Yes. It's very good and there's extra stages after you beat it.
NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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Yes. It's very good and there's extra stages after you beat it.
blast processed
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Absolutely, it's a great game. It has some creative puzzles.
D.Lo
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The Twin Turbo has longer controllers, it's one of the black models, with green highlights. Shorter than NES, but longer than Fami. Think 'Sega' length.
Yes the external port has access to all functions of both controllers on all Famicom models.
Honestly if you want hassle free, AV Fami is the winner. Use any NES OR any Famicom controller, whatever cord length you like, no extra adapters required (I actually use an NES controller board inside a Famicom controller shell
). Best build quality, solid as a rock. Easiest to install NESRGB, with no externally visible modification.You are correct, but his pattern is not too difficult to detect. One problem I had for a long time is that I thought the boomerang was the best weapon. Even Nintendo Power recommended it against Dracula.
Honestly if you want hassle free, AV Fami is the winner. Use any NES OR any Famicom controller, whatever cord length you like, no extra adapters required (I actually use an NES controller board inside a Famicom controller shell
Are the only controllers with mics P2 controllers attached to the console themselves? Are there any 1st or 3rd party controllers that will work on an AV Famicom and let me play through Zelda no Desetsu?
I scored a ridiculous deal from a friend's suggestion on the Neo-Geo forums, of all places. AV Fami, Windy Gaming refurbished FDS, and a handful of games like a boxed Otocky (!!!) for a damned good price.
I was trying not to mention anything until I got it in the mail so as not to jinx it, but here we are.
RoryDropkick
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Pretty excited, I just ordered the NESRGB so I can have my AV Famicom modded. All of those pictures everyone has been posting sent me over the edge.
sixteen-bit
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when or if?
RoryDropkick
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I'd have to go with if.
Like... why? Just why? And I'm sure the "reviews" are going to be sites like The Verge and Kotaku, and they'll gush over the "design" and "Oh it's so much easier with HDMI." Nobody who actually knows what's up with the Fami / NES has the platform to produce that scale of review, so you're basically going to be overpaying for the Beats equivalent of an RGB'd NES. Except minus original hardware.
I mean, if you're into this stuff, spare yourself the ridicule you'll get flashing it around either to collectors in person or online. You can do it right without too much trouble right now, you know?
RadarScope1
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Guh. Now I'm thinking about getting some FC games. Is a converter the most sensible way to go? I might even look at making one from a cannobalized NES cart. Seems like a cool project.
dcx4610
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I grew up with the NES so it's my favorite system of all time. My front loader isn't reliable and I don't have room for a CRT monitor.
I have the Famicom version of the Everdrive N8 so my options are getting an AV Famicom and having it modded for RGB which would probably end up being about $300 total. The Analogue being the 2nd option which has more options and potentially better quality but $500.
I just don't know yet. If the Analogue was $300 it would be much easier to swallow. $500 is pretty ridiculous but if it turns out to be the best of the best, I would consider it. I'm also keeping my eye on the HDMI NES from bunnyboy at NintendoAge. It is due later this year and will supposedly use the original hardware and be much more affordable. The test images look delicious...
As a kid I found the cross was good for the first half, but useless for the second. I always felt like there was a reason the Holy Water was in the room. By jove, in my early 20s, when I sat down to finally beat Dracula, I learned that I was right.
I grew up with the NES so it's my favorite system of all time. My front loader isn't reliable and I don't have room for a CRT monitor.
I have the Famicom version of the Everdrive N8 so my options are getting an AV Famicom and having it modded for RGB which would probably end up being about $300 total. The Analogue being the 2nd option which has more options and potentially better quality but $500.
I just don't know yet. If the Analogue was $300 it would be much easier to swallow. $500 is pretty ridiculous but if it turns out to be the best of the best, I would consider it. I'm also keeping my eye on the HDMI NES from bunnyboy at NintendoAge. It is due later this year and will supposedly use the original hardware and be much more affordable. The test images look delicious...
If you do an rgb AV famicom and an xrgb mini, you'll have a ton more options in the future though. Plus, since the Analogue isn't real Nintendo hardware, it might not run your Everdrive.
dcx4610
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It's real Nintendo hardware on a custom board. PowerPak and Everdrive are confirmed working.
