viveks86
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Agreed
I didn't say I was expecting it in this game. I'm just saying the tech isn't there yet to pull it off at this scale. May be in 3 or 5 years. Ergo, it has a long way to go
Witcher 3: Official Gameplay Trailer
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Agreed
I didn't say I was expecting it in this game. I'm just saying the tech isn't there yet to pull it off at this scale. May be in 3 or 5 years. Ergo, it has a long way to go
Crossing Eden
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Oh the tech is most definitely there, it's just the cost and amount of work involved that's the issue.
I think that's kind of also the tech not being there.
If the tech was "there", I'd simply expect the narrative designer to specify "gruffly angry" or "moderately amused" and the engine transalting this to the correct facial expressions and body language
Crossing Eden
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Ah yes If only it was that easy.I think that's kind of also the tech not being there.
If the tech was "there", I'd simply expect the narrative designer to specify "gruffly angry" or "moderately amused" and the engine transalting this to the correct facial expressions and body language
I assume it's not too far off, they seem to motion capture a ton of simple reactions, and then put them into conversations based on the context. Witcher 2 had this one where Geralt would throw his hands up turn around with his hands on his hips and come back into place. Will always remember that one.Messofanego
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I think that's kind of also the tech not being there.
If the tech was "there", I'd simply expect the narrative designer to specify "gruffly angry" or "moderately amused" and the engine transalting this to the correct facial expressions and body language
You just reminded me of Schizopolis, which is only a good thing XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0vp7cZGvCo&t=4m08s
viveks86
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I think that's kind of also the tech not being there.
If the tech was "there", I'd simply expect the narrative designer to specify "gruffly angry" or "moderately amused" and the engine transalting this to the correct facial expressions and body language
Speaking my mind!
I'm sure this is being done to some extent already. It just seems like that "library" of combinations needs to grow wider and more nuanced. We'll get there eventually, me thinks.
Fiery Phoenix
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I believe video games in general are still a ways off with regards to lifelike facial animations. We've come a considerably long way over the last decade, but I think we're still about another decade away from actually GETTING there.
So, I suspect by the time PS5 and Xbox Two get here, we will have achieved enough for that level of facial expressions to become the norm across the board.
So, I suspect by the time PS5 and Xbox Two get here, we will have achieved enough for that level of facial expressions to become the norm across the board.
viveks86
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Yup. Even if you take games like the last of us, their cutscene animations are way more nuanced than in-game. Their lips and gestures are rarely ever in sync during in game dialog. Charcters still shrug, twist and spasm arbitrarily while delivering dialog and it throws them right back into uncanny valley. Given my background in amateur theater, I find this pretty important for immersion. It annoys me when I see random body language that is at odds with the words being said. The order 1886 avoided this for the most part by keeping most of the dialog serious and low key. Even their attempt at humor was deadpan, so it rarely stuck out
Since uncharted 4 is doing everything in realtime, I expect to see a huge leap forward. Quantum break seems to be getting there too. Eventually all that hand animated stuff will turn into easy and reusable templates that can work for a big open world game with a huge number of characters and body types. But yeah, we are a loooong way from that.
Also, lol @ xbox two
Fiery Phoenix
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^ Is that legit?
Lakerchick4life
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Gonna get this game for sure just not sure for what console..any difference between the PS4 and XBOX ONE version or are they both basically the same
From a Spanish videogames wholesaler.
drotahorror
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Loved W2, was gonna get W3 for sure sometime. But now I think it's a day 1 purchase. Sick trailer. PC or PS4, that is the question, I'd say I'm lookin at 30fps either way.
PS4 is 1080p, Xbone is 900p. Not sure about any other graphical effects.
Until patch 1.35 The Witcher 2's combat was amazing,
That was the way I used to fight:
https://youtu.be/1LJnR6E6sEU?t=48s
A bit less polished but more physical Arkham game.
Swordplay was neat and and crowd control exhilarating. The approach and level of satisfaction were kind of 'martial'.
2.0 and XBox 360 version were garbage: they removed alot of collsions, grip and tightness.
bengraven
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Agreed.
Witcher 2 combat features the most waggling sword combat I've seen since the old Wizards and Warriors days.
This is how you know which plebs only played the games and didn't read the books.
Fiery Phoenix
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Jay Shadow
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Although to be fair, I like Triss more in the books than in the games.
But Yen still wins.
silvermember
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People like you are worse than game if throne book fans.
Or, you know, different opinions.
Head over to the official forums and you'll still see a fair few people who've read the books yet prefer Triss.
I myself, even if slightly bias towards Yen, am still waiting for the game and see how it represents both characters. Lots has gone down in the 5 year gap between the end of the novels and TW3, not to mention with Ciri coming back, I'm just going to follow my gut and try my best to not let book bias get in the way of my choice.
firebranded
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I still keep watching the trailer LOL
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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Fiery Phoenix
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I did, and I did say it maybe the video.
Fiery Phoenix
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Fiery Phoenix
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I bought Witcher 2 when it was released on 360 and that was how I got into the series.
Witcher 3 is supposedly newcomer-friendly, but if I were you I would play at least the second game beforehand. (Though, you can always just spoil the events on YouTube/Wiki but that wouldn't be quite as effective as actually playing through the games.)
That's some terrible photoshop. Plus, if there really was a bundle, the background wouldn't just be a forest.
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Never realized Ubisoft was doing it first. Those are some great ones. I had only caught Rockstar's and assumed they had started the trend.
One graphical thing I've noticed at times is that peoples' skin under the armpit has some weird tiling going on:
On the other hand, this is the level of minor npc characters? Damn!
Y'all are nuts calling this the best looking open world game. That lighting and coloring is harsh.
Thankfully, there's still some incredible scope and things look better in general around the world.
CarbonFire
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The 7850 is definitely weaker than the min-spec 7870, but that doesn't mean you're completely SOL. You may have to run it at XBOne levels though (900p/medium settings). If you're worried about it though, let someone else take the plunge first, unless you're planning on upgrading soon anyway.
bryanee
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I'm intrigued. What is the best looking open world game?
Lol can't wait for the next pointless thing for you to complain about.
WhiskerFrisker
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This. A very good year for me.
Agreed. It looks like someone photoshopped the AC bundle and added a forest in the background.
Dictator93
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So I saw that this trailer uses footage from the sword of detiny trailer (which had Hairworks and ultra settings on).
This scene shows off what Hairworks will look like on Geralt (individual strands):
And this scene shows off what the Bokeh on Ultra will most likely look like (notice the shape):
Otherwise High, what this trailer is basically made up of / console quality, seems to have a normal Gaussian DOF and bog-standard physicalized hair fins:
And if Ultra does not have these obvious settings (those individual hairstrands or the bokeh), then we can definitely say the game has be "downgraded."
This scene shows off what Hairworks will look like on Geralt (individual strands):
And this scene shows off what the Bokeh on Ultra will most likely look like (notice the shape):
Otherwise High, what this trailer is basically made up of / console quality, seems to have a normal Gaussian DOF and bog-standard physicalized hair fins:
And if Ultra does not have these obvious settings (those individual hairstrands or the bokeh), then we can definitely say the game has be "downgraded."
According to the developers they didn't even show Ultra settings yet.
http://wccftech.com/cd-projekt-the-witcher-3-ultra-will-be-a-slap-in-the-face-new-gdc-gameplay/
Dictator93
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The sword of destiny trailer, so long ago, did have cvar settings higher than those shown in the most recent trailer (bokeh and hairwroks). But yeah... seeing ultra in full will be rather interesting. I cannot wait.