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[Rootbeer]

Iceman!

Glad to have you among us, Bobby.

Makes Fox's X-Men 1 & 2 seem a bit strange now.

Confirming a long-held fan theory, pages from “All-New X-Men” #40 have leaked online ahead of Wednesday’s release that reveal Iceman is gay.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-comics-outs-all-new-x-man

Further reading:

New article with words from Bendis

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...oughts-intentions-behind-all-new-x-men-outing

 

[Duane Cunningham]

That's cool.

 

[……forgetit]

Umm......that's a shocker

 

[Rootbeer]

Umm......that's a shocker

Considering your avatar and that it is supposedly a "long-hend fan theory"... i'm guessing sarcasm? I don't read the X-books like I used to

I really need to get more into comics again.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

what's the logic behind this?

oh god the actual reveal is straight up terrible, coming from jean's telepathy.

 

[Deft Beck]

I dislike that they have to "unveil" a gay character. There is always a spectacle around the reveal for marketing purposes and then the gay character is put back on the shelf while the major characters continue as normal.

 

[Shuggananas]

Isn't he the one that dates ellen page in the x men movies ? 1, 2, 3 and even DOFP iirc

 

[Sojgat]

That's cool.

 

[Weiss]

I fucking knew it!

 

[Hystzen]

Iceman wait what? He had quite a few female members of x-men team

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Apparently it's Iceman from the past who is gay, not present time Iceman.

Ok

 

[Pagusas]

Seems pretty forced and weird.

 

[Data West]

Is All-New Jean's characteristic that she's nosey as fuck?

That panel's awkward to read. Why's it her business?

 

[Alavard]

I'm reminded of this scene from X-Men 2, which Brian Singer quite obviously used (and specifically mentioned during the dvd commentary) mutant powers as a metaphor for being gay.

 

[Gambit]

Somewhere Brian Singer is calling Shawn Ashmore

 

[richiek]

Iceman!

Glad to have you among us, Bobby.

Makes Fox's X-Men 1 & 2 seem a bit strange now.

"Have you tried not being a mutant?"

 

[Maninthemirror]

why cant a character just be gay or straight in a comic rather than unveil it. this sounds like announcing something for the sake of announcing and saying hey we do this too.

 

[Rootbeer]

Apparently it's Iceman from the past who is gay, not present time Iceman.

Ok

How does that even work... is marvel commenting on the nature of homosexuality and how it may not be innate? assuming the "all-new" x-men are from the same planet just in the past? or is it another dimension or something?

"Have you tried not being a mutant?"

Yes, that feels a bit telling in the wake of this... but that doesn't explain the rogue relationship! Is he really going to put THAT much effort into a beard?

 

[BronsonLee]

"Have you tried not being a mutant?"

Jesus Christ

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

And I thought people were joking with that.

 

[Parch]

Maybe he should "come out" of the fridge.

 

[entremet]

Apparently it's Iceman from the past who is gay, not present time Iceman.

Ok

Oh. That's really confusing. Is Marvel going Infinite Crisis style now?

 

[Trojita]

 

[Loxley]

Iceman!

Glad to have you among us, Bobby.

Makes Fox's X-Men 1 & 2 seem a bit strange now.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-comics-outs-all-new-x-man

The ironic thing is that scene in X-Men 2 where Bobby "comes out" to his parents as a mutant - which was a pretty direct metaphor for coming out as gay.

"Have you tried...not being a mutant?"

 

[E the Shaggy]

To explain, this is the young "past" version of Iceman who was brought to the present.

I mean, none of it really makes any sense but there you go.

 

[jon bones]

i think they mean "bi"

 

[Fuchsdh]

I dislike that they have to "unveil" a gay character. There is always a spectacle around the reveal for marketing purposes and then the gay character is put back on the shelf while the major characters continue as normal.

Yeah, like a lot of people I think that society will have "made it" when companies don't feel like they can trumpet this and try and get publicity and goodwill from it.

Iceman as gay seems odd from my comics reading, but I haven't read any of the newer stuff aside from Ultimates so I dunno what "fan theory" is supported. You think they'd make some of theses characters bi given that most of them have long-established heterosexual relationships in the comics.

The ironic thing is that scene in X-Men 2 where Bobby "comes out" to his parents as a mutant - which was a pretty direct metaphor for coming out as gay.

"Have you tried...not being a mutant?"

Well, that's Bryan Singer for you. The "mutants are like homosexuals" parallel is an interesting one and worked as updating the original "other" element of the X-Men, although I think Singer's films flogged that point a bit too hard.

