Kid share plays Destiny to stranger...

Seventy70

Member
I have no idea why you are trying so hard to be condescending, the fact is that we have evidence of someone fully admitting to sabotaging someones account and we have people here who believe that buzzgoku/kermit's actions are justified because the kid was looking for trouble to begin with... Like I said in my previous post, death and loss of a character in a game are not on the same footing, but just because someone is at the wrong place at the wrong time, looking to do a little wrong (exploration of IN GAME glitches are not wrong not unless IRL money is involved) doesn't warrant something worse happening to him, AND for that worse thing to be okay.

Exactly. Going to a drug dealer and getting shot is not deserved just like this situation was not deserved. One is obviously much more serious, but they are both undeserved in the same ways.
 

legacyzero

Banned
"Hey bruh, let's glitch! K, BRB.

........

No.... NO..... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO."

Kid just learned a valuable lesson. That the Internet can be a shitty place sometimes.
 

joecanada

Member
Im new to this, is purposely being vague and obtuse some sort of "show of intelligence" here?

I feel sorry for the kids who are going to be raised soft and entitled by some of you guys lol. But hey, thats less competition for my kid.

yeah you go man, raise your kids to be killers, the top of the food chain...

let me know when you hold "how to screw over little kids 101" so my kids can attend too, everyone will be so impressed and they will be the happiest most well rounded people ever!
 
ITT an 11 year old middle school boy whose trust was gained and subsequently exploited by a 38 year old POS is expected to "know better" and "understand the consequences" of...trusting someone?

Here's the thing: we had threads as recently as this past week that lauded how helpful the Destiny community is. Exploiting/cheesing in Destiny is so common it's almost a communal activity. Players group up because someone more experienced with them can help them exploit Atheon or cheese the Nexus.

The kid didn't, like, go to the DARK INTERNET searching for a way to scam the system.
 
Kid got what was coming to him if he glitches, or otherwise cheats. Also, why would you give someone you don't know that kind of power? Tough love little kid, it don't pay to glitch.
 
Why? He isn't doing anything wrong. The kid was, that's how his characters got deleted.

Same happened to me once when I was a kid (Runescape lol), it just learned me a lesson. The kid isn't made from porcelain.


http://www.reddit.com/user/BuzzGoku is the guy who did it. (Notice his post history, you can see what a swell member of society he is.)

http://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/2wg91p/kid_tries_to_do_a_glitch_to_level_himself_up_on/ is the original posting,

What he did is against the TOS and should be banned for it.

I'm done posting here.
 

Sane_Man

Member
These aren't helpful comparisons. These acts are very illegal and cause permeant physical and psychological harm. The kid is very upset now but in a few years, he won't have PTSD flashbacks of the day someone deleted his characters.

Since neither you or Parent of the Year n0razi can seem to follow a basic analogy, my point is that blaming the kid or his parent in this instance is rather abhorrent when the other side of the blame game is some 38 year old man who spends his time targetting kids to make them miserable. I honestly don't know how fucked up your brain has to be to put the blame on the victim here, especially a child.
 

tirminyl

Member
Wait. 11-year-old kid playing a T-rated game while being unsupervised, on the Internet, voice chatting with strangers, and recording a video stream that is shared with the public?

As a parent I feel bad for the kid, but why are the parents even allowing this situation to occur?

Willful ignorance and resignation that it occupies the child's time. Seriously, there are some people that ask me about a game their kid should play, I tell them it is rated for 17 and older and they still buy it and let the kids play and chat online unsupervised.
 

Ovek

7Member7
"Hey bruh, let's glitch! K, BRB.

........

No.... NO..... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO."

Kid just learned a valuable lesson. That the Internet can be a shitty place sometimes.

Some one needs to pint this out and send it to the kid to stick on his wall.

David_Duchovny___Trust_no_one_by_PascalWagler.png
 

Seventy70

Member
Kid got what was coming to him if he glitches, or otherwise cheats. Also, why would you give someone you don't know that kind of power? Tough love little kid, it don't pay to glitch.

Where does it say he was paying. Go look in the Destiny OT everyone exploits the game in some way.
 
I was schooled like this so many times as a kid, and grew up watching gaming gods like Shawn Elliott prank the crap out of people of all ages. This is harmless, and funny. too much Internet white knights in here
 
ITT an 11 year old middle school boy whose trust was gained and subsequently exploited by a 38 year old POS is expected to "know better" and "understand the consequences" of...trusting someone?

