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[Noisepurge]

Wasn't a fan, felt like it went backwards from the quality that was Winter Soldier and Guardians.

This was again just too much of "CGI monsters wrestling" without much content. Felt like Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 -levels of quality.

Banter was fun as always with Whedon movies, even though it made everything super lighthearted when even Ultron is just cracking jokes and being a "silly robot" most of the time.

The whole meteor-city was resolved too easily too, cheap instant spawning Helicarrier. Was thinking that they would have to destroy the city and everyone in it to save the world, and that would be the catalyst for Civil War.

End credits scene was a disappointment too

 

[V_Ben]

Really enjoyed that. Disappointed that we didn't see more of Quicksilver before he ate it, but it was a damn good time.

I really want to see that second Scarlet Witch costume properly. It looked so good!

 

[Renekton]

End credits scene was a disappointment too

Kinda funny to see Thanos picking up an empty glove, any more setbacks and he's an ineffectual villain.

 

[Mandius]

Kinda funny to see Thanos picking up an empty glove, any more setbacks and he's an ineffectual villain.

He gave away an infinity gem. Isn't that all he is after?

 

[Vampirolol]

Let's talk about Ultron's ridicolous bodycount. Is it like 1?

 

[Iceternal]

Let's talk about Ultron's ridicolous bodycount. Is it like 1?

And he used a jet to do it ...

 

[Renekton]

Let's talk about Ultron's ridicolous bodycount. Is it like 1?

Remember the scene where Hill reported Ultron's bots going around getting supplies and equipment? During the raids, she mentioned there were only casualties if forces attacked the bots.

No idea why though :/

 

[FeD.nL]

Well what I found strange, perhaps a plot hole, is that Jarvis was the one keeping Ultron from getting access to the nucleair codes, so who was doing that when Jarvis became Vision?

 

[benzy]

Is Ultron really dead or is there a good possibility he can come back?

 

[Waldini]

Is Ultron really dead or is there a good possibility he can come back?

In the Marvel universe, no one is ever truly dead.

That's why I believe Quicksilver will be given the treatment Hawkeye received.

Saw the movie yesterday. Loved every second of it. For me, it's on par with the first Avengers.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Is Ultron really dead or is there a good possibility he can come back?

Hopefully still alive. I want to see Marvel do an adaptation of Annihilation: Conquest for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

 

[ClivePwned]

I saw it today and really really enjoyed it. My brother and I are already planning to see it a second time (also we are neither of us that young). I was kinda meh on the movie up until the last trailer showed humour, and it's got a great sense of humour.

I never felt anything but boredom with Clint but he had the best lines in this film. They way he was built up, coupled with foreshadowing dialogue, I was sure he was going to get offed. Quicksilver getting killed worked quite well. I think I would have been angry had it been Hawkeye. So kudos to Joss Whedon for making me want Jeremy Renner's character not die.

The gag where he's talking about shooting Quicksilver was probably my favourite in the film.

I also loved the party, especially when they were talking about why Jane and Pepper weren't there. I also loved how they got roles for Rhodes, Falcon, Idris Elba, etc and Clint's family.

 

[Renekton]

That's why I believe Quicksilver will be given the treatment Hawkeye received.

I'm hoping too!

 

[Rosur]

Well what I found strange, perhaps a plot hole, is that Jarvis was the one keeping Ultron from getting access to the nucleair codes, so who was doing that when Jarvis became Vision?

Jarvis didn't end up becoming the vision (the vision says he's not Jarvis). Also wasn't a fan of Quicksilver/ Hawkeye bait and switch and the fact it was never confirmed that Quicksilver was fully dead (just very injured), i'm thinking he will be back for avengers 3/ civil war.

Enjoyed the film would rank it above Iron man 2 but worse that avengers 1, that said I'm thinking avengers 2 will be film to re-watch than avengers 1.

 

[Waldini]

I'm hoping too!

It's far fetched, sure... but I'd love to see Pietro again.

The thing that felt weird to me was ... the mutants are part of the Marvel Comic Universe. Yet, thanks to the rights they cant use the term mutants? Enhanced sounds so weird.

Also, I loved the Hulk vs Hulk-Buster part.

"Go to sleep! Go to sleep! Go to sleep! Go to sleep!"

 

[DoctorFling]

The final scene between Vision and Ultron was wonderful, felt lifted straight from a comic.

Really enjoyed the movie, pacing was odd at the start, but once it got past it's teething problems all was fun.

Wonder what happened to Tom Hiddleston, I thought he was going to be in this.

 

[Vampirolol]

Is Ultron really dead or is there a good possibility he can come back?

