HighResTomato
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Have a look at thread where people were outraged that Ryse was between 6-7hrs long.
Ready at Dawn responds to "concern" over The Order: 1886 campaign length
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Have a look at thread where people were outraged that Ryse was between 6-7hrs long.
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Deleted member 17706
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I may be wrong, but the YouTuber has his entire playthrough uploaded so people can confirm his claim if they want to. He also is very positive about the game, so it doesn't look like some attempt to sabotage it.
Either way, we'll all know soon enough. Looking forward to playing through the game for myself. I was skeptical before, but I really haven't heard any bad impressions about how the game plays or its performance (which I was most worried about). It may be kind of short, but if its a fun ride, I'll be happy.
Honome
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
The sound of the shotgun in that game was incredible.
The sooner people remember that video gaming is a hobby and being so heavily emotionally invested in one company is unhealthy the better.
Who gives a shit if people are concerned or trolling The Order? Is it going to impact how much you or other people enjoy the game?
I've posted some pretty childish shit in my time here on GAF but the immaturity of the gaming community is still pretty shocking.
Interfectum
Member
Plot twist... the game is actually -1.5 hours in length. We've all already beaten the game.
Coolbgdog12
Member
And? Unless they've also uploaded videos from start to finish, how does that detract from that guys video? He played pretty normally, and you can't say, oh someone else would have done this.
That's my only problem. All of you want to discredit the guy, when he's just a normal guy who uploaded the full playthrough of his game.
Also, it's not about replayability, it seems as if the campaign is about 5-7ish hours on length in average. Now people who like to explore every book and cranny can definitely do longer, but people who speed run could probably even beat the game in 4 hours.
dgrdsv
Member
Ah but have you paid for that yet?
Also on the topic of "beating the game in x hours" everyone should take a look at Quake Done Quick project videos.
Kinda put things into proper perspective for those of us who can't tell the difference between playing the game a running through a game.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
I'll be severely disappointed if it's 5 hours total with half of that being cutscenes. I still want to buy this game but I'm going to be keeping a real close eye on gaf impressions and from people that have actually played the game.
I swear though if it's only 5 fucking hours and they release some story dlc bullshit that might be the worst thing to happen in gaming in 2015. I'll be outraged I tell ya.
I swear though if it's only 5 fucking hours and they release some story dlc bullshit that might be the worst thing to happen in gaming in 2015. I'll be outraged I tell ya.
It doesn't seem like there would be a ton of wiggle room for speedrunning in a game like this.
EightBitNate
Member
The average consumer will definitely care if the game is short lol what are you talking about
Where were you when Ryse came out?
Freeman
Banned
Why are people so attached to the 5 and half our youtube video?If you looks at the video, the guy is clearway trying to go as fast as possible, in a difficulty that isn't a challenge for him, he even refuses to pick up items that are in front of him most of the time if he thinks it isn't the way to progress.
Is Kirby even a long game?
Is Kirby even a long game?
Air Zombie Meat
Member
No one would want to speedrun a game with long unskippable cutscenes anyway.
"Constant Sony exclusive bashing"? Where is that happening? Surely not on this forum.
Always-honest
Banned
An hour?
Lol, hear how you talk.
Sounds about right. If you really care bout the game, you wouldnt do this.
People did it with TLoU also and said they did it because it "was like a movie" so they used that to dismiss the game entirely.
If you watch youtube videos of an entire game, you have lost what gaming is about. Only people that I think would do this are those people not able to afford these games and maybe their only choice is to "watch" it being played so they get some of the "experience" and have something to talk about among their gaming friends.
Indeed. Can't post concern or you are a 'concern troll.' Can't get too excited or you are the 'defense force.' Get out of here with that shit. Some are concerned and have their reasons to be, while others are still excited for what the game is. While those groups most certainly exist, you can't use the label as a hammer on everyone with an opposing view to your own.
MeBecomingI
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Personally for me, I couldn't give a damn if the game is 6 hours or so. If the game is great, then those 6 hours will be worth my time and money. Simple as that. I'd rather they put all their effort into creating a well crafted single player campaign with a seemingly lost art of great storytelling than half-assing some multiplayer mode or adding boring fluff and filler to artificially extend the length of the game. I'm glad they've looked outside the box and chose to create something a little different.
But man, threads about this game are all so damn similar. It seems like reason and logic go right out the window when it comes to discussing this game. I mean, now we have even shorter length numbers being pulled out of asses apparently. Man, the review thread is going to be ridiculous. I expect the game to get shit on heavily because of things like linearity, focus on story telling, no multiplayer, etc. and if this is what an Order thread is like about only the length... oh no. That won't be pretty.
But man, threads about this game are all so damn similar. It seems like reason and logic go right out the window when it comes to discussing this game. I mean, now we have even shorter length numbers being pulled out of asses apparently. Man, the review thread is going to be ridiculous. I expect the game to get shit on heavily because of things like linearity, focus on story telling, no multiplayer, etc. and if this is what an Order thread is like about only the length... oh no. That won't be pretty.
kitschbeam
Member
People are complaining MGR being a short game (which can be completed in about 4 hours) but I really, really enjoyed the game. Much better than those "200 hours of gameplay" games.
Basically I don't mind The Order being a short game as long it's a damn good game.
Basically I don't mind The Order being a short game as long it's a damn good game.
nobodyshero
Banned
Revengeance was 6 hours, and at least an hour of that was cutscenes, and I fucking loved that game.
