

Have you played both games? I have the Order plat and 1000/1000 GS in Hellblade 2. Both of these games push graphics at the cost of freedom and are designed to be more of an experience that you play how the developer wants, and yet there is still way more agency in Hellblade.

All of the boring gameplay and generic level design in Order would have been a lot easier to swallow if the story was good, like Hellblade. I don’t know how I can break it down any simpler for you. You’re welcome to disagree, I don’t care.

 

[AutumnLeaves]

I mean, I like The Order's story and graphics but let's not kid ourselves, one guy learning to make games made Balatro and it has better gameplay than The Order. At no point playing Balatro was I forced to pick up a wooden cup and spin it around in my hand for an uncomfortable about of time until a cutscene triggered.

What an asinine take. At this point, I'm not surprised.

 

[thatJohann]

Yeah still a stunning looking game.

 

[Shifty1897]

What an asinine take. At this point, I'm not surprised.

If you've played both games, please elaborate with your constructive criticism. I don't bite

 

[coffinbirth]

No, I am suggesting that it should be nominated for the effort that the developers put in. And with The Order, good efforts were made...

But of course, as the video game press always comes to ruin things, and they didn't show that before, now they are meaner.

I mean, Bloodborne came out the same year(less than a month apart)...and was most definitely nominated for GOTY.

Blame Bloodborne

 

[coffinbirth]

shadps4 can suck my dick. I don't care.
People should've been there, buying the game day1. not pirating it on shadps4 20 years later.

It sold over 2 million copies, not exactly terrible considering it came out within a month of fucking Bloodborne. Like 5,000 people will ever play this game on ShadPS4, get real.

I bought it day one, still in my backlog...same as Bloodborne

 

[seb85]

 

[GymWolf]

Out of the 3 most famous playable tech demos (hb2, ryse, order) this was the less dogshit one, but still pretty shitty.

When you have plotholes and meh writing even in a 4 hours game with barely any gameplay, you know you fucked up.

 

[Zathalus]

Visuals were outstanding but the gameplay was extremely meh, the story was even more meh, and the game was a total length of 5 hours. But the length could be considered a positive due to how boring the game was.

 

[Dr.brain64]

I loved this game. I might replay it this year.

 

[The Janitor]

If only Sony would remaster older games like this instead of remastering Horizon 100 times...

 

[Fahdis]

Good efforts were made on the graphics. There was no effort made on the gameplay or story. Gameplay is the most generic third person shooter combat mixed with cut scenes and cinematic walking. Story is pretentious poorly written slop that they couldn’t even bother to finish before the end.

I’m floored it took OP over 9 hours to finish, I got the plat in a smidge over 4 hours.

Game is like Driveclub, immensely overrated because of graphics.

Aaahh, people who have no taste. Who absolutely rungun the game and don't enjoy it for the sake of story or atmosphere. Also, anyone hating on DC is just ironically stupid at this point.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I mean, Bloodborne came out the same year(less than a month apart)...and was most definitely nominated for GOTY.

Blame Bloodborne

You are right, I congratulate you on 2025

 

[WoJ]

You've typed out a lot there to essentially just say "I like the game and I don't care what anyone else says!", regardless of whether the criticism is justified or not. Or is it just that you think all criticism of this game is unjustified? I certainly hope you've never criticised a game on here previously then. I hope you've never pointed to positive reviews of a game you like in order to validate your opinion.

And don't call me Jan.

My larger point is that I think much of the games criticism is not justified. Responses by many people in this thread, and most threads that pop up about The Order, tend to reflect this these days.

As gamers we collectively tend to crap on games excessively when they come out to the point where many games that were viewed as trash end up being liked or considered hidden gems a few years after release with many wishing for sequels. Reviewers do little to help this.

My other point is that despite its flaws, a game like the Order had potential to be a successful franchise. I acknowledge that the reception to The Order was was tepid at time of release. But in the modern gaming landscape, developers don't get a chance to build off titles which are considered mediocre because of costs and insane sales expectations. It wasn't like that in previous generations and we got to see titles improved upon in sequels which led to more diverse games and in my opinion just a more fun gaming environment. In my opinion The Order is one of those games that is a casualty of the pitfalls of modern development and insane sales expectations.

 

[cyberheater]

Still a very beautiful looking game. I wonder if I can still play it on my PS5.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Out of the 3 most famous playable tech demos (hb2, ryse, order) this was the less dogshit one, but still pretty shitty.

When you have plotholes and meh writing even in a 4 hours game with barely any gameplay, you know you fucked up.