In the comics he is immortal. He should be like a singularity, something so smart that in 2 seconds has already made hundreds of backups of himself in the bahamas. Or in an abandoned satellite. Or whatever. In the movie he seems dumber... or maybe not. They just cut his development.

Remember the scene where Hill reported Ultron's bots going around getting supplies and equipment? During the raids, she mentioned there were only casualties if forces attacked the bots.

No idea why though :/

Forgot about that. Ultron kills less people than anti-vaxxer btw.

And he used a jet to do it ...

When you think about it, in that moment he is like a crazy colonel killing people randomly, singing a military song from those typical 90's action movies. Not that it's a good thing.


Edit: the last words between Ultron and Vision are the best lines in the movie.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

Wonder what happened to Tom Hiddleston, I thought he was going to be in this.

Isn't he busy sitting on the throne of Asgard, albeit in disguise...

 

[Dryk]

Remember the scene where Hill reported Ultron's bots going around getting supplies and equipment? During the raids, she mentioned there were only casualties if forces attacked the bots.

No idea why though :/

Why waste time killing a handful of people when you're raiding places to get supplies to kill all of the people

 

[FeD.nL]

Jarvis didn't end up becoming the vision (the vision says he's not Jarvis). Also wasn't a fan of Quicksilver/ Hawkeye bait and switch and the fact it was never confirmed that Quicksilver was fully dead (just very injured), i'm thinking he will be back for avengers 3/ civil war.

Enjoyed the film would rank it above Iron man 2 but worse that avengers 1, that said I'm thinking avengers 2 will be film to re-watch than avengers 1.

I know, but it is Jarvis' AI that gets mixed with whatever parts of Ultron that got uploaded and the Mind Gem that form Vision. Jarvis is no longer an AI as evidenced by Tony switching to friday as his AI in the final battle.

 

[Vampirolol]

Why waste time killing a handful of people when you're raiding places to get supplies to kill all of the people

I thougt about that too. But we needed at least him saying it, like a tv message with "I love you so I won't kill you. I will just extinguish humanity" things like that.

 

[Dryk]

That reminds me. I thought it was really funny that Tony just has a stash of spare AIs lying around.

 

[Tacitus_]

Ultron went into "fuck it, everyone dies" mode after he lost the new body in the cradle. Before that he was blabbering about evolving humanity.

 

[Renekton]

That reminds me. I thought it was really funny that Tony just has a stash of spare AIs lying around.

http://comicbook.com/2015/04/11/avengers-age-of-ultron-features-an-archie-comics-reference/

haha

 

[NotLiquid]

Jarvis didn't end up becoming the vision (the vision says he's not Jarvis). Also wasn't a fan of Quicksilver/ Hawkeye bait and switch and the fact it was never confirmed that Quicksilver was fully dead (just very injured), i'm thinking he will be back for avengers 3/ civil war

I was hoping this too and almost kind of expecting it (Hawkeye bringing him back onto the carrier, his oddly off-kilter line after getting on board) but the lack of him in the new lineup makes me think its as absolute as far as non-cosmic entities go at the moment, especially when Cho could have used that regen bed on him.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Oh yeah, can somebody explain something because I think I forgot something huge from Iron Man 3 or am misremembering because it was so forgettable.

Didn't Tony destroy all of his suits and shit and give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 for Pepper? What happened?

 

[raven777]

http://i.imgur.com/lqGEumU.jpg

Was this in the movie? It looks like the fountain that Thor enters, but I don't remember seeing this person in the movie.

 

[Renekton]

Oh yeah, can somebody explain something because I think I forgot something huge from Iron Man 3 or am misremembering because it was so forgettable.

Didn't Tony destroy all of his suits and shit and give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 for Pepper? What happened?

Operation Clean Slate? He destroyed his existing suits but didn't say anything about not making new ones.

My interpretation is his character growth in IM3 is not about giving up suits, but about being effective as hero without it when required.

 

[Gambit]

Oh yeah, can somebody explain something because I think I forgot something huge from Iron Man 3 or am misremembering because it was so forgettable.

Didn't Tony destroy all of his suits and shit and give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 for Pepper? What happened?

yes, he kinda did. But now he built new ones and that plot development doesn't matter anymore. Unless you want to say his willingness to build Ultron shows that he does want to go home and be a family man. He actually says something along those lines, if I remember. Still the ending of IM3 is basically negated.

 

[NotLiquid]

Oh yeah, can somebody explain something because I think I forgot something huge from Iron Man 3 or am misremembering because it was so forgettable.

Didn't Tony destroy all of his suits and shit and give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 for Pepper? What happened?

