The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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Shapeshifter Barry is amazing.

So creepy. :P

I was a little disappointed.

There is so much more meat on the bone for this villian with the whole Infiltration of Star Labs

I would love to see more meta humans seeking to learn more about their own nature and what caused their transformation. I think Hartley was the last truly clever and motivated villain that I care about.
 
Urghhhh...Flash/Barry keep having himself beaten by the shapeshifter for plot convenience made me mad so much. They need to stop doing this.

The moment with fake Barry and Caitlin was great though.
 
Urghhhh...Flash/Barry keep having himself beaten by the shapeshifter for plot convenience made me mad so much. They need to stop doing this.

The moment with fake Barry and Caitlin was great though.

Yeah.... they need to find more clever ways around these logical inconsistencies

Anytime Barry is one on one with a villian the fight is basically over. At least the shapeshifter had an edge by being undetectable in more circumstances. They hinted at his ablitity to trick and infiltrate but never capitalized on it.

Unfortunately I feel like the creators have repeatedly given us the "turn off your brain and go with it" message many times in both shows.

They want us to take the Lost approach and just enjoy the story and not worry about the details

Is this an inevitable outcome from every creative property?
 
Urghhhh...Flash/Barry keep having himself beaten by the shapeshifter for plot convenience made me mad so much. They need to stop doing this.

Not to mention he let the guy run away from him...twice. This is the same guy that ran to another city and back in barely any time. Walking people should basically be frozen to him if he wants.
 
Yeah.... they need to find more clever ways around these logical inconsistencies

Anytime Barry is one on one with a villian the fight is basically over. At least the shapeshifter had an edge by being undetectable in more circumstances. They hinted at his ablitity to trick and infiltrate but never capitalized on it.

Unfortunately I feel like the creators have repeatedly given us the "turn off your brain and go with it" message many times in both shows.

They want us to take the Lost approach and just enjoy the story and not worry about the details

Is this an inevitable outcome from every creative property?
For a moment, I thought, "oh cool, they found an interesting way to have a meta human that Barry would have to approach cleverly. Since he can't touch the guy and the meta human might be able to copy his speed"
That was the perfect way to have Barry use his speed in an inventive way to catch the guy without running into the dumbing down issue. But nope, ended in another one-on-one confrontation that should have been over in a second
 
The suspense to see these two face off made me draw this.

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Used Eobard Thawne as a reference instead of Wells
 
How have I watched this show this long and not noticed...


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That the CCPD has the GODDAMNED JUSTICE LEAGUE in its lobby?!

Yeah, I thought about it too. The camera even zoomed up so it wasn't even subtle. I can definitely see something similar to Green Arrow and Aquaman, but since there wasn't someone dressed up as a Batman, I gave up. :P
 
Yeah, I thought about it too. The camera even zoomed up so it wasn't even subtle. I can definitely see something similar to Green Arrow and Aquaman, but since there wasn't someone dressed up as a Batman, I gave up. :P


Bats is the dude between Arrow and Supes.


I don't know the first guy, then Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman, Arrow, Aquaman.
 
I loved Shapeshifter Barry's "Yes... her." when Iris got to STAR Labs.

Perfect mix of being pissed off at his kiss being interrupted and wondering who the hell Iris is.
 
I think:
Hera/Hestia/Whatever - Wonder Woman
Zeus - Superman
Hades ( guy next to Zeus ) - Batman
Hephaestus - Green Lantern? Or Cyborg
Hermes - Flash, lol
Apollo - Arrow, lol
Poseidon - Aquaman

I love that mural.
 
Bats is the dude between Arrow and Supes.


I don't know the first guy, then Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman, Arrow, Aquaman.

Hah, yes, I can see Flash now with his symbol. Though I didn't notice Batman and Superman because, well, the middle guy looks like Zeus and the beards threw me off.

I think the first guy is probably Green Lantern, since you've already mentioned the other big names.


I think:
Hera/Hestia/Whatever - Wonder Woman
Zeus - Superman
Hades ( guy next to Zeus ) - Batman
Hephaestus - Green Lantern? Or Cyborg
Hermes - Flash, lol
Apollo - Arrow, lol
Poseidon - Aquaman

I love that mural.
Sounds about right. :) Though I think the most left guy is probably Green Lantern, yes.
 
haha differing opinions on these eps kind of amusing...

"awesome episode"
"worst of the season!"

Lol yeah I know these board always have people turning on the shows quick. The last two episodes were still good. People tend to get into the great episode before and think every episode has to be like that. The last two episodes didn't drop bombs like the ones before it but they were still great episodes.
 
Good episode overall:

-Lance actually being likeable again.
-Cisco and Laurel were surprisingly fun together (and that "favor" that she did for him was just funny).
-The villain was fairly interesting.
-Grant Gustin and Dainelle Panabaker continue to have great chemistry.
-Eddie was good.
-Iris was actually tolerable.