If you want to wear big boy pants and play online, ya gotta put on big boy pants and take responsibility for your actions. The kid may be 11, but ultimately he allowed someone he didn't know to have access to his game. He learned a valuable life lesson.
 
By the way, there is no glitch to make a level 20 character go 31 with the way levels / light are handled in this game.

We know that, the kid didn't. He had befriended someone that a member of his clan invited into their game. He was purposelessly lied to so a 38 year old child could do something mean to an 11 year old kid.
 

qko

Member
This is why us old school gamers had cheap third party controllers lying around.

You never give the main controller to ANYONE.
 
Where does it say he was paying. Go look in the Destiny OT everyone exploits the game in some way.

I don't mean to dip my little fly in your ointment, but what are you talking about? I didn't say anything about him paying for something. It's an expression. It means you don't gain anything by exploiting the system. And I don't give a rats ass how common it is. Exploiting the system is exploiting the system.
 
So Bungie brings up the topic and.....No ban? Nothing for the kid? Wow.

It's almost like Bungie thinks what the kid was trying to do was wholly innocuous. Imagine that?

I don't mean to dip my little fly in your ointment, but what are you talking about? I didn't say anything about him paying for something. It's an expression. It means you don't gain anything by exploiting the system.

Your post said "don't pay to glitch" before you edited it.
 

Seventy70

Member
I don't mean to dip my little fly in your ointment, but what are you talking about? I didn't say anything about him paying for something. It's an expression. It means you don't gain anything by exploiting the system.

Oh wait, my bad. I must have skipped over the 'it'

You should still go look in Destiny OT. Glitching is openly accepted even if it's against the tos. Just like how doing drugs is openly accepted even though it's against the law.
 
I think some of the comments criticising the kid for trying to cheat are a bit absurd. Leveling in destiny isn't based on skill, just grinding. It also doesn't hurt anyone else playing the game in any way to skip that process. People are talking about it like the kid was using aimbots or wall hacks to screw over other players.
 

Fitts

Member
Just getting caught up from this morning. I see that Bungie is already aware of what happened and I hope they take action. It's also cool to see that people have been stepping up and offering to help the kid out.

This thread though... damn. A lot of reveling in his misery and, predictably, unnecessary Destiny bashing. (not that the game doesn't warrant a level of criticism, but it's irrelevant to this thread)
 

gatti-man

Member
http://www.reddit.com/user/BuzzGoku is the guy who did it. (Notice his post history, you can see what a swell member of society he is.)

http://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/2wg91p/kid_tries_to_do_a_glitch_to_level_himself_up_on/ is the original posting,

What he did is against the TOS and should be banned for it.

I'm done posting here.

Agreed. Guy is total scum and should be banned. Simply because the kid made a mistake doesn't mean there should be no consequences. At that age everyone just wants to belong and be cool. It would be very easy for an adult to manipulate that into this situation. It's an aweful thing to do.
 

chris121580

Member
Im new to this, is purposely being vague and obtuse some sort of "show of intelligence" here?

I feel sorry for the kids who are going to be raised soft and entitled by some of you guys lol. But hey, thats less competition for my kid.

I feel sorry for your kid. I think you left the fork in the light socket too long
 
I thought it was kind of funny until I heard him cry. In that moment the human impact was laid bare. You have no soul if you heard that and it had no effect on you. It was genuinely heart breaking.
 

R0ckman

Member
If someone went to a drug dealer and got shot, would the same people be saying, "well he deserved it. I dont feel sorry" ?

Believe it or not, there was a case of a young boy, not even a teen, with a toy gun, that police gunned and people in the comment sections on news media sites were mainly blaming the parent for letting the kid have a toy gun. The police officer obviously had enough training and sense to know how to handle that situation better.
 
Agreed. Guy is total scum and should be banned. Simply because the kid made a mistake doesn't mean there should be no consequences. At that age everyone just wants to belong and be cool. It would be very easy for an adult to manipulate that into this situation. It's an aweful thing to do.

I think you are overlooking that there should also be consequences for the kid too, of which I think we can all agree there have been. He learned a valuable lesson the hard way. I'm not saying the guy that did it isn't scum, but the child isn't completely free of blame here either.
 

Seventy70

Member
LOL, c'mon dude. I watched GAF's autorefresh update your post from "don't pay to glitch" to "it don't pay to glitch" because I was about to quote you and say the same thing that Seventy70 did.

