Bloodborne |OT+++| ...and so the Nightly Hunt continues
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Interfectum
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It's a consequence for wasting blood vials on a boss.
BruceLeeRoy
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I seem to hit a limit at a depth of 3. Do you go deeper each altar?
So cold, dear sister
One trophy from platinum!!!
The final chalice boss
I.. just... cant.. do..it
Guess Ill stay at 91% on bloodborne, Im stuck on last ailing loran chalice, my body is not ready
Love the game, Im probably going to buy the strategy guide just to read it and stash as a keepsake to remember my 60 hour gaming experience
The final chalice boss
I.. just... cant.. do..it
Guess Ill stay at 91% on bloodborne, Im stuck on last ailing loran chalice, my body is not ready
Love the game, Im probably going to buy the strategy guide just to read it and stash as a keepsake to remember my 60 hour gaming experience
Cyborg
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Weird. Maybe your game bugged out
Yeah....
the girl in the window ask me if I found
her sister, she wear a White Ribbon
She isnt there no matter whatDeified Data
Banned
Easy way to trivialize it:
run past him on your first trip through the castle, ignoring all enemies. Your goal is to find the shortcut that leads back to the lift past the stone-throwing giants. Find the shortcut in the basement of the area, and this time take it back the way you came. You'll emerge into the area he's in with his back to you. Feel free to sneak up on him for a free visceral attack.
Really, one more? Just summon someone!
No, no it's not. Theres like 5 bosses I haven't one shot in this whole game, it's just because eventually if you want to heal, you'll run out. There's a drought of vials in like 75% of the game. The fact that I have to go and farm them if I want to have a fail safe is lame as hell.
That means you're too far awaythere's a sweet spot.
Also, notice that he's headless, if you're far enough away, and not moving he will just stand there. That's why it's so important to sprint and then dash twice through the legs to get behind him. It takes some finesse, for sure, but it's a very abusable pattern. If he does the charge just quick dodge as much as you can to the left.
I just waited till he couldn't hear me, creeped in and started sprinting, once he hears you you'll be close enough for that attack you can dodge through his legs.
I'm aware he's headless I'm also aware that wound is a weak spot. The first phase is super easy because the spit is so easily abused.
I can't find the sweet spot you're talking about though. Too far away he does the charge attack, medium distance he does many different kinds(not just the two hit one) of swipes and uses his snake head.
I can't even tell when he can't hear me really, he always seems to know where I am, even if I'm the other side of the room.
Yeah, the lamps can feel inconvenient at times. I guess they wanted to stick with the theme of The Dream being home base like the Nexus was. I can understand them wanting to keep that consistent. Thankfully loading the Dream is pretty fast.
Deified Data
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Right, but so is the R1. Just wondering why it seems to do more damage than the R2. It's got to be something related to direct hits vs. AoE hits but for the life of me I can't seem to deal any "direct" hits with the R2.
Lostconfused
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Can't you people just buy blood vials?
And so the game would literally be no different for you if the vials automatically replenished ala an estus flask type system since you have so many.
However you acknowledge that it is at its core a grinding mechanic and that it does negatively effect newer players or players that hit a rough spot and have to acquire more through grinding. Even good players will have to take some amount of time away from actually playing the game to full up either by farming or buying. Which was my case.
It has nothing to do with changing playstyle. I am fully aware of the mechanics and how to use the system. So are most people arguing against the system. That doesn't change the fact that this system ultimately doesn't add anything of value to the experience compared to the estus flask alternative. This presumption that the reason people are running out of vials is because they are trying to play the game like souls is not only wrong but missing the point.
Changing to a replenishment system wouldn't change the combat in any way, or really even the overall challenge, except to alleviate a level of grinding(however trivial some people wish to frame it) and tediousness for players that have spots of difficulty or having to waste time going and buying or farming more vials before they run out. For good players it adds an unnecessary waste of time(no matter how small) having to go and stock up on vials and for players that struggle, regardless of reason, it adds a layer of grinding and tediousness that takes away from progressing and enjoying the core experience.
Deified Data
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This. It doesn't matter how easy it is to farm Central Yarnham, the whole game should have a consistent drop rate of vials. Not enough to make them feel like they're free, but at least 2-3 drops per area.
Windom Earle
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And why would I wanna do that? It's a gigantic waste of time.
I am mostly buying them, but it can be annoying. And IF you really wanna implement this mechanic, at least allow me to store more than 99. (Same for bullets by the way. If you do PvP you WILL run out of bullets)
Truth is, most of this game's small issues would be irrelevant if the loading times were as fast as Dark Souls on PC
You know his arm slam he does? Where he lands on his elbow? Try baiting that, that's the one where you run through and dodge past it.
