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[Mothman91]

Some Nightmare of Mensis stuff...

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So I found out about the Mother brain and I didn't know about using the gesture to unlock the third tier Moon rune....fuuuuck. I looked it up and says it's at Upper Cahtedral Runes....which I didn't know even existed??

 

[meanspartan]

Have you been to the optional

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Nightmare Frontier?

Tgat place is even worse than that.

Not the greatest but also not annoyingly difficult. I got through it pretty fast and the boss there was a joke.

I hated Unseen Village because it wasn't great AND it was a difficulty spike.

 

[Imperfected]

Why is that? I thought it was a great fight.

Her slip-and-slide charge attack is pretty poorly put together (not telegraphed well enough for as dangerous as it is, doesn't seem to have very sound AI logic as to when it's used, way too large of a hitbox and/or fast for the amount of damage it does, etc.), and her orbital space lasers are pretty awful, too.

The mid-fight DoT that begins to apply is also especially bad; in addition to being just a generally pretty pointless and lame mechanic, it's especially telling that despite being a proximity-based DoT it isn't treated as a poison. Why? Because the designers don't want you to be able to equip yourself or use consumables intelligently to deal with it, presumably. Why would that be? Probably because they realized that this poor mechanic is the only thing besides the space laser that makes the end of the fight potentially difficult, and it would have been trivialized if it had been treated the way it should have been.

I mean, she's not the worst boss. Y

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harnam, Phtumerian Queen

and most of the other Chalice-unique bosses are worse, but presumably that's why they were cut from the main game despite being asset-complete. I'd also personally rate the S

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hadows of Yharnam

fight as being lower, simply because it's such a terribly dull "Dark Souls 2" sort of design. After spending that entire excessively-large zone building up snake as being the "thing" thematically, it was hard not to expect something way more interesting than that.

 

[dmr87]

I'm almost level 60, is that too low for amygdala? Keep getting curbstomped...

I'm 58 and just did that, 3-4 attempts.

 

[EatinOlives]

Threaded Cane is indeed the epitome of badassery. It is IMO the best weapon in Bloodborne. It has everything, and most importantly it has swagger.

It does! I remember a few people in the OT on launch day were trashing the cane left and right. But it's really a versatile weapon:

Cane form: Fast-n-furious. I can wail on people landing a longass combo without giving them a chance to retaliate. If it staggers them it essentially becomes a guaranteed kill. It's also very compact. I can fight in really tiny corridors and I don't run the risk of accidentally hitting walls or scenery.

Whip form: My default form. Not only is it badass and makes the game feel like what 3D Castlevania should've been all along, it's also the right combination of powerful and long-reaching. Yes, it doesn't have the longest reach in the game but you can still land attacks from a relatively safe distance if you know how to hit with just the tip of the whip. It's also fast enough that it chains well into combos if you interrupt their attacks.

 

[burgerdog]

I consider cheap to be anything that is unavoidable damage (like that field is) and something that is ambiguous (like the charging move with the absurd hitbox or the tentacles). It's not about something that is "bothersome" to me personally, I can deal with stuff like this.

I am not even saying this boss is that difficult. I beat her first time on the original walkthrough, beat her in two tries the 2nd time around (when she wasn't glitched) and then beat her without dying on 3rd walkthrough as well. In all those 3 fights I never really enjoyed the fight and whenever I got hit or got damaged it was due to one of those issues + those ridiculous tentacles. Eventually I just stopped staying close to her and fought her at a safe/long distance, waited for the head stomp and punished. It wasn't an exciting fight but it got the job done.

So it's not a matter of difficulty, it's a matter of design. Certainly not the worst boss design in the game.. but the boss fight definitely has some questionable mechanics involved.

The charge killed me a few times when I had clearly dodged the attack. Straight up bullshit.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

Not the greatest but also not annoyingly difficult. I got through it pretty fast and the boss there was a joke.

I hated Unseen Village because it wasn't great AND it was a difficulty spike.