Could've sworn I saw the same thing too. Anyway, mods can see edit history....
 
Honest question I suddenly got curious about.

Do you all feel this issue would have sparked as much attention as it has without the little boy crying at the end of the video? Or does the crying part clinch it?

What if you didn't hear him crying at the end? Would you still feel the same way about it as you do now?
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Valuable lesson learned regarding what people are capable of...but DAMN my heart broke when he started crying. Even if he was trying to glitch, I don't understand how anyone with an ounce of empathy could hear that and not feel for him.

Honest question I suddenly got curious about.

Do you all feel this issue would have sparked as much attention as it has without the little boy crying at the end of the video? Or does the crying part clinch it?

What if you didn't hear him crying at the end? Would you still feel the same way about it as you do now?
I felt bad for him beforehand, but in that old-school Jamaican dad "if you won't learn, you'll feel" type of emotion. That crying just cinched it.
 

gatti-man

Member
Believe it or not, there was a case of a young boy, not even a teen, with a toy gun, that police gunned and people in the comment sections on news media sites were mainly blaming the parent for letting the kid have a toy gun. The police officer obviously had enough training and sense to know how to handle that situation better.

On the Internet there is a defense force for anything. I am pretty shocked on a gaming website you would see this much division on blatant trolling and coercion of a child from a grown man.
 
LOL, c'mon dude. I watched GAF's autorefresh update your post from "don't pay to glitch" to "it don't pay to glitch" because I was about to quote you and say the same thing that Seventy70 did.

Ok, so you tell me how I would have known that. I'm not a mind reader man. I can't possibly know if he read it before or after I submitted the edit. Also, the version he quoted had the correct wording. So when he read it, it was worded correctly.
 

joecanada

Member
I was schooled like this so many times as a kid, and grew up watching gaming gods like Shawn Elliott prank the crap out of people of all ages. This is harmless, and funny. too much Internet white knights in here

trolling vids are funny and stuff, but this isn't any more funny than when a guy goes in and wrecks a little kids minecraft world that he spent hundreds of hours on.

if I went up to a kid and smashed his models that he built it wouldn't be funny either, this is just a different hobby and to a little kid it's very important.

there's a distinction between trolling vids like teamkilling or wrecking nascar and bullying kids.
 
Honest question I suddenly got curious about.

Do you all feel this issue would have sparked as much attention as it has without the little boy crying at the end of the video? Or does the crying part clinch it?

What if you didn't hear him crying at the end? Would you still feel the same way about it as you do now?

The crying part brought it home for a lot of people in this thread. It is the moment that humanizes the situation, they are forced to realize that there is an actual human child on the other end.
 

Vitor711

Member
Willful ignorance and resignation that it occupies the child's time. Seriously, there are some people that ask me about a game their kid should play, I tell them it is rated for 17 and older and they still buy it and let the kids play and chat online unsupervised.

Eh, apparently the 'strangers' were friends of friends who he'd regularly played with previously. That shit is bound to happen eventually.

Still, it's a crummy thing to do to a kid, especially when you're that invested in a game.I hope Bungie add his characters back and gift him a free exotic or two.

Doesn't matter if he was trying to glitch, so what? Destiny's levelling system is awful anyway.
 

gatti-man

Member
I think you are overlooking that there should also be consequences for the kid too, of which I think we can all agree there have been. He learned a valuable lesson the hard way. I'm not saying the guy that did it isn't scum, but the child isn't completely free of blame here either.

He's an 11 year old child. Really think about that. Hes 11. What consequences should there really be? If Bungie is able they should give him back his stuff. If not then ok the kid lost out. Regardless the child already learned his lesson in that moment of heart break.
 

Sane_Man

Member
Wonder how many of the derp lesson learned crowd in here applauded the recent story of stranger danger that occurred with the planned kidnapping of a child.

I can just imagine the 'lesson learned' crowd seeing their five year-old kid falling over in the street and them dragging them back up screaming "Lesson learned, gravity bitch!!".
 

Freeman

Banned
This is why I don't like multiplayer, so many whiners. The kid got played, but the guy that deleted his characters din't hack the game or on anything, why are people asking for him to be banned? Bungie will likely get the characters back anyway. Abusing mechanics shouldn't be reason for a ban, design your game better next time.

His character got delete so what? If this was my kid I'd be much more concerned as to why hes streaming on the internet at his age.
 
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