They didn't "fuck it up" due to the plotholes or even the "terrible writing" (c'mon man), they fucked up 'cause they tried to sell a 6-7 hours game with ZERO replay value at full MSRP, that's it, that's the reason why the game bombed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this game only needed a couple more things to succeed :
- 4 to 5 extra gameplay hours
- a co-op mode
- a horde mode
- less QTE bullshit
- some type of replayability in the form of higher difficulties, a few unlockables...something, anything compared to what we got.

I really don't get the bitching about the story/plotholes/what have you, I don't see people complaining about gears of war's story being bullshit (it is), difference being, the gears quadrology (at that point) had actual, meaningful gameplay compared to something like the order.

When you try to sell/pass an almost interactive movie as a videogame... That's when you fucked it up, and you know what ?
It's a freaking shame since the game had some really good foundations for an eventual sequel (ie, aiming feeling/sensitivity, good shooting feeling, nice, "oomphy" weapons, and some motherfucking cool setpieces).

I get it, If I had splurged €60 for this I'd probably belong in the camp that hates it, thing is, I rented it, played it slowly as to savour it and took it back - for the seven to eight hours that it lasted, and for that €10 that I spent I enjoyed it very much.

To go on raving though that the game is "shit", is "badly written" or that it doesn't have any player agency but, at the same time you give an interactive, press forward for awesome® moviegame like Hellblade 2 a 9/10 like our resident hateful shitposter bumbleguy tuna or whatever is just a friggin' joke.

PS: I also liked Ryse and think that it's yet another misunderstood game that had some good potential for an improved sequel, shame then that it also bombed...

 

[NahaNago]

I was really hoping for a sequel to this game. My biggest issue besides it being short was those annoying werewolf fights.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Aaahh, people who have no taste. Who absolutely rungun the game and don't enjoy it for the sake of story or atmosphere. Also, anyone hating on DC is just ironically stupid at this point.

There’s nothing to explore or savor in the game, it’s almost entirely on rails. Even the collectibles that are there are just on the path the devs choose for you, pretty much the only way to miss them is to wander too far forward that you trigger the next cut scene and leave the area. You’re trying to defend a game with four hours of content

Perfect comparison is RE4. I know it can be “rungun” and completed in a few hours. It took me over ten to finish my first run the other day, probably closer to fifteen. Now THAT is a game where you can explore, have optional side quests and puzzles, and enjoy the atmosphere. Order 1886 is not that game.

DC is an average at best racer that got overrated because it looks really good in small gifs. It’s dead for a reason

 

[GymWolf]

They didn't "fuck it up" due to the plotholes or even the "terrible writing" (c'mon man), they fucked up 'cause they tried to sell a 6-7 hours game with ZERO replay value at full MSRP, that's it, that's the reason why the game bombed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this game only needed a couple more things to succeed :
- 4 to 5 extra gameplay hours
- a co-op mode
- a horde mode
- less QTE bullshit
- some type of replayability in the form of higher difficulties, a few unlockables...something, anything compared to what we got.

I really don't get the bitching about the story/plotholes/what have you, I don't see people complaining about gears of war's story being bullshit (it is), difference being, the gears quadrology (at that point) had actual, meaningful gameplay compared to something like the order.

When you try to sell/pass an almost interactive movie as a videogame... That's when you fucked it up, and you know what ?
It's a freaking shame since the game had some really good foundations for an eventual sequel (ie, aiming feeling/sensitivity, good shooting feeling, nice, "oomphy" weapons, and some motherfucking cool setpieces).

I get it, If I had splurged €60 for this I'd probably belong in the camp that hates it, thing is, I rented it, played it slowly as to savour it and took it back - for the seven to eight hours that it lasted, and for that €10 that I spent I enjoyed it very much.

To go on raving though that the game is "shit", is "badly written" or that it doesn't have any player agency but, at the same time you give an interactive, press forward for awesome® moviegame like Hellblade 2 a 9/10 like our resident hateful shitposter bumbleguy tuna or whatever is just a friggin' joke.

PS: I also liked Ryse and think that it's yet another misunderstood game that had some good potential for an improved sequel, shame then that it also bombed...

I mean of course they fucked up in multiple aspects and not only in the writing.

Not sure to who you are talking to in the balded part, numerous times i called hb2 a piece of turd with incredible graphic, i consider all these glorified tech demos bad games.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I mean of course they fucked up in multiple aspects and not only in the writing.

Not sure to who you are talking to in the balded part, numerous times i called hb2 a piece of turd with incredible graphic, i consider all these glorified tech demos bad games.

