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[FiveMinuteHero]

Same in Malta, 70 Euro is what you pay if buy a game from a store. We have a lot of people selling games directly from Facebook though here, complete with free delivery and games are usuall 10 Euro cheaper. Don't expect a VAT receipt though!

 

[Sweep14]

So if it takes about 5 hours and 40 minutes running through the game without looking for collectables, I will probably take around 8 hours if you try to get all the collectables.

I think that's a fine playthrough time. A well paced game with a good story certainly doesn't need to be any longer than that.

YeaH. it's RAD first real triple AAA product. I'll give them a pass about game length for this game. Now that their assets are done I really Hope that they'll do a sequel in which they can develop the story for a longer SP experience and add MP in it...If a sequel happens...

 

[leng jai]

This is getting ridiculous. Can't we just save our comments about the game after it's actually released? The amount of speculative posts about The Order has been absurd.

 

[King_Moc]

Do the people concerned about this game realise they don't have to buy it?

It's almost as though people want the game to be good, but keep hearing stuff like this about it. I have a preorder in for it myself, and I'm highly critical of it. Currently it sounds like it'll be on eBay pretty soon after I get it.

 

[-MD-]

Playing evil within right now which can be beat in under 5 hours.

Which is essentially a speedrun.

The ones beating the order in 6 hrs have probably already played through it.

Doubtful.

 

[EatMyFace]

Why are people hating on this game so much?

 

[anddo0]

Do the people concerned about this game realise they don't have to buy it?

But I DO want to buy it. I just can't justify it at $60 based on my exceptions.
I'll own The Order at some point.

 

[vesvci]

It's weird how people are just going with the 5 hour play through as universal truth in here. Given that there are numbers from fellow gaffers of 10+, wouldn't it be a subjective thing given on how you play games? Seems like some people in here have no interest in the game and are just here for some reason?

It reeks of astro-turfing or just pure ignorance with a hint of denial.

 

[Mr. Nice_Guy]

The fact that they refuse to tell us roughly how long the game is says it all really. The game is gonna be short, which is disappointing.

Pretty much this, regardless if this was before the video of the play through was released, the fact that they aren't coming out and saying how long it is tells you all you need to know, which is that it is shorter than what the accepted norm for a $60 game is.

I still hope it's a great game that does well though, I have nothing against the publisher and always welcome a new IP.

 

[T.O.P]

Do the people concerned about this game realise they don't have to buy it?

Stupid thing to say

People are interested in the game, they just wanna get info about it before dropping 70€ on it

I call it being smart

 

[vesvci]

Why are people hating on this game so much?

It's a PS4 exclusive. It seems to happen every time, and every time the game ends up being fantastic.

 

[glaurung]

I don't give two shits about the length, I just want to play this.

Are there difficulty levels in the game?

 

[Backfoggen]

Good, I hate it when games pad shit out to come to some arbitrary length constraint to satisfy no-lifers that only play games to escape the real world. Quality > quantity.

come at me.

Let it all out bro

 

[-MD-]

I don't give two shits about the length, I just want to play this.

Are there difficulty levels in the game?

I believe it has easy - normal - hard as difficulties.

Good, I hate it when games pad shit out to come to some arbitrary length constraint to satisfy no-lifers that only play games to escape the real world. Quality > quantity.

come at me.

Nice.

 

[jiiikoo]

I don't give two shits about the length, I just want to play this.

Are there difficulty levels in the game?

Yes. Normal and Hard atleast, possibly Easy.

 

[vesvci]

It's almost as though people want the game to be good, but keep hearing stuff like this about it. I have a preorder in for it myself, and I'm highly critical of it. Currently it sounds like it'll be on eBay pretty soon after I get it.

Nice spin. You got me dizzy with that comment.

 

[Bananajama]

This game from conception to finish has had nothing but negative attacks on it.

Beyond tedious now.

I'm just waiting for the user reviews which from what I've seen so far are mixed-positive

 

[OverBlood 3]

But what if the game is really good?
I'd rather have a short good game than a long crap game.

 

[JustenP88]

I don't give two shits about the length, I just want to play this.

