The exact same shit could have been said about Thor. Thor is based on norse mythology and all sorts of lame associated shit has to be set up to make the universe make sense. More awful comic stories related to Thor than good ones. But there's a few good ones, same with Aquaman.
But if you don't have the confidence in your characters to think it's worth establishing real narrative weight with them, that's an even bigger problem. The point is to make these characters worth a damn in the cinematic universe. That's what Marvel keeps doing, because they're taking their time. Honestly few people gave a shit about Guardians of the Galaxy before the films, just look out how popular they were. And now people are interested. If you do it right, you can make concepts that aren't particularly compelling on paper work well for film.
It's a problem making a film to introduce all these concepts to audience - Aquaman still needs to be established as ruling his underwater kingdom, you have to establish all that stuff about Wonder Woman's realm, you're gonna have to establish Batman's new Gotham now. All these things are going to have to be functioning at some level in Superman vs. Batman, to establish that there is a universe of heroes out there.
People really don't have any expectations for the shit they watch maybe, but I do. I want character moments and storylines to be earned. When you have to rush to fit all these plot lines in a 2 and a half hour movie, you get shit like Spiderman 3.
And it's not like my concern is unwarranted. Man of Steel was really a problematic movie on so many levels. It wasn't as bad as some of the other Superman movies we've had in the years, but this is the start of a cinematic universe. It's dour, humourless stuff most of the time, lacks the charm of how Marvel established things. And as I said, I prefer DC comics.
The difference between how Marvel and DC are handling things is that Marvel clearly respects cinema. They understand what needs to happen in film for comic book characters and universes to work, for the audience to be able to suspend their disbelief. I mean we're talking about the director of 300 sequel Noam Murro as a potential director and Zack Snyder already in the mix from before? DC keeps picking style over substance wonks.
I hope they get their shit together, but I'm sorry man the concerns people have today are just as relevant now as they were the second they were said. Nothing has changed, and you have not established anything as changing since they started being concerns.
I think Jason Momoa looks pretty rad in this interpretation of AQUAMAN, but my concern remains I wish they would slow things down and give us a Wonder Woman movie first, and a Batman movie at least and then go the rest of the stuff.
Right now as cool as this outfit looks (and to their credit, the Superman outfit remains very well done), it's not the costumes that concern me.
They remain relevant, that's why they keep being brought up and why you're so unsurprised that they are. That you think you're "clowning" anyone made me smile though, thanks brosef