Heh, I was referencing some other..."gentlemen" that would have you believe what I mentioned (the order = God awful shite, HB2 = God's gift to gamers)

 

[GymWolf]

Heh, I was referencing some other..."gentlemen" that would have you believe what I mentioned (the order = God awful shite, HB2 = God's gift to gamers)

He probably missed a second run to really understand the game...

 

[Giallo Corsa]

He probably missed a second run to really understand the game...

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

I mean of course they fucked up in multiple aspects and not only in the writing.

Not sure to who you are talking to in the balded part, numerous times i called hb2 a piece of turd with incredible graphic, i consider all these glorified tech demos bad games.

He’s referring to me. HB2 and The Order aren’t games you play, they are experiences curated for you by the dev. I thought The Order sucked for numerous reasons, but if it had a good narrative, I could have forgiven it. I thought HB2 had a great narrative, so I consider it a better game, and he is butt hurt about that.

 

[Unknown?]

He’s referring to me. HB2 and The Order aren’t games you play, they are experiences curated for you by the dev. I thought The Order sucked for numerous reasons, but if it had a good narrative, I could have forgiven it. I thought HB2 had a great narrative, so I consider it a better game, and he is butt hurt about that.

He may also be more of a Salmon guy than Tuna.

 

[GymWolf]

He’s referring to me. HB2 and The Order aren’t games you play, they are experiences curated for you by the dev. I thought The Order sucked for numerous reasons, but if it had a good narrative, I could have forgiven it. I thought HB2 had a great narrative, so I consider it a better game, and he is butt hurt about that.

I didn't played hb2 but i heard people who liked the first one saying that the plot is nowhere as good and the voices are absolutely unsufferable because they just repeat obvious things and they are more annoying than endearing, i saw some footage and i have no problem believing that.

I think the order was slightly more of a proper game because it probably had more minutes of playtime where you fight folks compared to hb2 but i didn't liked the plot and charas almost at all, so i don't know who is best, i consider all of them as glorified playable tech demos with great atmosphere.

Btw i think he is talking about miku...

 

[Three]

Still a very beautiful looking game. I wonder if I can still play it on my PS5.

My brother played it on a PS5. He likes Tesla lore so he really got into it.

 

[cyberheater]

- less QTE bullshit

I forgot about the QTE stuff. I'm glad that didn't become a thing.

 

[RoboFu]

Never finished this extremely bland and boring game.

 

[rofif]

I didn't played hb2 but i heard people who liked the first one saying that the plot is nowhere as good and the voices are absolutely unsufferable because they just repeat obvious things and they are more annoying than endearing, i saw some footage and i have no problem believing that.

I think the order was slightly more of a proper game because it probably had more minutes of playtime where you fight folks compared to hb2 but i didn't liked the plot and charas almost at all, so i don't know who is best, i consider all of them as glorified playable tech demos with great atmosphere.

Btw i think he is talking about miku...

I loved the first one and 2nd one does not entice me at all. I am not going to play it

 

[GymWolf]

I loved the first one and 2nd one does not entice me at all. I am not going to play it

Because of the voices?

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

I rented it from Redbox and had the platinum before it charged for a second day, but I agree that it looked and played great.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I didn't played hb2 but i heard people who liked the first one saying that the plot is nowhere as good and the voices are absolutely unsufferable because they just repeat obvious things and they are more annoying than endearing, i saw some footage and i have no problem believing that.

I think the order was slightly more of a proper game because it probably had more minutes of playtime where you fight folks compared to hb2 but i didn't liked the plot and charas almost at all, so i don't know who is best, i consider all of them as glorified playable tech demos with great atmosphere.

Btw i think he is talking about miku...

Miku is a broski so no, I was talking about bumble.

Again, we may disagree until we're blue in the face, but, there are games like The Order and Ryse which, while they are still more on the tech-demo® side of things, they are still game-y enough compared to slop like Hellblade (both 1 and 2) which are literally the definition of "press forward for awesome ®" with horribad "combat", non existent exploration and even worse "puzzles".

Like, fucking Hell, I can accept someone liking one more than the other but, going on a tirade continuously shitting on one while praising the other (which is literally less interactive/has less player agency than the one you're shitting on) is where I personally draw the line on shit opinions.

Also, while I'm at it, Ninja theory has always been one of the most pretentious and shitty game devs out there, Heavenly sword was shit and run terribly on the PS3, Enslaved was a shit, autopilot® game with zero challenge, Hellblade was as mediocre as they come but "muh mental health problems" made it a critical darling, DmC...lol, such edginess that you could cut yourself with it, Bleeding Edge was pure unadulterated shite and died a quick death and as for Hellblade 2... They actually managed to surpass the first game in pretentiousness and boring "gameplay", I never really quite understood how this company managed to stay afloat all these years to be frank.