It wasn't so much that he "gave up" being Iron Man more than it was literally just a "clean slate". Those suits he made were garbage anyway since he had prioritized quantity over quality in his whole PTSD moments.

The whole ending of Iron Man 3 had more to do with how his ingenuity defines him, not the suits. I think that sort of plays into AoU in a way, he's the benefactor and is notably responsible for upgrading everyone, even after he leaves. Its also interesting how Vision kind of spawns out of that.

 

[vareon]

Oh yeah, can somebody explain something because I think I forgot something huge from Iron Man 3 or am misremembering because it was so forgettable.

Didn't Tony destroy all of his suits and shit and give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 for Pepper? What happened?

AoU kiiiind of regressed Tony. I think Shane Black wants Tony to have a standalone closure but Whedon need him back to make Ultron so it feels a bit disjointed. It can be explained with "Tony loses his obsession with suits but keeps researching his tech for Avengers purposes" or something, but I can't help to feel a bit weird.

The team's first mission in AoU also feels like they have been doing missions as a team for a while.

 

[Dryk]

I guess the point is that having to deal with HYDRA drew him out of retirement. Which also explains why he's so eager to hand the baton to the Ultron program.

The movie probably would've been better for it if that was explicit

 

[KnockOneOff]

End credits scene was a disappointment too

So it wasnt that spiderman with that was put online?

 

[Mendrox]

Tony didn't give up anything. He destroyed every suit for a clean state and also said that he doesn't need the suits to be Iron Man... because he is Iron Man himself. He accepted his human part and his role. Everybody forgot this movie.

 

[Waldini]

The suits he made in Iron-Man 3 was because ... well, Tony wants to have EVERYTHING under control. After he entered the wormhole he was overcome with fear. Fear of the unknown. So, after that endevour Tony does wat he does best. Build suits to protect him from everything.

Think about it, he had a suit for everything. Space, underwater, fire, stealth ... it was all there. After he realised that not a single suit would give him the protection he needed he gave up trying to stay in control. After Tony realised that he IS Iron Man (with or without the suit) he just accepted the way it is.

In Age of Ultron he tried to create an AI that would help stabilise the "world" and everything that came from beyond. There's only 6 Avengers. They can't stop everything.

 

[Dilly]

Stark's vision of The Avengers dead was amazing.

 

[Waldini]

Stark's vision of The Avengers dead was amazing.

Gave me the chills. Was expecting a huge jump-scare when Captain America started talking to Tony.

Felt uneasy seeing the Hulk with these "staffs" stabbed in his back. Trying everything he could to get up... only to die shortly after.

 

[razzmahtazz]

The suits he made in Iron-Man 3 was because ... well, Tony wants to have EVERYTHING under control. After he entered the wormhole he was overcome with fear. Fear of the unknown. So, after that endevour Tony does wat he does best. Build suits to protect him from everything.

Think about it, he had a suit for everything. Space, underwater, fire, stealth ... it was all there. After he realised that not a single suit would give him the protection he needed he gave up trying to stay in control. After Tony realised that he IS Iron Man (with or without the suit) he just accepted the way it is.

In Age of Ultron he tried to create an AI that would help stabilise the "world" and everything that came from beyond. There's only 6 Avengers. They can't stop everything.

So Scarlett Witch's real power is retconning character development.

 

[Waldini]

So Scarlett Witch's real power is retconning character development.

Correct

 

[matrix-cat]

Whedon's quipping seems almost like a nervous tick at this point. I really disliked it in the first Avengers, and it's definitely toned down in this one, but, man, it's like he just can't let Ultron just be a scary robot man for one whole scene. Juuuust when you think he's escaped a scene without being a goofball he has to throw in something dumb right at the end that makes him come off like a Scooby Doo villain. Exact same thing Whedon did with Loki in the first movie: set up what should be an awesome villain, then keep undermining him at every possible opportunity. That bit where he accidentally cuts off Klaw's arm and practically does a Steve Urkel "Did I do thaaaat?" straight down the barrel of the camera was ridiculous.

Still, loved the movie overall. The action was amazing (the big one-shot action scene shits all over the one in the first movie), the characters were all spot-on, ridiculous ending setpiece was wonderfully over the top in all the right ways. I loved the 'Cap doesn't like naughty language' running joke. Thor's little mid-movie sojourn to some random pond in a cave and the revelation that comes with it is completely fucking inscrutable, and they play fast and loose with exactly why Hydra had an entire army of Ultron drones already made before Ultron even existed, but whatevs. I think Cap 2 is still my favourite MCU movie overall, but this one is a strong top tier entry.

