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Pillars of Eternity Beta - Torment: Tides of the Beetles
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We are certainly in a revival period. Torment is up next.
Well there is no companion rogue, barbarian or monk. So there's that. Plus rogues are the best single target damage dealer.
Maybe edge cases where there are specific dialogue options for a certain class. I think most or all other checks can be based off of anyone in the party.
Regarding rogue specifically,
it's one of the few classes without a companion. So if you want to play with five companions and want a rogue it'll be your only way to do so.
Shake Appeal
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Put lots of points into Might and Intellect, everything else is secondary. Constitution and Perception are effectively worthless.
You could make viable builds that don't do this, but this by far is the most obvious approach for a spellcaster.
The only classes I've seen affect dialogue options so far are Priests and Paladins. And even then you have to worship a certain god/be apart of a certain order to qualify for the dialogue options
(If anyone who has actually played the game can comment on other classes affecting dialogue, please say so I'm curious too)
Depends on how you define "good". The prevailing wisdom seems to be to pump MIG (damage) and INT (+duration +aoe radius) for just about any damage dealing class. More of one stat or the other depending on if you want to specialize in AoE or single target damage.
water_wendi
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Pillars of Eternity has finally knocked off Cities: Skylines and is now 2nd place on the Steam Charts. Rejoice!
Some Jensen Ackles antics are required:
It appears that Pillars has made the top spot now.
Ah okay, I don't care so much if don't get to have their combat stuff, it's more like... stealth, traps, lockpicking and such, but from what I read here mechanics like that can be learned by anyone?
All Skills that affect those things are class agnostic, Rogues just get the first ranks in it for free. Once you get to level 2 you can easily reach those ranks in any other class that didn't have them.
Oh cool, this is the first I've heard of someone picking thatBleak Walker Paladin boys
what Race & Background are you going for?
Correct. Rogues just have the highest profession bonus.
With regards to bugs, do we know if all the QA has been done in-house at Obsidian, or - similar to Skylines - have Paradox been allocating a lot of their own bug-squashing resources into PoE ahead of launch?
Oh, and I noticed several posters asking why the release day embargo on reviews. The reason given was specifically that this is a long and dense game, and that review copies went out pretty late, as close to final release build as possible, and that Paradox did not want reviewers to have to rush/force through this particular game in order to make embargo. That the game has been put out in the open already via streamers/LPers at least indicates Paradox having confidence in it and, I'd argue, gives credence to the reasoning offered above.
Oh, and I noticed several posters asking why the release day embargo on reviews. The reason given was specifically that this is a long and dense game, and that review copies went out pretty late, as close to final release build as possible, and that Paradox did not want reviewers to have to rush/force through this particular game in order to make embargo. That the game has been put out in the open already via streamers/LPers at least indicates Paradox having confidence in it and, I'd argue, gives credence to the reasoning offered above.
lmimmfn
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just preordered, have 0 experience with old skool CRPGs( no money at uni, got a console afterwards, did play Bards Tale back in the day lol ), any tips on how long i should spend creating a character? i normally play mage, any tips there?
Ive played and finished loads of JRPG's, Witcher 1,2, Da:O,2( rubbish ),Inquisition, but i just assumed with a CRPG character creation its more important.
Ive played and finished loads of JRPG's, Witcher 1,2, Da:O,2( rubbish ),Inquisition, but i just assumed with a CRPG character creation its more important.
Repeating, since I first mentioned it several days ago - the game is still reasonable hard, even on Normal. Hardcore IE players should do whatever they think is best, but for "typical" players, which is the category I put myself, I would recommend Normal.
I don't feel like I'm steamrolling everything, and still I wipe sometimes. But I also make steady progress without anything ever feeling too frustrating. If I ever forget to rest before a big fight or something I frequently need to re-load, because I can't get through tough fights with a half-prepared party.
YMMV. I like RPGs as much as the next guy but you might totally compose a more effective party than me. Maybe I'm just a scrub. But for me, Normal feels correct.
I don't feel like I'm steamrolling everything, and still I wipe sometimes. But I also make steady progress without anything ever feeling too frustrating. If I ever forget to rest before a big fight or something I frequently need to re-load, because I can't get through tough fights with a half-prepared party.
YMMV. I like RPGs as much as the next guy but you might totally compose a more effective party than me. Maybe I'm just a scrub. But for me, Normal feels correct.