Are there difficulty levels in the game?

Yep. Most GAF impressions seem to be that normal is pretty easy. Hard is recommended. Usually I play through a game on Normal but I think I'll jump straight to Hard for this one.

 

[big_z]

Why are people hating on this game so much?

the game has never had much positive buzz. every hands on leads to press saying how it looks great but is boring/average at best. now throw in a very short play time on top of that and it just adds fuel to the fire. unless this game has a story to remember im guess scores will fall into the 6-7 range.

It's a PS4 exclusive. It seems to happen every time, and every time the game ends up being fantastic.

There isn't a ps4 exclusive that I would call fantastic. Exclusives have been disappointing to average imo. Im hoping bloodborne will be the first must have for the system.

 

[matrix-cat]

It reeks of astro-turfing or just pure ignorance with a hint of denial.

It's literally a full, unhurried, first time playthrough of the entire game on Youtube that lasts five hours and forty minutes. People aren't pulling the number out of thin air.

 

[graybot]

This game from conception to finish has had nothing but negative attacks on it.

Beyond tedious now.

Ive never seen anything like it

The gaming media have from day one had issues with this game. I cant think of other similar examples.

Usually they wait for it to release and give benefit of the doubt

 

[T.O.P]

Good, I hate it when games pad shit out to come to some arbitrary length constraint to satisfy no-lifers that only play games to escape the real world. Quality > quantity.

come at me.

wut



wutwut

 

[glaurung]

Yep. Most GAF impressions seem to be that normal is pretty easy. Hard is recommended. Usually I play through a game on Normal but I think I'll jump straight to Hard for this one.

Sounds like a valid idea. I should be receiving my Blackwater Edition box this Friday as well.

 

[Sakura]

Rather disappointing to hear.
Sure, I'd rather play a good 5 hour game than a boring 30 hour game... But it's not like the options of good 10, 15, 30, etc hour games don't exist or something, so that kind of argument doesn't really make sense.
If I've got 60 bucks to spend on a game I would rather choose something like Bloodborne or one of the other upcoming games I'm excited for, than a game I know is only 5 hours and I will likely only play once.
I know for some people it isn't an issue, but when games cost the same price I think it is natural for people to spend their money where they think they will get the most bang.
Oh well, I will probably play it in the future when it comes to plus or is like 15 dollars or something.

 

[Brad Grenz]

Yeah, I don't think that any of those people wanted full price, 5 hour games with no replay value and unskippable cutscenes to be the answer to that. And 'tacked on' multiplayer was only a criticism when the multiplayer was an afterthought and not very good. Look at TLOU as an example of how to get basically everything right. Great length (14 hours first playthrough for me), story focused yet still has excellent gameplay and a superb multiplayer mode.

If you set the bar at the most talented AAA developer in the world, everything else will always fall short. When they announced Uncharted 2 would have multi a bunch of people shit a brick. Same for God of War: Ascension. Same for Tomb Raider (2013). The ultimate quality of those multiplayer modes didn't even enter into the debate since people thought it was wasteful to invest in anything but a quality single player experience.

Not everyone plays MP, believe it or not some people just pick up that series for the campaign (as short as it is)

They have the stats. A third of all the people who buy Call of Duty games only play Single player. And they do it year after year, so the mainstream don't seem that pissed off about 4 hour campaigns as long as they have a good time.

 

[I Stalk Alone]

Remember Portal's length?

:]

Portal doesnt have two hours of cutscenes and quicktime events. How much actual gaming is in the order without the cutscenes and press button to win cutscenes? Can someome let me know?

 

[Tsukumo]

Yeah, and a lot of those games were beat in 5 days, in between school and home work. There were also games I beat in one day, because I had to because the games didn't have save features.


We need to compare games to back then because the business models the industry is pushing games in now (evolve for example) is not the way to go. It preys on the consumer.

We do not - need- mp in everything.

I'm sure they could have tacked on a co-op hord mode, but I rather have nothing than that tacked on feel. If it feels tacked on then I would be mad that resources that could have went to the campaign were wasted.