Now to sit back and wait for all the "Ten reasons why Black Widow's portrayal in Avengers 2 is problematic" thinkpieces to come out.

 

[PARANO1A]

Saw it tonight and thought it was pretty disappointing. Quicksilver was trash and died on debut, Scarlet was pretty pointless, Hulk may as well not have been present for all the value he added, forced romance out of nowhere, and Vision popping up like "hi guys I'm in this movie now, let's have a final epic battle."

Enjoyed a few one liners though. And what a cock tease not having Black Panther in Wakanda.

Probably rates at Iron Man 3 levels for me,which would be the worst of the modern marvel movies.

 

[NotLiquid]

So Scarlett Witch's real power is retconning character development.

Well, interestingly enough, I dont think Iron Man 3 fully resolved that particular PTSD vision in a sense. In Iron Man 3 it was all about his inadequacy but in AoU its more about his friends. Whedon said that he couldnt assume the entire audience would have seen all the Phase 2 movies.

I think whats actually pretty good about the whole plot trope of man made AI goes nuts in this particular movie is that Tony wholly embraces it. He takes his fear by the balls and when he creates Vision, he's actually justified in doing it, which is even crazier since it also stemmed from the mind of Ultron.

I'm not going to lie, the most impressive part to me was when Tony and Cap had their skirmish in that moment. Tony was actually right in embracing his own vision. He actually proved Cap wrong. He lived up to his ingenuity.

 

[Jables Swan]

Really enjoyed the movie. I liked it better than the first movie. Loved Scarlet Witch and The Vision. I thought they were great new characters. Quicksilver was fun and it's a bummer he was killed off just when he was getting good. Hawkguy pretty much steals the show for me.

 

[Entryhazard]

So Scarlett Witch's real power is retconning character development.

Isn't that her power in the comics too?

 

[Renekton]

So Scarlett Witch's real power is retconning character development.

Isn't that her power in the comics too?

Yup.

 

[hamchan]

I think it was kinda bad that they killed off Quicksilver. Like, no emotional connection to that character at all since he was only in this movie. Maybe it's for the best since he doesn't really rate compared to the DofP Quicksilver. Also why people aren't giving Tony Stark more shit in the end for creating this crazy robot that destroyed a whole city I don't know.

I liked that Whedon upped his action scenes though. Much better than the Avengers 1 in that regard. Though the final battle didn't feel as epic as the Avengers 1 finale.

Hawkeye character development was great, well needed considering his dull character in the first, and it also gives him a legit excuse to not be in every movie since he's probably on vacation with his family or something. I like that Whedon packed in character development for nearly everyone and gave them legitimate reasons to not want to be doing the Avengers stuff anymore. It was a really packed film in that regard, and I can see it being a bit hard to follow for the more casual crowd.

 

[razzmahtazz]

I think I was disappointed that this wasnt in the movie. There was no sense of dread in that final battle scene of them being beaten because you just know its the final HOORAH Battle and the music turns up. But I have to say, I just forgot about that disappointment 3-5 seconds into that final battle scene, laughing excitedly at what I was seeing.

 

[NotLiquid]

I think it was kinda bad that they killed off Quicksilver. Like, no emotional connection to that character at all since he was only in this movie. Maybe it's for the best since he doesn't really rate compared to the DofP Quicksilver. Also why people aren't giving Tony Stark more shit in the end for creating this crazy robot that destroyed a whole city I don't know

The cities that Ultron ruined hardly thought much of Tony to begin with and its not like they know he made Ultron. The only shit they got was because of Hulk rampaging, which is part of the reason he leaves.

I think I was disappointed that this wasnt in the movie. There was no sense of dread in that final battle scene of them being beaten because you just know its the final HOORAH Battle and the music turns up. But I have to say, I just forgot about that disappointment 3-5 seconds into that final battle scene, laughing excitedly at what I was seeing.

That sequence of everyone banding together to defend the spire was easily one of Whedon's best directed action sequences.

 

[Shuggananas]

So what gems remain ?

We have :
Time : tesseract
?? (reality) : ether
Power : orb
Mind : loki's sceptre/vision

I'm guessing there will be one introduced in avengers 3.1 (time ?), so they will need to introduce the other one (soul ?) in some phase 3 movie, maybe thor ragnarok

 

[Entryhazard]

So what gems remain ?

We have :
Time : tesseract
?? (reality) : ether
Power : orb
Mind : loki's sceptre/vision

I'm guessing there will be one introduced in avengers 3.1 (time ?), so they will need to introduce the other one (soul ?) in some phase 3 movie, maybe thor ragnarok

The tesseract is the Space one