I'd rather hold off on HDMI NES. We'll see what happens.
When does something stop becoming one thing and become another though? If someone has the heart and lungs of a donor, are they the donor or the receiver? Heck, even if a brain transplant occurred? These guys are harvesting parts and putting them in the shell of something else.
Plus, is there any confirmation of compatibility by someone other than the guy who wants to sell it? Has anyone even seen this thing running?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I believe the point is that it's not a clone or a NES on a chip. It will necessarily run all NES/Famicom games and there's almost no chance that it won't.
My issue is that it's a fugly shell... I'd take an RGB NES or Famicom any day of the week.
Get an xrgb mini instead of getting one of those dumb things. XRGB-mini will have the better scaler and you could use it with multiple systems. You'll spend practically the same amount of money and you won't have the chance to have buyer's remorse later if you want to hook up other retro systems via HDMI.
sixteen-bit
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Any ETA on blinking light win?
baphomet
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It's definitely not "real" hardware.
It uses the same cpu and ppu, but the board is definitely not real hardware.
I'm also keeping my eye on the HDMI NES from bunnyboy at NintendoAge. It is due later this year and will supposedly use the original hardware and be much more affordable. The test images look delicious...
Is there an info dump somewhere about all the expected features of this?
Another HDMI mod is in development called Hi-Def NES by a guy affiliated with the game-tech moder. It has a lot of features for expanded audio, scan lines, over clocking with correct audio speed, and an in depth menu with a lot of options. They're aiming for 150 or less for the cost of hardware.
Will this affect accuracy?
I use a converter to play on my US NES. You'll have to mod the NES and the converter to be able to get the extra sound channels on games that use them, but there aren't that many of them luckily. And it seems like a very easy mod anyway. For everything else it works great.
The converter I use doesn't seem to have a lockout chip though, so I had to region mod my NES to play Famicom games on it. I had planned to do that anyway so I didn't mind, but it's something to consider.
RadarScope1
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I'm not worried about the sound channels. I just want kind of an "entry level" way to play. Taking an board from a five-screw NES cart and making my own adapter seems like the best route, though buying a knock off adapter from ebay would be easier.
Chittagong
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Yeah best wait until we see if it's real.
At this point, their reluctance to show any footage despite claiming it ships 'in April' is a pretty big red flag to me. I fully expect April to come and them to announce the fifth delay to 'summer' without showing any more proof of the device existing.
I have mine preordered and paid it in full fwiw.
D.Lo
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To be fair, it's much much closer to real hardware than all these horrible emulator boxes like Retrongs, or crappy Raspberry Pi emulation etc.
Sure, but it is also orders of magnitude more expensive than any emulator box.
D.Lo
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Absolutely, but if the options were Analogue NT, Raspberry Pi and Retron, even at their price points, I would choose Analogue NT since the others are complete garbage.
Luckily however there is a third option which is vastly superior to both and much cheaper than ANT - real Nintendo hardware + Evil Tim.
IrishNinja
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It is due later this year and will supposedly use the original hardware and be much more affordable. The test images look delicious...
really don't like this much at all, to be honest
it's the kinda overly-sharp image i'd expect from emulator filters, which is fine & not to knock it but looking at it my brain just says there's so much going wrong here is all
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
With scanlines it might be fine. But yup.. I don't really want that kind of image at all.
D.Lo
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Looks like The Game Boy Color version. Chunky solid too-rich colour.
D.Lo
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Oh wow I was always interested in Risa, one of the first ever dating sims I believe? Or is it an adventure?
RadarScope1
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Agreed. I know most of these machines have or will have image output options but I just don't like the look seen here.
You're right, I think. It's still better than emulation.
But yeah, thank sweet Nicholas Cage we can have actual hardware. I really need to have my AV Famicom RGB'd; it is in the most dire need of a better image. My PCE puts out far better composite. Heck, the Duo R puts out composite so good, I wouldn't know it wasn't RGB unless I saw the slight color crawl when the screen moves.
kunonabi
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Risa is an adventure game. No real dating sim elements to it. It's fun albeit a tad simplistic. Much better than dead zone though.
I have reservations about the NES RGB mod, let alone the Analogue NT. To me, NES RGB mod is bordering on emulation already in a way that N64 RGB mod doesn't.
