morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Seems appropriate to post my version from back in November that I outlined in the Arrow thread:
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Flash is undoubtedly the most entertaining show I'm watching right now, which is why it's so annoying when the writing falters a bit. The General shares a lot of the same problems as Amanda Waller on Arrow and is just so generic when it comes to his motivations and attitude. The spike and ion grenades were also pretty lazy writing and didn't feel earned to me, kind of in the same vein as the Batman shark-repellent cliche. The acid grenade was pretty clever though, I'll give them that, though Barry could have probably just ran to his lab and neutralized himself with a base much quicker running in circles for ten minutes.
I know I'm nitpicking here, and I don't mean to imply these things ruin the show for me. The amazing quality of everything else just sorta highlights the more hamfisted parts of the writing. It's still hard to believe how well they're pulling off Grodd. It's fucking GRODD.
I know I'm nitpicking here, and I don't mean to imply these things ruin the show for me. The amazing quality of everything else just sorta highlights the more hamfisted parts of the writing. It's still hard to believe how well they're pulling off Grodd. It's fucking GRODD.
Dongs Macabre
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"Not God. Grodd."
That was awesome.
Too bad we have to wait a whole month for the next episode.
That was awesome.
Too bad we have to wait a whole month for the next episode.
ShemhazaiX
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You're a bit late to that reveal.
It was revealed he was the Reverse Flash in the episode that they introduced Reverse Flash.
See, if you're enlightened like I am, then you know the real show is down below: the booty, baby! That's where it's at! Nothing trumps the rump, my friend. Anyone who can't see that is either blind or a fool. That's why I say enough with this mass boob hysteria. It's time to set things right. It's time to give the ass the respect it deserves!
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E the Shaggy
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Well is literally moving so fast that he can appear to be in two places at once. Can't imagine how many times he was switching between regular clothes and the Zoom costume.
fallengorn
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So where them Grodd gifs at?
The Iris-Lana comparison would explain a lot actually.
Her hands aren't manly enough.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Regarding Reverse Flash, I do think it's important to consider that
Obviously that doesn't fully explain it, but I wouldn't be surprised if if factored into explaining some stuff.
one version of the character isn't a true speedster, but has time traveling abilities that closely resemble speed-force users.
Obviously that doesn't fully explain it, but I wouldn't be surprised if if factored into explaining some stuff.
ShemhazaiX
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1st half of S1 Arrow is a lot better than all of season 3. Season 3 has a B team of writers, directors and producers handling it. THe drop in quality is obvious.
No, it isn't a B-team. It is still matching The Flash in quality, just with a different atmosphere. It is missing an overarching, present charismatic villain though.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
It isn't obvious from the credits. It's mostly the same people writing the show.
fallengorn
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I wouldn't say dislike (I still dig it) but it's not as good as the first two seasons. I think everyone pretty much agrees the flashbacks in this season have not worked very well compared to past seasons. And the general plotting seems slower and unfocused than before.
I think a general sense of disappointment was inevitable because of how good Season 2 was. It also doesn't help that there's a sister-show in The Flash that's pretty much exceeding everyone's expectations.
Agreed. I would also add that the lack of a main villain has hurt it as well. Ra's is great, but has had very little screen time.
Oh I agree with the flashbacks... especially since already revealed that everyone is alive.
But yeah, I knew pacing couldn't keep up or they'd burn through everything.
I think the problem with Arrow right now is a combination of things. The drop in pace from season 2 and not just the finale but a good part of the season. How good The Flash simply has been. That combined with some story decisions that people just aren't happy with or only mildly interested in. Then there is the dreary tone of Arrow that is becoming to much for some people. A tone that has been there but is in contrast not just with Flash but even shows like Gotham, Constantine, and even Agents of Shield and other shows that are on the CW itself.
That they slowed down the story is fine. They have to build things back up. It's how they're going about it, not that they're doing it, is the problem along with everything else I said.
That they slowed down the story is fine. They have to build things back up. It's how they're going about it, not that they're doing it, is the problem along with everything else I said.
Vulcano's assistant
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Pretty annoyed, watching the latest episode this morning not realizing it only recorded half of it.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Yes, the dark broodiness of Arrow is getting to me. BatArrow isn't the Green Arrow that I remember from the DCAU. I love the show, but it gets tiring.
Hopefully Flashpoint will be used as a way for Oliver to get his Oliver back. Right now he is just the Arrow, Oliver is gone. He needs to find balance between the two.
Hopefully Flashpoint will be used as a way for Oliver to get his Oliver back. Right now he is just the Arrow, Oliver is gone. He needs to find balance between the two.
My biggest current problem with Arrow is none of the characters are likable this season except maybe Thea. Flash is the compete opposite.
Speaking of likeable characters, the lack of Linda was weird considering she's dating Barry. I hope she shows up next ep but i wouldn't be surprised if the writers just forget about her for awhile longer.
Speaking of likeable characters, the lack of Linda was weird considering she's dating Barry. I hope she shows up next ep but i wouldn't be surprised if the writers just forget about her for awhile longer.