Casuals are not reading that article

I'm no casual. I've actually wanted to buy this game from the day it was announced, as I'm addicted to anything steampunk. I have no problem with the length, or the gameplay, or the QTEs. My only problem and the reason why I'm not going to buy it is the black bars.
The only exception I would EVER make is if the story is actually good (REALLY good), as story would sway me on any game, from any developer (even Ubisoft, a major I've grown to extremely despise). I'm interested in anything positive I can hear about the game, but if they get asked a question and they give a reply which sounds like an evasion and a justification, then this can only make me suspicious and diffident.
I wanted to play Shadow of Mordor from day one, but I have always considered a mistake on Warner Bros part to not directly dispute the bullshit thrown at them by Ubisoft.
I love Destiny but I think that trying to control the community with weekly updates is the biggest mistake they have made. Even bigger than the grimoire card app or the butchery of the story/missions.
There's plenty of problems with the way developers nowadays handle PR. In this case, I find that their strategy was a mistake. As sensible as Weerasuriya acknowledgements are, they are still evasive and roundabout: an honest, direct answer would have made them look more confident in their product.

 

[BokehKing]

It's literally a full, unhurried, first time playthrough of the entire game on Youtube that lasts five hours and forty minutes. People aren't pulling the number out of thin air.

You sure it's their first time playing? I mean, it is a youtube person looking for subs

 

[Gormenghast]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

 

[Lord_Santa]

I don't understand why this is such a big issue. I've played every single Metal Gear Solid game and I've never had a problem with the game length, those were mostly single player only games with TONNES on cutscenes, but the engaging story, the gameplay, great visuals and characters kept me interested.

If it's anything close to that then I'll definitely enjoy it. I'll just wait and see.

 

[-MD-]

Portal doesnt have two hours of cutscenes and quicktime events. How much actual gaming is in the order without the cutscenes and press button to win cutscenes? Can someome let me know?

From the youtube video roughly 3 hours, mind you he's not spending time in areas looking for collectables.

 

[vesvci]

It's literally a full, unhurried, first time playthrough of the entire game on Youtube that lasts five hours and forty minutes. People aren't pulling the number out of thin air.

People have watched 5 hours straight of the video? 5 hours straight?

I wish I could verify it myself, but now way in hell am I going to waste 5 hours my life doing that. As it may be the case, it would be ridiculous to take that video as absolute truth. For all we know it could be edited. As others have said, people here are saying 10+ hours.

 

[K' Dash]

Lol @ the people comparing this to Super Metroid, no first run is 5 hours, pls...

I want to know if my first run will be 5-6 hours, I wont speedrun the game, I'll take my time and sabor it, surely a lot of people did this at RAD, they must have a number.

 

[impact]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

Exclusive titles make people nutty. I'm with you on this one.

 

[GHG]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

Go on then, show us all these reports.

I'm especially interested in the ones about the final game.

 

[BokehKing]

I'm no casual. I've actually wanted to buy this game from the day it was announced, as I'm addicted to anything steampunk. I have no problem with the length, or the gameplay, or the QTEs. My only problem and the reason why I'm not going to buy it is the black bars.
The only exception I would EVER make is if the story is actually good (REALLY good), as story would sway me on any game, from any developer (even Ubisoft, a major I've grown to extremely despise). I'm interested in anything positive I can hear about the game, but if they get asked a question and they give a reply which sounds like an evasion and a justification, then this can only make me suspicious and diffident.
I wanted to play Shadow of Mordor from day one, but I have always considered a mistake on Warner Bros part to not directly dispute the bullshit thrown at them by Ubisoft.
I love Destiny but I think that trying to control the community with weekly updates is the biggest mistake they have made. Even bigger than the grimoire card app or the butchery of the story/missions.
There's plenty of problems with the way developers nowadays handle PR. In this case, I find that their strategy was a mistake. As sensible as Weerasuriya acknowledgements are, they are still evasive and roundabout: an honest, direct answer would have made them look more confident in their product.

I wasn't calling you a casual, I was saying the people who don't live on online forums are not going to care about that interview, they will see something cool on their TV and buy it.