I'm probably not explaining it very well, I'm sorry :/
Interfectum
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So instead of farming use a few of your successful "one shotting" runs and spend all of it on blood vials so you dont have to worry about it.
haha, good luck with that. trying to summon in the Chalice is even harder than main game.
ISee
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You do not necessary need to beat the very last lower ailing loran dungeon to get the trophy... you just need the ritual blood (5) out of there or out of the isz chalice dungeon (5), afiak.
Woohoo! Beat my first Chalice Dungeon. Third floor was W
. I can see why you guys rage now over fighting him. His charge attack took half my health when he hit me with it. I can only imagine him powered up. So now back to the main game. I just got done beating A
and D
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, but now I'm lost and don't know where to go. Any help?
atchdog
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arkbeast
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Yep, that's exactly where I go for some quick vials. You have three lumbering big guys that usually give 2 each, the two wolves that give 3 each plus any misc from standard mobs. Best spot imo and doesn't take long at all.
edit: and using any extra blood echoes for topping off my supply.
Every once in a while I'll spend souls on blood vials, but I'd rather level up more.
If you want to act like this is the best souls health system, go for it, but it won't make it true.
It's not game breaking or horrible, it's just not fun and a waste of time when I could be doing something more fun and exciting instead.
ScottSullivan
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Farming the blood vials wouldn't be so annoying if you could warp to any area from any lamp. HAving to go back to the dream twice is dumb. I hope they think to patch that soon
This, you suffer like 2 minutes of load screens to go to central yharnam from your current progress area, it's lame.
It's no problem the help is appreciated eitherway!
How do you consistently bait it though? When I'm under him he sometimes does that, or he does the foot stomp + jump back.
Ah well. I'll try it again in a bit. I ran out of vials so need to get more.
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
just die and collect your souls, a lot quicker
Yup, it's the "shit just got real" location.
You should never be under him for more than two or 3 quick 1 hand attacks. Just sprint out of there ASAP. Basically I don't bait it as much as it just happens. I get away from him, then just sprint my ass towards him, he will then do that arm slam, that's when I jump or dodge through, get two swipes on his hind leg, run away and repeat.
The argument isn't that it takes a super long time, it's that it is unnecessary and adds nothing of value to the game. The fact that it is so easy, just slightly tedious, speaks to my point. Switch to a automatic replenishment system and the only thing that changes in the game is no longer having to farm or waste time buying vials. You aren't losing anything of value.
Bruh,
Find someone willing to help you with this. If I was home I'd knock this out with you in an hour (since I'd have to get through the layers in your dungeon).
Don't give up hope yet.
You have to be in the exact same dungeon, which means you need to share the dungeon and work your way through the layers.
He also needs 2x red jelly from either loran or isz. If it's A
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super-famicom
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Yeah....But no luckher sister, she wear a White Ribbon
Oh, I thought you were at the END of that quest line. It looks like you haven't found the
Red Ribbon
Saw Hunter Badge, near the pig
The_Darkest_Red
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How much does Arcane affect drop rate? I've never put a point into it, maybe that explains why enemies don't drop vials very often...
When I need vials I just run through Forbidden Woods for a little while. It's easy to get 30k souls or so and you can buy 40 or so vials with that. It's still pointless and a step back from the Estus system, though.
When I need vials I just run through Forbidden Woods for a little while. It's easy to get 30k souls or so and you can buy 40 or so vials with that. It's still pointless and a step back from the Estus system, though.
super-famicom
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If you put a point into Arcane, you can see how much the stat goes up before confirming. You can do this with all stats.
I believe the exact amount of (staggered) knives you need to kill him is 14. Take 20 to cover yourself.
Haha yeah I had more number of attempts on this than anything else in the game. If you feel like you're banging your head against a wall here, you probably are and should change up your strategy...
Veritigo_X
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No, you're supposed to run past every enemy after unlocking the shortcut and then complain about needing to farm when you're out of vials. From my understanding that's how BB is played.
Interfectum
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Why don't they just respawn you at the boss? It's not fun to have to run back to fight him!
The_Darkest_Red
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Sure, I'm just talking specifically about how often you get stuff like vials to drop.
It's a valid strategy in the other Souls games so why are you surprised that people are doing it with BB? The estus flask already solved this problem.
Not sure if sarcastic, but welcome to the Souls series!
Why don't they just take pitty on you for failing a boss fight so many times and make the boss into easy mode.
It already does that if you go 12+ hours in a marathon. :lol
Yes because that's the point people are making. *rolls my fucking eyes at this immature shit*
I don't think it effects blood vials, but gems and runes instead. Blood vials are a constant drop from many enemies like the brick dude and so on.
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