Wasn't as bad this episode to be honest.
They're much more tolerable when they're just friends flirting with each other.
ARROW Season 3 |OT| Welcome to the New Age
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Wasn't as bad this episode to be honest.
They're much more tolerable when they're just friends flirting with each other.
Wiktor
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I'm still wondering what exactly Thea did after her fight with Oliver this season, where she just jumped off the balcony to escape. What did she grab onto?!
What flirting? She was totally cool, and he was totally...despondent. :lol
Coffee Dog
Banned
The idea of Ollie still trying to save merlyn makes sense from a character perspective.
What doesn't is that nobody else has killed him yet. Thea should have.
What doesn't is that nobody else has killed him yet. Thea should have.
Discotheque
Banned
As much as I love barrowman in this show so many problems with this season would be solved if somebody just put a damn arrow through his heart already.
edit: or at least prison. why the fuck would oliver take him back to thea's home? he has a whole island prison to drop this fool off at.
Discotheque
Banned
cupid...stupid
ha, everything about the set-up is pretty weird. Is Thea just walking around, drinking wine, all day while he's laid out on the couch? Who dressed him? Is Thea actually getting him soup?
Dumb questions I admit, but it's just a bizarre scenario.
Merlyn outright said that if Oliver sent him there, Malcolm would escape with ease.
There's only one way to deal with Merlyn. But Oliver won't allow it. And everyone else respects him enough not to go through with it. Until Oliver has Diggle do it between seasons, and then Diggle fucks off to Oa.
Wiktor
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He's beaten up, not crippled. He was standing on his own legs while leaving Namba Parbat
Jorok Goldblade
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Take him to Central City and dump him in the Pipeline.
This tells me they knew exactly where Starling City was in the first two seasons, until they panicked after the 600 mile line in Flash (since Central City has a fixed, canon location) and changed it. Seattle is a pretty good analogue for Starling City in every requirement except the "600 miles from Central City" part. In fact, Star City was replaced with Seattle in the New 52.
Or we could just say that Starling City, Central City, and Smallville's Metropolis are all Vancouver.
BKatastrophe
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Fuck Roy, get your shit together. Falling off of rafters. Missing. Shit. The look on his face when he hit the crate...that was some shit. And Ra's, baby, green is not your color.
My girl's comin back!
I was watching the promo for next week, who's this?
My girl's comin back!
broncobuster
Banned
It bothered me how everybody forgot the League of Assassins helped save the city against Slade. Ra's should've thrown that in Ollie's face.
Wiktor
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AFAIR Supergirl is filmed in LA. They are even reusing some Lois and Clark sets
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Totally.
Nabs
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It's always Boston to me.
I would hope so. I don't think I can take another season of this. There are other dark and somewhat dreary shows out there but they make a point to counter that with other elements on the show. Supernatural has humor and sometimes just outright comedic episodes mixed in with the death, demons, etc even when things are ultra serious. A good mix of day and night time scenes. Gotham too is dark and gritty at times but can be crazy and very funny a lot of the time. Arrow hasn't had that balance and it's getting tiring as a result when it doesn't have to be.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Sorry it and Laurel's law office were destroyed in the Undertaking.
BKatastrophe
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To be fair, they only did it because of Sara. Sara isn't alive anymore and has no pull.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I thought Central City was on the Great Lakes? The way the harbor is set up doesn't make me think ocean coastal.
Septimus Prime
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is exactly his plan, which will lead directly into the
"I got you now, you son of a bitch,"
I don't see why he needs to do this personally, though, when he has a bevy of Dark Archers that he can just paint green.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Ras is basically going to make his prophecy to Oliver come true. Ruin his reputation in the city so bad that the police and city at large have no choice but to turn against him.
Wiktor
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Yeah. Papa Ra's doesn't have patience for destiny to run it's course, he will make it move it's ass
Wiktor
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Because if there's one thing this show has taught us is that putting arrows into people is very fun
Septimus Prime
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You know, if Firestorm or Weather Wizard pretended to be Arrow, I don't know if anyone would be able to tell it's not Ollie.Because if there's one thing this show has taught us is that putting arrows into people is very fun
Uno Venova
Banned
I don't see any downsides for Ollie being the new Ras other than his friends not liking it.
Because if there's one thing this show has taught us is that putting arrows into people is very fun
This just falls into line with the comics where Ra's so blatantly wants to be Batman it hurts.
Besides, if Ra's is as old as the show implies why the Hell wouldn't he want a change of scenery? It certainly beats being called a slag, threatening to banish Nyssa, and remembering that day when he asked Batman to lead the LOA and Batman beat Ra's like a child AND took his daughter Talia, then dumped Talia, simply to say to Ra's.
'Fuck off back to Nando's, Ray me old son.'
TheGreatDirector
Banned
I'm really liking Ra's in this episode. He has such a mystical aura to him as if he's completely removed from the world.