The Technomancer
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And some people were wondering if everyone who wanted the game already backed it. No way it doesn't crack 500k lifetime, hell I'll be shocked if it doesn't make 1 million
Bleak Walker Paladin boys
I'm going with either a Bleak Walker Paladin or a Chanter.
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TrueMenace
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TrueMenace
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Watch Sensuki's YouTubre videos
https://youtu.be/JVhbWTDAbR4
https://youtu.be/GaCeUrG7Bc0
https://youtu.be/EoWw5swpfX0
The Technomancer
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Hooooooly shit
I've bought seven copies alone. And I'm not even talking about the backer codes I got.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Why am I not subbed to this?
PoweredBySoy
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Obsidian = bought
Better question, where is the OT? It was due T-Minus negative 6 hours ago.
lmimmfn
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Excellent, watching, thanks for that
Every couple of levels their unarmed damage scales.
Curiously I've seen two separate Moon/Ciphers playthroughs
Both Lets players where equally competent at playing the game, but one guy died 3 times to the same encounter 3 times then gave up
while the other guy easily finished the same encounter 1st time round while taking minimal damage
the only difference is the latter
took Antipathetic Field and wrecked with it
Useful, but not as devastating as it is against slow casters. By the looks of it one of the banes/annoyances of this game is going to be
ranged enemies with bows pew pew interrupting you
Murder. She Wrote
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Anyone else going Godlike? I'm always attracted to the unique races/classes so I can't resist picking it. I'm probably gonna be a Moon Cipher.
Intheflorsh
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How useful is interrupt against ordinary, melee enemies?
How many celebratory GIFs will the OP have?
Pretty sure the only people who say things like this are concern trolls that shit up every Kickstarter thread.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I just found out I'm apparently still supposed to do the OT.
I mean, I can, it's just that I thought I told them a while ago that I had second thoughts.
ah shit missed that. Sorry man
Edit: Warning, the Giant Bomb Quick Look is one of the more spoilerific videos I've seen of the game
MisterShine
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I'm feeling strongly attracted to a Death Godlike druid. Not sure what form to take though, sad that there's no batform.
I've been debating whether to watch the 1.5 hour long primer videos that were posted in the thread earlier since I'm not really familiar with D&D-like systems beyond playing BG1 in highschool at a friend's house, but it's a 1.5 hour long primer video and that seems excessive. How fine would I be with a cursory glance at the manual?
Jest Chillin
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I have zero experience with CRPGs but I'm very familiar with MMO's. My current understanding is that similar to MMO skill trees, it's more effective to focus your stat allocation rather than spreading your points but I'm wondering what the limiting threshold to that is.
Like would it be best to focus on just two stats (say Might and Dex) or would a three stat spread be viable?
Like would it be best to focus on just two stats (say Might and Dex) or would a three stat spread be viable?
So at what stage is the OT at the moment? I'm sure plenty of us here will be keen to help if need be.
HP_Wuvcraft
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ah shit missed that. Sorry man
Edit: Warning, the Giant Bomb Quick Look is one of the more spoilerific videos I've seen of the game
I'm starting it.
Well, an outline exists in one of my notebooks.
Manual is inaccurate and out of date, if you are going to check it out also read the errata
http://eternity.obsidian.net/game/manual-errata
Most Stat spreads are meant to be viable, just whatever you do don't dump a stat below 9
The in-game character creation tells you which Stats are 1st & 2nd priority for each class.
Snapshot King
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Can someone give me a quick breakdown of what stats are currently worthwhile? I keep seeing that perception and resolve are complete dump stats but I'm not sure why that's the case.
Yea I saw that but I assumed it would be updated for the Steam PDF version. I'll keep it mind though.
edit: welp even on the first page with attribute descriptions is out of date. Oh well, I'll refer to it as well I guess.
I guess the better question would be does weapons eventually output higher damage versus unarmed.
Jest Chillin
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Alright, cool. Appreciate the response!
Shake Appeal
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Got email. Checked products. Wept for still-missing almanac.
Perception is a Dump stat because its only viable if you are going a Melee/Ranged Interrupt build (Rather than pure DPS)
Resolve is not as much as a dump stat, Deflection & Concentration are very important, especially if you are a caster.
I'm really not sure. The best person to ask is TrueMenace, monks are a favourite of his.
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