I said this in the Arrow thread but it feels like they made Arrow more serious and dreary to differentiate it from the Flash.
Its funny every time I come into this thread everyone is talking about Arrow.
I'm hoping that general fella is alive I like the actor and character. It showed he was smart that he had developed a weapon to deal with Flash incase he interfered and he had the grenade to deal with Firestorm instead of just relying on guns.
StudioTan
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Look they are definitely working with a B team. In the arrow threads I also complained about the action which has also dropped in quality. That's why I'm also going to look at stunt directors.
Writers
Marc Guggenheim 4 - 4 - 3 (11 telepalys) (8 writings) (3 stories)
Andrew Kreisberg 4 - 3 - 2 (10 telepalys) (2 writings) (7 stories)
Executive Producer
Marc Guggenheim 21 - 23 - 0
Andrew Kreisberg 21 - 23 - 0
Stunt Coordinators
(assisstant) Jon Krait 23 - 13 - 0
J.J. Makaro 23 - 13 - 0
So right off the bat the 3 people who made arrow what it is during season 1 and 2 haven't produced a single episode of season 3.
Since the season isn't over yet we can't say anything about their impact on the writing but it's quite clear whoever is producing season 3 is having an impact on the quality.
The 3 people who did the bulk of directing action pieces for 1 and 2 have done one episode of season 3 between themselves.
I'll do directors for the arrow thread in the future but so far I can say with confidence you won't see the same people directing season 1 and 2 being a part of most of season 3.
Absolutely nothing is happening. Major plot points are introduced then just glossed over like... nothing is happening? Felicity's character is slowly becoming more annoying than Smallville Lana Lang. "Island" flashbacks are becoming more and more painful to sit through as it becomes apparent that they had no plan whatsoever for what Ollie did outside of the actual island. They're just making shit up as they go to mirror whatever is happening in the present day and it's just becoming so predictable and boring.
Arrow used to be my favorite show on television by far and now I don't even care to watch it every week--going to wait out this season then marathon it in the Summer. Really hope Flash doesn't suffer the same fate (go hard season 1-2, left with very little material, and all the showrunners abandon to launch a new show).
Agree with the guy who said Oliver is just the Arrow now and it's tiring. He's in perma-hood mode and it feels like Arrow has just turned into a serious take on the film "Neighborhood Watch." Him and Roy just out on patrol, now Laurel too, same old same old go out and shoot up the dude who escaped jail for the third time, and come back to the same old lair under the same old bar. Digg is in the corner giving some hard advice, and Felicity is whining about anything and everything. Something needs to happen to shake things up. Shake up team Arrow, shake up the setting, shake up the relationships, just drop a nuke on everything.
pulga
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hey hey hey, I clearly stated not giving a fuck about the name of what she's wearing
All I care about is dat everything
Looks like they're using the show as a lead-in for the iZombie premiere. Next ep looks like a lot of megatons dropping so they'll build up the hype and use it to get iZombie off to a better start.
Schweinehund
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Next arrow episode looks promising, but you're right that it hasn't been consistently good as flash or season 2 has been. Should take Roy and Diggle off or do something with them, their character development has basically flat lined.
Phoenician_Viking
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Gorilla Grod is really no match for the Flash. Most villains are not. Barry is overpowered and he does not even have full access to his powers yet.
Well that explains his acting...
Stallion Dan
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The Batman universe is pretty realistic though for the most part, aside from some BS technology here and there. It kinds of has to be since Batman is a pretty crappy superhero, made painfully obvious when involved in DC crossovers, which is usually where BS technology gets even worse, to make up for his crappiness compared to Superman, Flash and co.
In that respect, Gotham is pretty accurate to the Batverse. Agents of Shield is easily the worst for being too down to earth most of the time (in comparison to its universe). It just has these odd blips up and down where it gets wacky then settles to too normal again, rather than finding a balance. It needs decide what it wants to be.
I think Gotham great, especially considering it isn't Batman: The TV Show. Enjoying it more than Arrow S3. Flash is top tier though, easily and by far.
Kinda funny, because I love the Marvel films (MCU) but find the TV show poor, with DC I find the TV shows great but the movies poor. I always favoured Marvel over DC growing up.
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Anyway, if they do a Flashpoint version it doesn't have to affect Arrow at all, that could continue on as normal and when Flash eventually fixes everything can explain it all in a simple "But nothing changed, Barry", "Because I fixed it Ollie, you wouldn't notice". Or something to that effect.
Grodd is one of those who stand a pretty good chance. Grodd isn't about smashing things in with his physical power. He has it pretty good in that department too, but his greatest weapons are his intelligence and psychic powers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M79h1td3UPs
Walter Steele as his John Diggle.
Then again the whole point of Flashpoint is that it does change things. And if Flashpoint is happening and we're replacing Batman with GA, then Oliver needs to get a note from his dad which would surely have a huge impact on him.
RoninChaos
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So is the show on hiatus again?
Tal Shiar Agent
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Maybe something to make him remember to be Oliver again and not only the Arrow?
He has not been Oliver in years.
StudioTan
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OdysseusVA
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greatest moment on the show by far
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