I actually didn't mind much of the drama in this episode between characters. It all played out logically rather than random changes of character. Laurel and Nyassa forming a bond is pretty cool and Roy and Thea are always cool to see together. It really does feel like Oliver is losing everyone though XD
I also feel really bad for Captain Lance. He's actively a better person now than he was before in his life but you can tell he's so far beyond just anger now. The two people he put trust in ultimately betrayed him and it's wrecking him. I have a feeling his arc is gonna be really good the rest of the season.
I actually didn't mind much of the drama in this episode between characters. It all played out logically rather than random changes of character. Laurel and Nyassa forming a bond is pretty cool and Roy and Thea are always cool to see together. It really does feel like Oliver is losing everyone though XD
I also feel really bad for Captain Lance. He's actively a better person now than he was before in his life but you can tell he's so far beyond just anger now. The two people he put trust in ultimately betrayed him and it's wrecking him. I have a feeling his arc is gonna be really good the rest of the season.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Ever see The Godfather?
Razgriz-Specter
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My biggest problem with this show right now is Ra's isn't a legitimate villain.
They keep saying he is so bad and stuff but they seriously haven't shown anything.
The Arrow costume thing is just stupid.
They keep saying he is so bad and stuff but they seriously haven't shown anything.
The Arrow costume thing is just stupid.
Wiktor
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He isn't a villain. His main goal is to recruit Oliver and he will do a lot to protect his life. At this point he's antagonist, not a villain. Depending on hard he will push this might change, but for now he's just antagonist.
Personally I love it. After two straight up psychotic mad men Ra's is like a breath of fresh air, THis portrayal of him is also more interesti than "crazy terrorist" angle that exists in comics
Razgriz-Specter
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That is fine but you can't push him as a villain as they have been because there is nothing there,
The whole Merlyn(an actual villain who killed 500+ innocent people on screen) team-up thing to kill Ra's(who has literally done nothing but fight Oliver who challenged him claiming he killed Sara), its just ruining this show for me.
Was so excited that first episode they mentioned Ra's name, had no idea it would end up being a major part of the thing that is destroying my love of the show.
Miles Quaritch
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Damn, Roy held his own against Nyssa. Boy's got some skill!
Whoa, the lazarus pit is real! Damn. Didn't see that one coming...figured they'd keep that out and go with something else to explain Ra's age.
So, why in the blue hell didn't Ollie take the role of Ra's and change the league so they'd become a non lethal but still powerful organisation? What the hell? Is he ass stupid? His reasoning for not taking it is so bloody stupid, I just can't make any sense of it. The fuck...
Nyssa and Laurel - good to see Laurel is about to finally get some proper training.
Chesthair rightly bringing the truth bombs That was a really fucked up thing they did, they absolutely need to called on it.
Arsenal is looking pretty fucking badass right now. I love how his outfit is decked out with weaponry. Man, I'd love to see a spin off with him, Artimis, Chesire and Sportsmaster instead of that other spin off they have planned...which sounds terrible the more we hear about it.
Ra's as the Arrow was hilarious. Come the fuck on...
Whoa, the lazarus pit is real! Damn. Didn't see that one coming...figured they'd keep that out and go with something else to explain Ra's age.
So, why in the blue hell didn't Ollie take the role of Ra's and change the league so they'd become a non lethal but still powerful organisation? What the hell? Is he ass stupid? His reasoning for not taking it is so bloody stupid, I just can't make any sense of it. The fuck...
Nyssa and Laurel - good to see Laurel is about to finally get some proper training.
Chesthair rightly bringing the truth bombs That was a really fucked up thing they did, they absolutely need to called on it.
Arsenal is looking pretty fucking badass right now. I love how his outfit is decked out with weaponry. Man, I'd love to see a spin off with him, Artimis, Chesire and Sportsmaster instead of that other spin off they have planned...which sounds terrible the more we hear about it.
Ra's as the Arrow was hilarious. Come the fuck on...
Septimus Prime
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You know how some people will refuse a promotion to management level because they're afraid to screw up managing a staff instead of being hands-on and only responsible for their own work? That's Oliver Queen. The guy won't even run Queen Consolidated, which basically runs itself. Why would he take on directing an international secret organization such as the League of Assassins?
Just_myles
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Guy has no resolve, yet. I still don't like entertaining the idea of Ollie ever being Ras. I'm having a hard time with this.
Miles Quaritch
Member
He can't forever take the back seat. He's already a leader to Arsenal, Diggle and BC, he should put that to use and apply the same skills to running the LoA.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
When Arrowverse introduced "The Glades" I always thought of the Florida Everglades and interpreted Starling as somewhere in Florida.
I always interpreted Gotham as Detroit and Bludhaven as Cleveland
Caught up with this show.
Damn, Arrow is the very definition of "dumb fun", underlining the word "dumb".
Don't think i'd be able to stomach it if i weren't making fun of it a lot while watching, but even if it started almost as a joke, i guess i got attached to the characters over time.
Sure the action is often goofy, and the writing is laughable most of the time, but the most annoying thing is how things constantly spin in circle, probably to favor a 24 episodes cycle.
Every episode the characters have some great epiphany moment with corny monologue attached, and yet they're back in the same spot every other week.