 

[Alavard]

i think they mean "bi"

From the linked article:

"After an initial denial and a suggestion that he might be bisexual, Iceman finally agrees with Jean that he’s “full gay.”"

 

[birthday-suit]

lame.

bendi's is outright copying off the cbr forums now.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Lol no. Iceman and Rogue forever.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Maybe he should "come out" of the fridge.

freezer, bro. Come on!

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Is All-New Jean's characteristic that she's nosey as fuck?

That panel's awkward to read. Why's it her business?

It's even more awkward because of that insufferable "re-use panel art for awkward silence" thing

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Oh. That's really confusing. Is Marvel going Infinite Crisis style now?

Possibly, but that's unrelated to this. The teenaged original five X-Men come forward into the future a couple of years ago to mix with their modern day counterparts because raisins.

 

[KenzinFive]

Apparently it's Iceman from the past who is gay, not present time Iceman.

Ok

Reminds me of when Green Lantern was revealed to be gay in New 52, but "It's actually the old school Green Lantern Alan Scott on a parallel world and not the current one so look at how progressive we are and please don't freak out. Also, his boyfriend is now dead."

 

[Rootbeer]

To explain, this is the young "past" version of Iceman who was brought to the present.

I mean, none of it really makes any sense but there you go.

so it's the exact same iceman (same planet, etc.) just brought into the present?

yeah, I can see a lot of people in the LGBT community taking issue with the fact he is gay but the other, older iceman is not... how do they explain that?

 

[Penguin]

It's a weird way to out someone... but literally reading their deepest thoughts and having em confront it.

 

[Disgraced]

I dislike that they have to "unveil" a gay character. There is always a spectacle around the reveal for marketing purposes and then the gay character is put back on the shelf while the major characters continue as normal.

Seems pretty forced and weird.

Agreed, but at the least, by making it an "unveiling" event it will get attention, get people talking about and addressing issues. Which is good, even if it comes from a shallow marketing thing.

 

[Einbroch]

"Look how progressive we are."

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Yes, that feels a bit telling in the wake of this... but that doesn't explain the rogue relationship! Is he really going to put THAT much effort into a beard?

Well he couldn't really bang Rogue until 3, and that's about the time he started hanging out with Ellen Page.

 

[Trojita]

Jean Grey's flawless logic "Kitty Pryde is no longer on Planet Earth" which automatically makes Bobby "Full Gay".

That page is a fucking mess.

 

[E the Shaggy]

Jean Grey's flawless logic "Kitty Pryde is no longer on Planet Earth" which automatically makes Bobby "Full Gay".

Colossus must also be gay.

 

[Hagi]

This is a long held fan theory? Bobby has been around the X women more times than Scott has shouted JEEAAAAANNNNN

Doing this is not really a problem as young bobby is pretty much an entirely different character than old bobby. The issue I take is how it is presented with Jean outing him and them shooting down any notion of him being bi because sexuality is such a binary thing. Bendis is just too on the nose with the way he writes. I look forward to how they are going to handle this at large, probably with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

 

[Gartooth]

so it's the exact same iceman (same planet, etc.) just brought into the present?

yeah, I can see a lot of people in the LGBT community taking issue with the fact he is gay but the other, older iceman is not... how do they explain that?

It seems that the original Ice Man is also gay, but he just hides/denies it. According to that comic strip at least.

 

[Fury451]

The reveal sounds so awkward and poorly written, especially with the use of "full gay".

 

[Kai Dracon]

Announcing basic character traits like this for marketing purposes is really dumb and not classy. And as said above, it's ironic to the point of being silly: not only does Marvel already have openly gay characters, the X-Men have already long functioned as a metaphor for prejudice against all sorts of minorities.

This is like, the definition of a non-interesting plot development.

 

[Hystzen]

Colossus must also be gay.

Ultimate verse Colossus was gay

 

[kirblar]

There's a Crisis-style event coming- pretty sure this is intended to make no sense from a logic perspective because of that.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

That high class writing.

Psychic girl says you're "full gay", wtf does that even mean

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Apparently it's Iceman from the past who is gay, not present time Iceman.

Ok

But then, given the context, wouldn't present day Iceman also be gay? I mean, is Bobby discovering he's gay a product of the time travel stuff? Or maybe when he gets back to his time, he gets mind wiped so present day Bobby never experiments?

I have so many questions...

EDIT: apparently, the implication is that present Bobby is closeted. Hrm...

 

[Sectorseven]