Only trouble I had with Unseen Village was because of the

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three Hunters

. I died quite a few times trying to get them out of the way.

 

[Dahbomb]

And my favorite boss fights are

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Logarius, Father G and Gerhman.

They are my favorite because with skill you can cut down the time on the boss fights dramatically with parries and they don't have huge screen cover moves that are ambiguous to dodge or have attacks where you take unavoidable damage. They are also aggressive in their patterns and fast so they keep you on your toe. Plus the music and setting on the fights are perfect.

 

[Papercuts]

You wanna talk about some hitbox fuckery, I still don't understand the last boss

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when he jumps in the sky and makes a whirlwind slash. It seemed like the best thing to do was run under him but I got knicked by it constantly.

Also that one chalice Descendant fight where he tosses his weapon blatantly through the pillars still stands out to me above everything else as some premium bullshit.

 

[2AdEPT]

Oh wow, tha'ts amazing!

That's why I love playing as blind as possible...trying to find this kind of stuff is almost more fun to me than the fighting part! Many deaths and echos lost were sacrficed to bring you that vid.

 

[super-famicom]

Threaded Cane is indeed the epitome of badassery. It is IMO the best weapon in Bloodborne. It has everything, and most importantly it has swagger.

 

[meanspartan]

Only trouble I had with Unseen Village was because of the

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three Hunters

. I died quite a few times trying to get them out of the way.

Not proud of myself, but after numerous deaths I had to cheese them by aggroing then running all the way back to the lamp. Usually only one followed, the other two started to head back. Killed that one, then repeated with a 2nd one, and finally got to 1v1 the third in his room.

 

[Mister Wolf]

If I get on her side, the sweep attacks still hit me.

The best results I got from getting between her tails, but she sometimes will not stop rotating and hitting so it is chancey.

Get in on her chest and start slashing. when she tries to headbutt smash you dip to the side a start wailing on her grapefruit head. when she gets pissed and starts the light show make sure not to panic and time those dodges right. i tried playing defensively and she was wrecking me. Once i went into commander Gutts hyper aggressive black swordsman rush down mode i took her alien ass out.

 

[Gromph]

Endgame question: when should I

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consume three umbilical cords in order to get the moon presence to appear?

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Before the last fight

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

And my favorite boss fights are

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Logarius, Father G and Gerhman.

They are my favorite because with skill you can cut down the time on the boss fights dramatically with parries and they don't have huge screen cover moves that are ambiguous to dodge or have attacks where you take unavoidable damage. They are also aggressive in their patterns and fast so they keep you on your toe. Plus the music and setting on the fights are perfect.

I died to Father G many times, but the time I killed him was with nothing but V. Attacks and it felt great. Easily my favorite boss in the game because of that, though apparently I missed out on some shit in later boss fights.

 

[Necromanti]

I'm really getting sick of E

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brietas'

bullshit

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charge attack

.

 

[EatChildren]

I ended up beating

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Ebrietas

much faster coming back to her at the end game after doing some level grinding, and seeking out +10 on my saw. I'm still not fond of the fight itself but I was glad to wreck its shit.

I really liked an overwhelming majority of the fights in the game, even the very gimmicky ones that were more quirky than difficult.

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Celestial Emissary

is probably the only one I didn't like very much as it seemed exceptionally half arsed and forgettable. If I had to critique the boss fights, I'd say that the issue isn't that they're forgettable or uninteresting, it's that a lot of them become surprisingly easy once you get their patterns down, learn their blind spots, and time their counter windows.

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Wet Nurse

I beat on second try simply by circling to the left and being patient.

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Gerhman and Moon Presence

were fun but beat both on my first attempt, the former alarmingly easy to counter for a visceral attack and the latter leaving itself open for a barrage of hits too often. Bloodborne doesn't have the Dark Souls 2 problem where a good number of boss fights are both unmemorable and easy. I love what they've done here. But I think maybe some fights are a bit too easy once you "get it". Maybe I was over levelled though.