Also, those flashbacks, i don't know how y'all feel about them, but to me they're just annoying time wasting, and especially goofy ever since they were set in Hong Kong.. those costumes, and that music, lol.
So far my favorite characters are Malcolm Merlyn, because i like the actor's theatrical demeanor, and Roy, 'cause 9 times out of 10 he's getting his ass kicked, and looks like a sad puppy the rest of the times, being tossed around by everyone.
Also wanted to chime in on the Oliver/Felicity thing, although i generally don't give a shit about shipping in TV shows, these two just don't fit AT ALL together, when they made Oliver confess his love, however many episodes back, i was like "ugh, what?".
Completely felt like a knee jerk reaction to some fandom nonsense.
But that's fine 'cause it adds to the show's "awful charm".
Just like everyone pretends Oliver's mother was some sort of martyr when she basically got 500 people killed, and was rambling about some "job creators" bullshit.
Or how everyone and their mother gets to be a masked hero/villain and is going to come back from the dead at some point.
i should clarify that i'm not a super hero fan, so most of those deep lore references are probably flying over my head.
And Ra's dressed as Arrow? Oh yeah lol, more of that!
Damn, Arrow is the very definition of "dumb fun", underlining the word "dumb".
Don't think i'd be able to stomach it if i weren't making fun of it a lot while watching, but even if it started almost as a joke, i guess i got attached to the characters over time.
Sure the action is often goofy, and the writing is laughable most of the time, but the most annoying thing is how things constantly spin in circle, probably to favor a 24 episodes cycle.
Every episode the characters have some great epiphany moment with corny monologue attached, and yet they're back in the same spot every other week.
Also, those flashbacks, i don't know how y'all feel about them, but to me they're just annoying time wasting, and especially goofy ever since they were set in Hong Kong.. those costumes, and that music, lol.
So far my favorite characters are Malcolm Merlyn, because i like the actor's theatrical demeanor, and Roy, 'cause 9 times out of 10 he's getting his ass kicked, and looks like a sad puppy the rest of the times, being tossed around by everyone.
Also wanted to chime in on the Oliver/Felicity thing, although i generally don't give a shit about shipping in TV shows, these two just don't fit AT ALL together, when they made Oliver confess his love, however many episodes back, i was like "ugh, what?".
Completely felt like a knee jerk reaction to some fandom nonsense.
But that's fine 'cause it adds to the show's "awful charm".
Just like everyone pretends Oliver's mother was some sort of martyr when she basically got 500 people killed, and was rambling about some "job creators" bullshit.
Or how everyone and their mother gets to be a masked hero/villain and is going to come back from the dead at some point.
i should clarify that i'm not a super hero fan, so most of those deep lore references are probably flying over my head.
And Ra's dressed as Arrow? Oh yeah lol, more of that!
I'd love Arrow to get good again. Dunno if it was always this average or if it's just more obvious since The Flash is consistently great.
Every episode of Arrow seems the same, they have the same angsty arguments, the flashbacks all seem to revolve around running through the same crowded market, they have a short action bit in the middle where the bad guys escape, Felicity googles the bad guys leading to another action sequence at the end where they win with various bickering in between.
I think the main thing this series is missing is any kind of serious threat. Ras doesn't want to kill Oliver, the flashbacks are just Oliver and co being chased by guys in suits and we can already assume that it ends with the kid dying.
Every episode of Arrow seems the same, they have the same angsty arguments, the flashbacks all seem to revolve around running through the same crowded market, they have a short action bit in the middle where the bad guys escape, Felicity googles the bad guys leading to another action sequence at the end where they win with various bickering in between.
I think the main thing this series is missing is any kind of serious threat. Ras doesn't want to kill Oliver, the flashbacks are just Oliver and co being chased by guys in suits and we can already assume that it ends with the kid dying.
Septimus Prime
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Part of the problem, I think, is that Team Arrow is too good at what it does now, such that no threat feels credible anymore. Oliver is a stronger fighter than everyone; he can even kick the crap out of Merlyn and Deathstroke whenever he feels like it now, and Felicity is more clever than anyone. No matter who the villains are, there's no out-of-the-box thinking required. Felicity finds them; Oliver beats them up. End.
Meanwhile, the only character who can beat Oliver doesn't really want to right now.
LumpOfCole
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Season 4 should be Team Batman be Team Arrow
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Yeah that is definitely is a major fault the show has. Other than killing off a character I have no idea how they'll be able to bring in a villain on the level of Ra's again.
Prometheus is the only one I can think of considering he is basically evil Batman. Other than that, when you have 3 vigilantes plus one special forces officer that you can cal on to tackle a crime at any time, you really are reaching for any credible threats(as this week's episode with Murmur easily showed).
Septimus Prime
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I think they need metahumans, too. I mean, you can have someone like Prometheus or Owlman or whatever as the main story arc villain, but the villains of the week need to step it up, too. Having all the fighting skill in the world isn't going to help against someone like Weather Wizard or The Mist. They'd finally have to incorporate the whole team against that type of enemy.
Felicity needs a nerf or something, too. She should not be able to solve in 2 minutes a problem that Ray fucking Palmer cannot in 2 weeks.
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