Ninja Scooter
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For his commentary skills.
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Deadly Joker
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I won't because I'll be on vacation with no access to the internet. No sweat off my back missing Mania this year.
JesseEwiak
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For the same reason Vince signed various AWA & Mid-South guys, then used them as jobbers - because he could.
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Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I wonder how much money they would make if they stopped booking like the WWE and started booking like the WWF. Mainstream interest in sports entertainment is in the shitter. Maybe they should try doing professional wrestling again.
Ninja Scooter
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It's a risk they might not be able to take. They have been banking on the one audience that has been a constant throughout their existence (kids). Trying to ditch that and go after young adults with an "edgier" show might (and in my opinion would) blow up in their faces.
Actually they lost more money in the last year than they have since the mid 90s slump. That's with extreme cost cutting and downsizing of their workforce.
sf2fanatic
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So what you guys think about the Joe situation?
UberTag
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Why would Vince do something different? Clearly it is the fans who are wrong.
There's not much of a situation. He's leaving a company that is irrelevant and can now work for promotions that are relevant and make a lot of money. Good for him.
Dat globalization
He'll go over to Japan, join Bullet Club and then do the rounds on the indie circuit.
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Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
It doesn't need to be edgier, it just needs to be booked properly. Kids loved the Rock 'n' Wrestling era and it was booked like a wrestling show. Sure, it was flashier, but it was still classic professional wrestling booking.
Well, look at the comic industry. For years, it's been actively catering to its existing, adult audience to the exclusion of new readers. It's become the snake eating its own tail and now has to resort to an endless parade of "shock value" moments to temporarily boost sales.
The Attitude era was a punctuated shift in tone, necessary to compete with WCW. It's not a long-term strategy, and it's certainly not conducive to cultivating a younger audience.
JesseEwiak
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I meant making as in money in. Yeah, they're losing money 'cause of the costs of the Network and all, but the actual cash flowing in over the past 4 or 5 years is more than at any time than the 00-01 peak.
ShadowsFell
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Bray's about to get Punk'd.
Shit you're been Roman himself all along haven't you
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thepotatoman
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What's wrong with being a Twilight fan?
UberTag
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Ziggler losing in the opening match doesn't matter all that much. It was a nothing contest barely fit for an episode of Smackdown. They're still pushing Big Show's KO punch so having him sell it makes sense. His push can at least be rehabilitated somewhat if they go back to that D.Brine-Ziggler match they talked about after the Rumble and give them 12-15 minutes to dance at Mania.
As for Ambrose, he's 0-8 as a singles wrestler on PPV through little fault of his own. He's simply not a guy they plan to elevate. Best hope for him is a heel turn and a feud with Reigns after he wins the title. (Although he would still lose those matches.)
darkside31337
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Still wouldn't even be as bad as him getting buried by Cena this time last year.
ShadowsFell
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I don't know. At least Cena is still an active wrestler. But it's awful too, he doesn't need to go over in that situation. It was really crappy to see it last year. Bray has so much talent.
I honestly don't know where they go with Bray/Taker. I don't think you can have Taker job 2 Manias in a row, but Bray losing back to back Manias, even against legends, isn't helping him whatsoever. What major feud has Bray won besides Bryan (and we all know WWE couldn't care less about booking Bryan strongly)?
ShadowsFell
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He's floating around the same abyss as dean Ambrose.
Seth Rollins is actually being treated and pushed fairly well.
Oh yeah, I guess he won the Ambrose feud, although they've booked Ambrose like dog shit for a solid 9 months so that feud didn't really matter all that much.
I can't believe how we never got a real resolution to Seth betraying his brothers and joining the Authority. Botched the fuck out of that storyline too.
Officerrob
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Their audience has been and continues to be mostly men in their 30's
Vestal
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It can work if the match is booked correctly. You can book a match were someone losses but comes out the winner, but I just don't know if Taker has the kind of match he had with Jeff Hardy back in the day left in him..