Outstanding game regardless. I picked up my PS4 from a stupidly cheap deal a year or so ago and while I've played a few games this is the first to really jump out as a reason to own the system. All the other exclusives I could take or leave. This justifies the investment.

 

[SargerusBR]

I'm really getting sick of E

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brietas'

bullshit

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charge attack

.

dont lock on

 

[Necromanti]

dont lock on

I'm not, but if I haven't rolled away twice by the time she starts it, it's a OHKO.

 

[Rean]

You wanna talk about some hitbox fuckery, I still don't understand the last boss

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when he jumps in the sky and makes a whirlwind slash. It seemed like the best thing to do was run under him but I got knicked by it constantly.

Yeah, that was pretty annoying. I just

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stayed near him at that phase of the fight so he would just do regular attacks.

And my favorite boss fights are

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Logarius, Father G and Gerhman.

I personally liked

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Gherman and the Hunter fight at the end of Eileen the crow's questline the most.

They were pretty exciting to fight against.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

Not proud of myself, but after numerous deaths I had to cheese them by aggroing then running all the way back to the lamp. Usually only one followed, the other two started to head back. Killed that one, then repeated with a 2nd one, and finally got to 1v1 the third in his room.

Hmm, I did not know that. I ran from them but didn't think they'd turn around. I just killed one, died, then repeated the process.

 

[Sanke__]

I'm not, but if I haven't rolled away twice by the time she starts it, it's a OHKO.

You just have to stay close so she doesn't use that attack
The fight can be down right impossible if you are taking too much damage though
Make sure you use armor with as much physical defense as possible

 

[meanspartan]

I died to Father G many times, but the time I killed him was with nothing but V. Attacks and it felt great. Easily my favorite boss in the game because of that, though apparently I missed out on some shit in later boss fights.

Faher G remains the hardest boss in the game for me. Took me 20 tries to kill him, and I'm not exaggerating either.

I got him to his monster form on my second try, but died another 18 times to him in that form. SOOOO annoying and I couldn't quite get how to parry him down.

Bosses I have yet to fight:

The two optional bosses in UCW, of which I hear Ebrietas is a bitch. Also Gehrmann and the extra optional boss after him

We'll see if any of those surpass father G for me.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

You wanna talk about some hitbox fuckery, I still don't understand the last boss

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when he jumps in the sky and makes a whirlwind slash. It seemed like the best thing to do was run under him but I got knicked by it constantly.

Whenever that happened, I just broke my lock-on and ran. I evaded it maybe two or three times, but it definitely wasn't a guarantee.

 

[Imperfected]

I'm not, but if I haven't rolled away twice by the time she starts it, it's a OHKO.

I know it's blasphemy, but you might want to go and level up. This specific fight, along with the Defiled Chalice, are the closest to "gear checks" that the game has. You can definitely get enough health to survive getting hit with her charge, and even enough to survive getting clipped by her lasers (though not eating the full volley), which significantly changes the nature of the fight.

 

[IndustryX]

Finally beat it, now time for platinum First Souls experience, definitely going to pick up DS2 for PS4 on tuesday!

 

[Necromanti]

You just have to stay close so she doesn't use that attack
The fight can be down right impossible if you are taking too much damage though
Make sure you use armor with as much physical defense as possible

She only does it when I'm close, though... Bah. I just have to find the right balance between staying close enough to bait an attack that makes her vulnerable and far away enough so I can get away without getting hit.

I know it's blasphemy, but you might want to go and level up. This specific fight, along with the Defiled Chalice, are the closest to "gear checks" that the game has. You can definitely get enough health to survive getting hit with her charge, and even enough to survive getting clipped by her lasers (though not eating the full volley), which significantly changes the nature of the fight.

I know. I can dodge everything else consistently, including the laser. I just need to git gud...

 

[Papercuts]

Yeah, that was pretty annoying. I just

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stayed near him at that phase of the fight so he would just do regular attacks.

