All entirely true.
Kid's initial run was also completely fucked by his heel turn. 1-2-3 Kid was maybe the third most over babyface in 1994 and fourth or fifth in 1995 before he goes heel.
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All entirely true.
Kid's initial run was also completely fucked by his heel turn. 1-2-3 Kid was maybe the third most over babyface in 1994 and fourth or fifth in 1995 before he goes heel.
He seems to me like a dude who was really into GSP and took one BJJ and one mooey tie class and decided he was a bad ass.
British Monsoon
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Yeah, that's what he's supposed to be, but outside of his work with Adam Cole (and that match with AJ) his singles matches in ROH has been disappointing - bear in mind, he's Davey Richards' top trainee, whereas Zack was trained at Andre Baker's very well regarded Hammerlock UK school (the same that produced Devitt & Becky Lynch) and Aoki was trained by Akiyama.
slightconfuse
Banned
Bobby fish is better anyway
Hidden One
Member
They'll be more piss to come in August.
Eh, ACH has far more charisma than Roddy at this stage. I've always viewed Strong as a guy with as much personality as an unsalted cracker. I can't buy his promos at all, and I can't get invested in his character, whatever it's supposed to be.
Currently, I dig Dalton Castle, the stuff with Corino's son, and matches involving ACH, Matt Sydal, AJ Styles, Cedric Alexander, and The Addiction. The Bucks always liven things up too.
FallingEdge
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And it isn't even close.
Yeah buddy.
Have you seen his PWG work? He is such a natural d-bag.
ROH also has a bit of an identity crisis where they're not sure if they want to present pro wrestling as a full-on sport or as sports entertainment, and this has led to really mixed tones in many areas of their shows. To be more specific, their dark mood lighting with the blues and oranges clashes with light-hearted comedy stuff.
I'll still support ROH because of the massive VOD library and past glories, but the current state of the product could certainly use some continued fine tuning. They're working on it.
I'll still support ROH because of the massive VOD library and past glories, but the current state of the product could certainly use some continued fine tuning. They're working on it.
NXT is likely the more popular brand right now.
TNA merging with ROH, that would be the tough one. I'd probably name the company ROH because TNA is an awful name.
In some venues, yeah. They put up dark blue wall lights like you'd see in a wedding hall, and have also lit the audience in that same dark blue at times. A lot of the time it's just a result of a poor venue and having the wrong equipment, though. They recently invested in a giant wall screen that has improved the visual of the show on television. Feels slightly bigger time.
I can see it now... "IT'S ALL BREAKING DOWN IN THE RING OF IMPACT - ZONE OF HONOR."
slightconfuse
Banned
GET HYPE
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Why would you want to watch nothing happen live
notworksafe
Member
Way better than A-Ry. He was great during his Axxess matches. He's really pushing the sore loser gimmick hard and everyone was eating it up
I watched a RePro show to see what the fuss was about. I rolled my eyes pretty constantly at the punk rawk wrestling motif that British indies seem to have a hard-on for, the matches were pretty forgettable, I couldn't stand the heel commentators... But this guy.
This guy is fucking money. This guy is so British. This guy is so classic heel. This guy was born to be a heel manager based entirely off genetics. When WWE signs ZSJ or TMDK(They're Australian, but Vince dgaf), they NEED to bring him in as their manager. I wish I had a photo of his 'ring gear' because it is equally incredible
This guy is fucking money. This guy is so British. This guy is so classic heel. This guy was born to be a heel manager based entirely off genetics. When WWE signs ZSJ or TMDK(They're Australian, but Vince dgaf), they NEED to bring him in as their manager. I wish I had a photo of his 'ring gear' because it is equally incredible
...Why?
bitesnintendog
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This is a pretty big problem with watching them as it shows week to week. They need to book TV storylines that progress every episode or every other episode. Right now they have episodes where nothing but matches that mean nothing happen and it makes it hard to care. They also need to plan stories out with talent they don't have full control over. I care about guys like AJ and the Bucks but they keep presenting them like special attractions and nothing really happens with them.
Yeah, I just think of AJ, Joe, El Patron, and the Bucks as special attractions. The only name guys they've brought in and I think of as part of the roster are Kaz and Daniels. Now they're finally getting something to do too, so I'm interested to see where they go with them at least.