However, the last scene was a big plot contrivance. So Wells, this guy who has gone to so much trouble to hide his identity, including murdering people, just:

-Builds his "secret lair" in the same damn building that Barry and co work in on a daily basis.

-He doesn't have any kind of biometric lock coded to his own DNA or something on the door, so just anyone can apparently open it.

-He didn't bother to install any kind of alarm system to go off in case anyone other than him goes in there.

It certainly didn't kill the episode for me or anything, but it was the biggest flaw.
 
So basically Flash disappeared in 2024.

The particle accelerator was only supposed to be completed by 2020.

Eobard Thawne is the great great grandson of Eddie Thawne.

What are the chances that Eobard went back in time to 2024 to defeat The Flash who 'ruined' Eddie's life (and in a way, his), was losing, went back more in time to kill Flash when he was a kid but failed?

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Good episode overall:

-Lance actually being likeable again.
-Cisco and Laurel were surprisingly fun together (and that "favor" that she did for him was just funny).
-The villain was fairly interesting.
-Grant Gustin and Dainelle Panabaker continue to have great chemistry.
-Eddie was good.
-Iris was actually tolerable.

However, the last scene was a big plot contrivance. So Wells, this guy who has gone to so much trouble to hide his identity, including murdering people, just:

-Builds his "secret lair" in the same damn building that Barry and co work in on a daily basis.

-He doesn't have any kind of biometric lock coded to his own DNA or something on the door, so just anyone can apparently open it.

-He didn't bother to install any kind of alarm system to go off in case anyone other than him goes in there.

It certainly didn't kill the episode for me or anything, but it was the biggest flaw.

I'm counting on Gideon turning on Eobard.
 
Good episode overall:

-Lance actually being likeable again.
-Cisco and Laurel were surprisingly fun together (and that "favor" that she did for him was just funny).
-The villain was fairly interesting.
-Grant Gustin and Dainelle Panabaker continue to have great chemistry.
-Eddie was good.
-Iris was actually tolerable.

However, the last scene was a big plot contrivance. So Wells, this guy who has gone to so much trouble to hide his identity, including murdering people, just:

-Builds his "secret lair" in the same damn building that Barry and co work in on a daily basis.

-He doesn't have any kind of biometric lock coded to his own DNA or something on the door, so just anyone can apparently open it.

-He didn't bother to install any kind of alarm system to go off in case anyone other than him goes in there.

It certainly didn't kill the episode for me or anything, but it was the biggest flaw.

Opens by Speed Force residue. Explains how Barry opened it.
 
Good episode overall:

-Lance actually being likeable again.
-Cisco and Laurel were surprisingly fun together (and that "favor" that she did for him was just funny).
-The villain was fairly interesting.
-Grant Gustin and Dainelle Panabaker continue to have great chemistry.
-Eddie was good.
-Iris was actually tolerable.

However, the last scene was a big plot contrivance. So Wells, this guy who has gone to so much trouble to hide his identity, including murdering people, just:

-Builds his "secret lair" in the same damn building that Barry and co work in on a daily basis.

-He doesn't have any kind of biometric lock coded to his own DNA or something on the door, so just anyone can apparently open it.

-He didn't bother to install any kind of alarm system to go off in case anyone other than him goes in there.

It certainly didn't kill the episode for me or anything, but it was the biggest flaw.

If anyone was to actually dig at all the logical pitfalls they would be stacking up REALLY high right now

I think its past time to consider this show to be entirely plot driven at this point. It doesn't seem like they plan on grounding the world by upholding the details.

Its fine. Just means that the plot will have to make up for the all the nonsense that tends to pull people out of the world immersion.
 
I hope we can get another Arrow/Flash spin-off show with Henry Allen, Detective Joe, Detective Lance, and Diggle driving in a van solving meta-crimes across the country.

SUPER DADS.
 
However, the last scene was a big plot contrivance. So Wells, this guy who has gone to so much trouble to hide his identity, including murdering people, just:

-Builds his "secret lair" in the same damn building that Barry and co work in on a daily basis.

-He doesn't have any kind of biometric lock coded to his own DNA or something on the door, so just anyone can apparently open it.

-He didn't bother to install any kind of alarm system to go off in case anyone other than him goes in there.

It certainly didn't kill the episode for me or anything, but it was the biggest flaw.

Yeah I was surprised how easy it was for them to enter and Gideon didn't seem to be around.

It was also strange how Iris was able to just walk into STAR Labs. Surely there should be a lock or a keycode on the front door, even the Arrow basement has that.

Speaking of STAR Labs, both Iris and Shapeshifter Barry were in the room where the Flash suit should have been on full display yet it was conveniently hidden out of sight despite them never hiding the suit before.

But I really shouldn't nitpick The Flash or it'd really start to ruin my enjoyment of it.
 
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