Personally, I'll take an NES via composite with sharpness turned down to zero on my PVM any day over that sharp-ass upscale:
I could totally understand the RGB mod and am tempted to get it done myself. It's sort of like NES-perfected.
However, in contrast, I don't see why you wouldn't just emulate if you want the sharp picture at 1080p via HDMI that Analogue NT offers. It's like taking an NES and turning it into something it truly was never meant to do.
Personally, I'll take an NES via composite with sharpness turned down to zero on my PVM any day over that sharp-ass upscale:
I could totally understand the RGB mod and am tempted to get it done myself. It's sort of like NES-perfected.
However, in contrast, I don't see why you wouldn't just emulate if you want the sharp picture at 1080p via HDMI that Analogue NT offers. It's like taking an NES and turning it into something it truly was never meant to do.
Huggers
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How so? This seems like an odd differentiation
The NESRGB mod is nothing like emulation. Its a small hardware swap to make the picture better. Emulation is more like an approximation of what the experience was like. Everything is done in software, and it isn't perfect.
I just wanna close out my personal notes on Zen Intergalactic Ninja, as a friend and I plowed through it last night. The hardest level is not the isometric level (that one is actually quite fun once you get the groove), it's the stupid Save the Firemen level. It's just really poorly balanced and not a lot of fun.
The game is really weird after you finish the four selectable levels. It's like they had plans for a longer more fleshed out game and they were told to kind of wrap it up, as the levels just kind of come at you quickly and with no explanation after that.
It's not a bad game, though I still think it's kind of forgettable and I don't think it's worth its price compared to better stuff out there.
The game is really weird after you finish the four selectable levels. It's like they had plans for a longer more fleshed out game and they were told to kind of wrap it up, as the levels just kind of come at you quickly and with no explanation after that.
It's not a bad game, though I still think it's kind of forgettable and I don't think it's worth its price compared to better stuff out there.
I love my NESRGB and is the reason why my Twin Famicom gets hardly any use. I can appreciate that people like the composite look, but you need to experience a rgb nes to really appreciate what tims board does. Its astonishing.
I wouldnt class it as emulation. It converts already grenerated data from the nes PPU into rgb.. and does an awesome job of it.
If anyone if interested to see what any nes games look like in RGB i have an everdrive so am more then happy to take some photos of any requested titles. Not too many mind. Dont wanna spam and clog this thread up with pics.
I wouldnt class it as emulation. It converts already grenerated data from the nes PPU into rgb.. and does an awesome job of it.
If anyone if interested to see what any nes games look like in RGB i have an everdrive so am more then happy to take some photos of any requested titles. Not too many mind. Dont wanna spam and clog this thread up with pics.
Huggers
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I'm getting mine soon Bancho. We'll have a pic off!
https://twitter.com/Hedgeyy/status/580005338084065280
Bought a twin famicom today!
It was 5,400 at Hard Off.
Of course the Disc System doesn't work, but the belt replacement doesn't seem overly complicated, just time consuming so I bit the bullet.
Unfortunately no AC adapter. I watched a video of a guy saying a PSone adapter would work fine but you need an adapter for the adapter. Anyone have any recommendations?
Bought a twin famicom today!
It was 5,400 at Hard Off.
Of course the Disc System doesn't work, but the belt replacement doesn't seem overly complicated, just time consuming so I bit the bullet.
Unfortunately no AC adapter. I watched a video of a guy saying a PSone adapter would work fine but you need an adapter for the adapter. Anyone have any recommendations?
I use a psone adapter for mine. Just chopped the end off and solder on correct size plug.
I'd be a bit scared to do that haha looking at picking this up: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00IL7XBRI/
The NES RGB mod's color palette options are based on the Nintendulator NES emulator and FCEUX emulator. Based on the extent of the mod, it also offers a simple pass through to output the original composite signal (so no harm no foul if you want to see the precise original source material).
In contrast, N64's RGB mod (from what I understand) is purely mechanical in nature, and is simply outputting the native image in RGB-quality.
For most, it's a distinction without a difference. For me, it makes a slight difference that I'm seeing the best possible judgment of what the author of an emulator thought NES games should look like.