Oh, and Matt Sydal also seems to be a full-time ROH guy, but they haven't done much with him.
Gotta applaud them for being ambitious enough to go after that partnership at least.
Give me Kushida vs. Matt Sydal please.
I honestly wonder if WWE would eventually face antitrust/monopoly issues if they started really killing off indies.
Works for the UFC. They basically monopolize any semblance of talent, which stifles competition and keeps them from getting a foothold. The only difference is WWE is smart enough to separate the bums from their actual product.
FlammableD
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I watched a RePro show to see what the fuss was about. I rolled my eyes pretty constantly at the punk rawk wrestling motif that British indies seem to have a hard-on for, the matches were pretty forgettable, I couldn't stand the heel commentators... But this guy.
This guy is fucking money. This guy is so British. This guy is so classic heel. This guy was born to be a heel manager based entirely off genetics. When WWE signs ZSJ or TMDK(They're Australian, but Vince dgaf), they NEED to bring him in as their manager. I wish I had a photo of his 'ring gear' because it is equally incredible
Grey is a fun throwback.
Don't have Rev Pro pegged as the punk rock school (the hard on comes from being driven underground for so long). They're a squarely family friendly group.
Sibersk Esto
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to find the future jobbers
FallingEdge
Member
To get an average joe through TE and then put him on NXT and watch him grow.
Isn't UFC's next biggest competition still doing well though? (I don't follow MMA so pardon my ignorance)
To find the next wrestling hopeful pursuing his or her dreams that NXT crowds will boo in favor of some indie guy.
To find the next guy who could potentially be a star, and then not pick him to win in favor of some other guy who will wash out in the minors.
FallingEdge
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Just bought some shirts from Team Suplex. A Devitt and ZBJ shirt. Can't wait.
To get them to NXT
¡HarlequinPanic!
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saw a biker the other week with a jacket that read "SILENT RAGE" on the back, thought of tough enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcaN-bd4dGA
Maven had a sweet ass theme, guys.
He should've joined Evolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkYmkpSH3ls
Maven had a sweet ass theme, guys.
He should've joined Evolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkYmkpSH3ls
They're making due with being a spectacle instead of having comparable talent. Any actual talent they have is based on making a longterm bet that they'll develop into a meaningful talent and draw, and locking them into a contract. There's a bit of an arms race for MMA talent in this respect.
There's plenty more intricacies to their competition, but in short what's happening is very similar to when Ted Turner bought WCW. Bellator is now owned by Viacom and in the rare position to poach old fogies from UFC's heyday and make a run at them.
FallingEdge
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Is a Goldberg style booking possible in MMA? Feed him can after can to build up this hype machine and then actually win a big time match.
You mean Ronda Rousey booking?
Brock comes to mind.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I was of the opinion The E should've converted Rod Smart to pro wrestling after the XFL went under. He had great promo skills. He Hate Me.
It's honestly the plan they have for any potential hot new talent.
The only problem being that the sport isn't worked...yet.
Yeah, you can selectively book someone to the top. UFC has been pretty adverse to it, but Conor McGregor is a pretty good example right now. He's money and they know it. Chael got in some spots because he was money, too. Elite XC tried with Kimbo Slice, etc.
Pristine_Condition
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Hearing ACH dubbed "bland" or whatever just seems actuly ridiculous to me, but I see him in promotions like Inspire Pro and PWG more than ROH, so I guess there's that. It's pretty indescribable to see him in Inspire Pro. You get pulled into the gravitational force of the combination of his talent, charisma and just how completely over and loved he is with that crowd.
The list is spot-on, but as I long-time Roddy hater, I do feel the need to note that while he is certainly better in PWG, Roderick Strong is still terrible. PWG is an outlier for him.
I honestly don't undestand why ROH is so mediocre right now. I just don't get it at all.
The list is spot-on, but as I long-time Roddy hater, I do feel the need to note that while he is certainly better in PWG, Roderick Strong is still terrible. PWG is an outlier for him.
I honestly don't undestand why ROH is so mediocre right now. I just don't get it at all.
Not enough Mattitude.