Although, I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt, since last Mania the fucker had a concussion.
blackaroni
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LAW is just terrible.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I couldn't sit through it, especially after that awful show. Ambrose desrves better. Brah was on fire late last summer. Then they killed his momentum after the movie. I buy him going into psychotic mode a bigger threat to Lesnar than a Roman Reigns dressed up in Columbine gear.
BoboBrazil
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Ambrose has it. Money in the ring and on the mic. Reigns is getting pushed soley for his look. They book him as this monster powerhouse dude and Ambrose is the same height as him.
The only good thing about it is the dave melzter parts.
Yeah, that's a problem. Dude is supposed to be a powerhouse but doesn't seem to be that strong in reality and struggles with some power moves.
I mean Rollins throwing guys into the corner looks as strong/stronger than Reigns.
ShadowsFell
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Precisely. He was the weakest member of the shield by far, and that was obvious from the start. I'm talking in terms of mic/promo work. Not physical strength.Yeah, that's a problem. Dude is supposed to be a powerhouse but doesn't seem to be that strong in reality and struggles with some power moves.
I mean Rollins throwing guys into the corner looks as strong/stronger than Reigns.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Exactly. And Dean has a great look, Renee Young fell in love with for God's sake.
Mr. Enigma
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Lesnar vs. Reigns is going to get massively shit on by the fans at WM.
ShadowsFell
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Deservedly so. Hopefully it happens. I imagine there will be much orchestration to get things right beforehand, so I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't completely abysmal, but Reigns isn't good, and I don't think Brock can carry a match with someone like Roman.
That is salt.
I honestly would not be surprised if Lesnar stays, destroys Reigns, destroys Bryan, and destroys Orton en route to WM 32. You would have Lesnar break Punk's record for title reign, and it would break the crowd's mind if Lesnar won again.
You do mean Daniel Bryan, right? Because I'm sure Bryan is the one who has beaten Cena, HHH, Orton, Batista, Sheamus clean, stopped the Shield's dominance during their heel run, and had he beaten Lesnar & Reigns - would basically have no one left to face in WWE. (It's the reason they have to hold off on Bryan's run; they need to build more opponents for him)
TV ratings for individual shows are down 30+% as a whole. Agent Carter is doing 1.8s, for example.
That's what you guys basically are. You're Twilight fans. Take some time and reflect on that.
...legit shook.
bean breath
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I think the threat of/or actual cash in of the MITB by Seth Rollins will quell any sort of negative reaction at the end of the match.
Don't worry, we will.
Vestal
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Salt shit is getting old.
I would love for Lesnar to destroy everyone in his path. That SOB is that entertaining!
Has Reigns ever used the full guard ground 'n pound elbows or Matt Hughes arm bar power bomb moves before?
With the superman punch, he should just go full MMA arsenal and make that his schtick. It would at least set him more apart from the standard roster and give him a bunch more moves to work with that look 'strong'.
The GnP looked good in particular. Like he actually cared.
With the superman punch, he should just go full MMA arsenal and make that his schtick. It would at least set him more apart from the standard roster and give him a bunch more moves to work with that look 'strong'.
The GnP looked good in particular. Like he actually cared.
TimeEffect
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But I still dont want Reigns to be the guy that beats Lesnar.
Lesnar's dominance is so special. Everything's been perfect about it, and to give it to Reigns is just gross.
Lesnar getting cashed in on is perfect. But having Reigns win and then lose is just awful, and will get shit on, because it's not about the title, it's about who gets to face and maybe beat Lesnar.
It's like the closest thing to Taker's streak we have now-- something built specially well over a good period of time that should have a sensible payoff. Giving that to Roman is never going to come off as genuine.
Deadly Joker
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I'm expecting a full highjacking. Lots of Daniel Bryan and CM Punk chants unfortunately.
ShadowsFell
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I'm expecting that Roman Reigns' toughest feud will be with a microphone.
excelsiorlef
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Clear pin missed. CONTROVERSY. Triple threat at Mania. 4 way when you add Axel.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who noticed.
Clear pin missed. CONTROVERSY. Triple threat at Mania. 4 way when you add Axel.
I actually thought the same thing when that happened.
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