Because you can, means you should? He has no build to be anything but a complete jobber for Brock. You don't get to come in and spin Brock around like a goof when you're taking L's from Kofi Kingston.
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Because you can, means you should? He has no build to be anything but a complete jobber for Brock. You don't get to come in and spin Brock around like a goof when you're taking L's from Kofi Kingston.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Yeah, old man Henry and his Hall of Pain was amazing.
blackaroni
Member
The New Day are basically doing R-Truth's initial Little Jimmy/"Good" R-Truth gimmick.
I predict 4 HHH's - Bluebood, DX, Evolution Era, and Corporate HHH
3 HBKs - Sexy Boy, DX, and final HBK
2 Rocks - Classic and Modern
3 Hogans - 80s, Hollywood, and final Hulkamania run
4 Ortons - 2007, 2012, 2014, present
and a partridge and a pear tree
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Kofi Kingston 2014-15 attires
dr3upmushroom
Banned
best frannz!
i missed this entire period, seems like Edge made a good chicken shit heel. was JBL a babyface at one point?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
As many WCW and ECW guys they can get, please.
Of course, Vince would order 2K to limit any WCW wrestler's top rating to be below 70.
Get the rights to as many WCW guys as possible and then have a storyline in the game where it's the WCW Invasion, except done right
Sibersk Esto
Banned
look at this bullshit:
You mean like they did in 2k12's CAW storyline, where instead of being about your wrestler, it turned into Triple H vs Kevin Nash for control of Raw?
Conrad Link
Member
A Shane McMahon controlled WCW, a proper show competing could have been pretty cool.
look at this bullshit:
This is like the polar opposite of a bullshot.
https://twitter.com/AlexRileyWWE/status/586594003753291776
This is literally the worst employed person in the WWE.
This is literally the worst employed person in the WWE.
FallingEdge
Member
the comments are the best part
Doubt that.
I'd like for WWE 2k to go do fantasy booking of storylines WWE fucked up.
Take the invasion angle, take the Nexus debut, take anything that could have gone differently and just do some fantasy booking.
They kinda realized that with 2k12 and did Triple H retiring on the throne after successfully defending the title and burying the entire roster (I'm not joking).
Take the invasion angle, take the Nexus debut, take anything that could have gone differently and just do some fantasy booking.
They kinda realized that with 2k12 and did Triple H retiring on the throne after successfully defending the title and burying the entire roster (I'm not joking).
Mr. Luchador
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British Monsoon
Member
Alex Riley is just about the only person on the WWE roster who I can't fathom as to why he's there - he's a void of talent. In the best case scenario, he could be worth half of a Mr. Kennedy, which doesn't amount to a whole lot.
Obviously they'd need to build him up for it, I thought you were in some way suggesting that Cesaro shouldn't be throwing Brock around because of the size difference.
Obviously they'd need to build him up for it, I thought you were in some way suggesting that Cesaro shouldn't be throwing Brock around because of the size difference.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Random but I wish Smackdown was live. I haven't watched a Smackdown in months and it's all because it's taped. I just read the spoilers in 2 minutes and then that's it. Smackdown needs to be live. I believe there was a rumor it could be eventually.
can't do that, Reigns would get booed on both shows and Vince can't let that happen
British Monsoon
Member
Comedy jobber. He's of more use than Riley for that reason alone.
slightconfuse
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As demonstrated by Mark Henery it takes one promo,to get people,hype. Ex Paul hey man guy seeks revenge by slaying THE Hey man guy
Ah. I don't really see a monster build in the cards that would put him in a position where he'd be booked to throw Brock around. His stalling slam over the top rope on Big Show got a big reaction at my #Safe WrestleMania viewing party with lapsed fans. It's going to be hard to recapture that momentum.
Cesaro has that kind of promo in him? Has he touched the mic since kicking off the #TalkingEra with his 4 ropes promo?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Mr. Luchador
Member
I'm sure I've asked this before, but when does it turn to shit? I enjoyed 2002-2003 (from what I saw).
Idk. I dropped it around the time Nigel was headbutting ring posts over and over and Jimmy Jacobs got to write his own storylines.
Who is salvageable in your eyes, Stro? I fuck with Prince Nana and Silas Young.
slightconfuse
Banned
Idk. No one on the Supercard of Honor show. I think it is possible for ACH to become something pretty good if he gets to work with more guys like AJ who will beat a solid story/pace into him. He's not going to get better doing 6 man spot fests. Dude needs the NXT or NJPW system to help him. There is no room for improvement at ROH for him.
bitesnintendog
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Do we count 123 Kid as a different person? Cause 123 Kid and his match with Bret on Raw alone puts X-Pac many notches above Alex Riley.
slightconfuse
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I will contend that X-Pac was the best worker of the Attitude Era until the Radicalz jumped and Kurt Angle found himself. In 1998-1999, he was the best. And he was over as FUCK. Second most over babyface depending on what Rock was doing. Even ended house shows and a PPV doing the beer bash with Austin. X-Pac heat wasn't a thing until he turned on Kane and DX reformed as a heel group that kill everyone but HHH's momentum.
British Monsoon
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List of ROH roster members who are better outside of ROH;
. Adam Cole
. ACH
. Bobby Fish
. Cedric Alexander
. Kyle O'Reilly
. Matt Taven
. Matt Sydal
. Michael Bennett
. Raymond Rowe
. Roderick Strong
. Silas Young
At least eight of those guys are wrestlers I'd pay to see, but ROH is doing such a poor job with them I can't muster up the slightest of fucks these days. And now they've lost Ciampa. I'm sure he'll do great for Gabe.
. Adam Cole
. ACH
. Bobby Fish
. Cedric Alexander
. Kyle O'Reilly
. Matt Taven
. Matt Sydal
. Michael Bennett
. Raymond Rowe
. Roderick Strong
. Silas Young
At least eight of those guys are wrestlers I'd pay to see, but ROH is doing such a poor job with them I can't muster up the slightest of fucks these days. And now they've lost Ciampa. I'm sure he'll do great for Gabe.
It has its moments of greatness like any other promotion, but I totally get why you would rag on the SCOH9 production values. The show looked pretty damn bad. They could maybe justify it by saying it's a house show or whatever, but even then, they're going to show two matches from the show on television, which is pretty embarrassing, even if they are advertising it as a "road rage" episode.
As for the other things you mentioned, the wrestlers work hard, but I will agree about the lack of stories and mixed wrestling quality. I think it's unfair to say everyone is terrible, but there is something lacking in terms of psychology from many of the wrestlers and matches. They're more like rapid fire action flicks with occasional botches.
I do wonder if ROH knows that they've got their fanbase locked in and are content just catering to that fanbase without much interest in major growth. I doubt it based on comments by Joe Koff. Still, they can't seem to get past their current niche. The going theories are that Sinclair doesn't care, and the front office doesn't have the necessary organization to go to the next level.