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For me I found he frequently would teleport away then do it. In my NG+ he was particualy an asshole with this and did the move a solid 5-6 times when I usually only saw it once or twice

. I like the fight a lot otherwise but that was consistently the only thing I kept getting hit by, and it does massive damage.

Whenever that happened, I just broke my lock-on and ran. I evaded it maybe two or three times, but it definitely wasn't a guarantee.

Yeah, that's what I typically tried. Immediate disengagement into a sprint but it still was hit or miss.

 

[toastyToast]

So is there's a

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murderous asshole

NPC in this game, right? Can they screw you out of an

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umbilical cord

?

 

[Sparrowhawk]

So is there's a

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murderous asshole

NPC in this game, right? Can they screw you out of an

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umbilical cord

?

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There are four possible umbilical cords in the game. If you're referring to the prostitute getting murdered, you can still get three of them.

 

[Hugstable]

Finally beat it, now time for platinum First Souls experience, definitely going to pick up DS2 for PS4 on tuesday!

I'm picking it up also! I played like 5 hours of it on PC with the vanilla version, but I never got into it at the time. I've been on a Souls frenzy recently though. Beat Bloodborne twice, and I started Dark Souls 6 days ago and am already at the end game -__-. I need more Echoes/Souls!

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

So is there's a

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murderous asshole

NPC in this game, right? Can they screw you out of an

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umbilical cord

?

Don't send the

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cannibal guy from the Forbidden Forest

to the Cathedral where

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Arianna is at, if you sent her there

, send him to the Clinic instead.

 

[Necromanti]

I was literally one shot away from finally beating E

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brietas

when I choked... Oh my god. I'm never going to get RNG like that again. I'm still shaking.

I FUCKED UP.

 

[toastyToast]

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There are four possible umbilical cords in the game. If you're referring to the prostitute getting murdered, you can still get three of them.

I know I can get one from her and

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Iosefka

just wondering if I can mess up both. Which NPC is the one who does it?

Don't send the

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cannibal guy from the Forbidden Forest

to the Cathedral where

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Arianna is at, if you sent her there

, send him to the Clinic instead.

Alright cool. If I send him there does

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Iosefka kill him and I can still get her cord later

?

 

[gotoadgo]

You wanna talk about some hitbox fuckery, I still don't understand the last boss

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when he jumps in the sky and makes a whirlwind slash. It seemed like the best thing to do was run under him but I got knicked by it constantly.

Also that one chalice Descendant fight where he tosses his weapon blatantly through the pillars still stands out to me above everything else as some premium bullshit.

You need to move away from him i.e. If he's to the north of your location, you need to dodge a few times to the south. Its range is not infinite and it should run out of puff before it gets to you every time.

 

[gotoadgo]

I know I can get one from her and

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Iosefka

just wondering if I can mess up both. Which NPC is the one who does it?

The asshole is found on a roof in the forest. It's a roof of the building the shortcuts take you through.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

I know I can get one from her and

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Iosefka

just wondering if I can mess up both. Which NPC is the one who does it?

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The NPC who murders the prostitute is a nun that you find in the Hypogean Gaol. She gets jealous if you accept the prostitutes blood or something and murders her. However, some people say she'll kill a bunch of people there for no reason.

 

[Radical Edward]

You wanna talk about some hitbox fuckery, I still don't understand the last boss

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when he jumps in the sky and makes a whirlwind slash. It seemed like the best thing to do was run under him but I got knicked by it constantly.

I just get some distance and dodge backwards twice. I don't get hit by it anymore unless I have no room behind me

 

[Korosenai]

Am I losing out on max potential with Ludwigs Holy Blade by not leveling up arcane and putting an elemental gem on it? I mean, i've been using max strength with it, and I leveled up skill to the soft cap, but I feel like i'm not using the sword to it's full potential.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

You need to move away from him i.e. If he's to the north of your location, you need to dodge a few times to the south. Its range is not infinite and it should run out of puff before it gets to you every time.