I can't wait for The Order. In a world where Dragon Age Inquisition wasted 40 hours of my time in what should have been a 20-25 hour game, I'm all for lean and mean.
I can't wait for The Order. In a world where Dragon Age Inquisition wasted 40 hours of my time in what should have been a 20-25 hour game, I'm all for lean and mean.
Exploratory
Banned
I don't know anyone who'd spend 60 on that.
cripterion
Member
No biggie, I'm glad you cleared out your post for us.
Dragon Age : Inquisition is another beast though. I can understand what you're saying although I think one can cut through the filler in the game.
I think my final playtime clocked in at 100 hours. Yes it's a long ass time and funnily enough I didn't even like the game that much, I forced myself to play through almost all of it. Glad I did since know I know I'm done with this franchise.
blacklotus
Member
Awesome. 10/10 would cry with laughter again.
Not sure but it isn't $60. I'll get The Order when it's around $40.
Freeman
Banned
Hard to believe that is true. You would have missed so much dialogue and details, total waste.
-MD-
Member
Cause it's a fuckin vending machine that spits out video games.
Good question
As it should be. If its a fun 5 hours straight through with good replay value, so be it. I wonder how people thought of game lengths back when games 8-16 bit games were like 60 bucks.
EightBitNate
Member
Plus it's bound to be pretty much entirely gameplay.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Such a garbage article by Eurogamer. Games don't HAVE to have MultIplayer OR be 50 hours long to be "a good value". I could give MassaTwoShits if the game is 4 hours long if it's a quality experience. The very last thing this industry needs is a lack of variety in the experiences it provides. We NEED single player focused games, of all types.
His comment about the market needing to have space for different types of games rings so true for me. It's great that Sony has funded a game that isn't bending every which direction to try and conform to bars set by games that have totally different objectives through the years. It's almost like a game like 1886 should have to come from Kickstarter these days, as it's likely not something most major publishers are willing to jump on. No outposts to conquer? No level-up multiplayer? Not an established IP? No doo-dads that incentivize not trading the game in? In that sense it's a miracle that we get to see RAD's vision with a properly fully-funded backing.
If RAD has a story with a specific set of content and pacing that they want to use to present it, why on earth would I be upset with them for not expanding it out with additional filler just so more time passes between when I start and end my experience with the game?
What it comes down to is whether it is fulfilling or not. That will be how I judge the value of the game.
If RAD has a story with a specific set of content and pacing that they want to use to present it, why on earth would I be upset with them for not expanding it out with additional filler just so more time passes between when I start and end my experience with the game?
What it comes down to is whether it is fulfilling or not. That will be how I judge the value of the game.
TheChocolateWar
Member
Game lengths were much longer back then. God did I spend countless hours playing Phantasy Star and Legacy Axe. Even corridor shooters and action games had more meat on their bones. Sword of the Berserk was something like 10-13 hours.
Hawk269
Member
Personally when I play games of this nature, I tend to take my time and look in every nook and cranny for secrets or stuff like that. However, with that said, I do prefer a game that is a little more longer than it being shorter, even with my play style. If the average gamer beats this game in 5-6 hours, then to me that is pretty short.
I don't think a games length is something that the user needs to artificially inflate by exploring every possible corner in the game. The main game itself should be a bit longer and then those that do like to explore it will last longer for them. I have not watched any of those video's or anything other than reading about the length of the game, so for me things will still be a surprise outside of a few screen shots I looked at.
I am hoping at the end that it is a fun and enjoyable game, that if I spend the time looking in every corner that I am rewarded with hidden items or stuff like that.
I don't think a games length is something that the user needs to artificially inflate by exploring every possible corner in the game. The main game itself should be a bit longer and then those that do like to explore it will last longer for them. I have not watched any of those video's or anything other than reading about the length of the game, so for me things will still be a surprise outside of a few screen shots I looked at.
I am hoping at the end that it is a fun and enjoyable game, that if I spend the time looking in every corner that I am rewarded with hidden items or stuff like that.
Not to mention there are many games from that time that I have never beaten.
If you buy The Order, you KNOW you will be done with it in a few days.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
That already happened with Ryse. You can't have forgotten that, can you Gribble?
Oh right, time to pull out the old persecution complex card
copelandmaster
Member
Wow. The Order was there 2-3 weeks ago in the coming soon section.
Gamefly free trial in a few months it is then.
Linearskillz
Member
Threads like these make me sad. Many of my favourite games are 5-7 hour single player campaigns (example: Max Payne 1/2). It's disheartening to see so many people attach some kind of $/hr requirement or cry for a tacked-on multiplayer mode that no one plays anyway.
"This is why we can't have nice things" etc.
Making such a huge deal out of the length, which quite frankly seems to be rather average for a single player shooter, only detracts from any valid praise or criticism in my eyes. If the game is bad it won't be because it was only 5 hours long. If nothing else shorter games tend to have better pacing.
It really seems like some people have had it out for this game since it was announced. Don't know what it is about this one in particular.
"This is why we can't have nice things" etc.
Making such a huge deal out of the length, which quite frankly seems to be rather average for a single player shooter, only detracts from any valid praise or criticism in my eyes. If the game is bad it won't be because it was only 5 hours long. If nothing else shorter games tend to have better pacing.
It really seems like some people have had it out for this game since it was announced. Don't know what it is about this one in particular.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
They could at least keep the shit stocked, then. I got The Last of Us from redbox day one. Now, this shit is getting Evolve on the 26th. C'mon, son.