 

[Clarkus Darkus]

After spending over 50hrs in DAI and giving up with its padded content then this is a welcome turn on pace to be fair, I'll be thorough with it and immerse myself in the atmosphere and story, So if it is 5hrs, 8hrs, then aslong as it is a quality experience and memorable then it is value for money.

Not to mention you can sell the game after completion you know if you go physical and get a massive chunk of it back.

 

[Frillen]

Why are people hating on this game so much?

People are not hating on this game more than any other game. But because it's an exclusive, you have all these defenders that only defends it because it's an exclusive. It's like they have received a mission order from Sony to defend the title like their lives depended on it.

There are some legitimately concerns regarding the title, as reflected in most The Order 1886 threads.

It's a PS4 exclusive. It seems to happen every time, and every time the game ends up being fantastic.

Knack and Killzone Shadowfall are not fantastic games. Hell both are pretty mediocre. Even Second Son and DriveClub are not fantastic games. They're definitely great games though.

 

[Lord_Santa]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

Many of the impressions I have seen here on Gaf and elsewhere have been decidedly positive. I don't know where you are getting your facts from, but at least provide a link to back up your claims.

 

[Dragon Puncher]

It reeks of astro-turfing or just pure ignorance with a hint of denial.

10+ seems to be if you're going for collectables. Considering the great presentatation and atmosphere (of what I've seen at least) of the game, it almost seems like you're not doing it justice if you're not exploring.

That being said, it's a game that can be platinumed in a single playthrough of about 10 hours. I can totally respect anyone who doesn't think that's enough value for a full priced game, but if the experience is great I personally don't have a problem with it.

 

[-MD-]

People have watched 5 hours straight of the video? 5 hours straight?

I wish I could verify it myself, but now way in hell am I going to waste 5 hours my life doing that. As it may be the case, it would be ridiculous to take that video as absolute truth. For all we know it could be edited. As others have said, people here are saying 10+ hours.

I watched a decent amount of it myself, I didn't notice any editing, all the chapter numbers/titles match up from video to video as well.

 

[Readingaid]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

Id like to read these negative impression, could you link me to them>?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Dude said the YouTube video which everyone can see is flat out impossible? Is that what we've come to?

 

[T.O.P]

You sure it's their first time playing? I mean, it is a youtube person looking for subs

 

[mercenar1e]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

I have my own concerns of price vs replayability but this is taking it beyond.. pure bull shit lol this game is no where near Ryse in any department.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I don't understand why this is such a big issue. I've played every single Metal Gear Solid game and I've never had a problem with the game length, those were mostly single player only games with TONNES on cutscenes, but the engaging story, the gameplay, great visuals and characters kept me interested.

If it's anything close to that then I'll definitely enjoy it. I'll just wait and see.

Not that I disagree with your point, but I keep seeing people throw MGS around as a short game and thats just weird. MGS has more content than a single campaign run.

 

[zeromcd73]

Id like to read these negative impression, could you link me to them>?

The're in the spoiler thread. Wouldn't recommend reading if you don't want to find out what happens.

 

[vesvci]

People are not hating on this game more than any other game. But because it's an exclusive, you have all these defenders that only defends it because it's an exclusive. It's like they have received a mission order from Sony to defend the title like their lives depended on it.

There are some legitimately concerns regarding the title.

What a skewed up point of view.

 

[Sweep14]

I wonder why lots of people dismiss the length issue by saying how great a short experience can be too.

Yet, from all reports, this isn't just a short game but a really bad one too. Shallow gameplay, shallow story, underdeveloped setting. It's just pretty bad from every angle you look at it.

I'm really curious about what makes people defend this with blind faith. I'd understand if it was a Soul game, but this is on a level of Ryse, just with a 3rd person shooter instead of a brawler.

We have a new contestant here : In his reality, all reports indicates the game is really bad now...

All those desperate and useless efforts to try to bring it down are pathetic. Try harder : The Order 1886 is on his way to be one of the bestsellers, if not the bestseller, game of Q1 2015