Awesome, I never tried going backwards. Great tip.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Alright cool. If I send him there does

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Iosefka kill him and I can still get her cord later

?

You can still get

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Iosefka's Cord

as long as you kill

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her after you've killed Rom, not before.

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The NPC who murders the prostitute is a nun that you find in the Hypogean Gaol. She gets jealous if you accept the prostitutes blood or something and murders her. However, some people say she'll kill a bunch of people there for no reason.

Also, this is not true. I sent the

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crying nun

from

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Unseen Village

to the Cathedral and everything is alright for now, but that's because I already received

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Arianna's blood

way before that.

 

[Sullichin]

Trying to get Ritual Blood 4 to start the Loran dungeons. Ran Lower Hintertomb two and a half times and I still need a few more.. are there any enemies in the normal game that drop ritual blood 4?

 

[Sparrowhawk]

Trying to get Ritual Blood 4 to start the Loran dungeons. Ran Lower Hintertomb two and a half times and I still need a few more.. are there any enemies in the normal game that drop ritual blood 4?

I honestly don't think so. I've been putting it off myself because it seems like such a pain. :\
Your best bet is to look for some codes with enemies that drop them frequently.

 

[boredandlazy]

Just beat BSB on NG+, only took 6 antidotes and 20 blood vials.

 

[Teknoman]

Took a slightly extended break (due to work anyway lol). Are the tombstones working as they should now? Also do you finally see a decent amount of player phantoms running around?

 

[orochi91]

How does Day/Night cycle work?

If I want to fight Cleric Beast at night, how do I do that?

 

[rje]

So I just got to

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nightmare frontier

and found out the hard way

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you can be invaded whether you like it or not. If I switch to offline mode for this zone does it affect anything in the zone besides notes and pvp/coop? Pvp isn't really my cup of tea.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

You can still get

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Iosefka's Cord

as long as you kill

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her after you've killed Rom, not before.

Also, this is not true. I sent the

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crying nun

from

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Unseen Village

to the Cathedral and everything is alright for now, but that's because I already received

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Arianna's blood

way before that.

Just looked it up, she'll only do it during a certain part I guess. I still don't trust her.

How does Day/Night cycle work?

If I want to fight Cleric Beast at night, how do I do that?

It's tied to the story.

So I just got to

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nightmare frontier

and found out the hard way

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you can be invaded whether you like it or not. If I switch to offline mode for this zone does it affect anything in the zone besides notes and pvp/coop? Pvp isn't really my cup of tea.

You should be fine, it won't affect anything. You could always kill the bell lady, though.

 

[SargerusBR]

How does Day/Night cycle work?

If I want to fight Cleric Beast at night, how do I do that?

Fight it after defeating

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Vicar Amelia

 

[stupei]

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Shadow of Yarnhem

(Forbidden Woods) fight has been consistently kicking my ass. I beat the last few bosses I fought on my first attempts, but this has made my default strategy of using regen whenever necessary and saving up on vials almost impossible.

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If I try to regen on one of them, the other two almost inevitably sneak up behind me. And for some reason the flamethrower enemies anywhere in the game are a huge issue for me since they work against the natural instinct to sidestep.

Trying to beat it without summoning, but I might give up on that eventually.

Gave up on that fight for a while and went to the Castle. Did better there overall but I'm also having trouble with this one, at least compared to some of the more recent bosses. I eventually discovered how useful the

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pistol

is in this one, though. That makes a huge difference.

My biggest frustration right now is I'm going through too many blood vials in my boss attempts and eventually have to stop going after the boss to farm them. (Since I'm doing straight runs to the boss, avoiding enemies.) I guess this system is sort of intended to combat that, but the bosses are honestly just too far from the lamps a lot of the times. I think I need to just take an hour to farm almost nonstop and then spend all those echoes on vials so that I don't have to worry about it for a while.