RadioHammer500
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so does this movie lead right into Captain America: Civil War with Tony vs. Steve
i wonder if the new avengers will play a role in Civil War?
i wonder if the new avengers will play a role in Civil War?
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Avengers: Age of Ultron |Spoiler Thread| Thanos Dies in This
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Nightengale
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Also, in the first film, the 'concept' of Avengers itself was pivoted as a constant conflict point throughout the film. Even if it's not a villain, it looms over the entire cast and story beats right until that Son of Coul moment. That helps.
In the case of Ultron, there's something similar with the whole Scarlet Witch mindgames wazoo, but it's less a conflict point this time round, but rather just plot devices for character development & basically a reason for the Avengers to have some down-time in the movie.
In the case of Ultron, there's something similar with the whole Scarlet Witch mindgames wazoo, but it's less a conflict point this time round, but rather just plot devices for character development & basically a reason for the Avengers to have some down-time in the movie.
Well Black Widow, Scarlet Witch and Falcon are all confirmed to be in the film (and Hawkeye, who did retire from the team), so....yes.
Cpt.Underpants
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Watched it yesterday and I really liked it. It's an improvement to the previous one. Really enjoyed seeing the whole team fight. The Vision, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver really stood out their own. Glad to see another non-melee Avenger joined the team.
Elizabeth Olsen is really beautifuly :3
Elizabeth Olsen is really beautifuly :3
No, that was just a once-off. It's not like anyone outside of the Avengers are going to know that Fury was heading up the helicarrier.
SHIELD itself is still a fledgling new version headed by Coulson. Though we haven't seen how AoS might be tying into the movie.
Peterthumpa
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While I kind of agree, it just came to my mind that Marvel has a horrible track record of making a big impact on a given villain's unveil, usually in the first half of the movie, just to morph it into a piece of stupid crap in the second half. It's like a pattern now:
- Loki started menacing. Ended with Hulk beating the crap out of him like he wasn't a fucking god.
- Ronan started out absolutely glorious in GotG, just to stare at Star Lord's stupid dance move while Rocket got the weapon ready to kick his ass.
- Ultron legitimaly creeped me out when he showed up for the first time, and while his personality and his internal conflicts are certainly interesting and entertaining, fighting equally with Cap on a fucking moving truck, when he almost killed Iron Man in his first action sequence is just too much bullshit to grasp.
Loved the movie overall, but Marvel has to think about changing this formula, and quickly. Maybe it's something related to PG ratings, I'm unsure, but it's definitely getting more noticeable. That's why I'm hyped as fuck for the DCU movies. BvS teaser already shows that they're not planning to toy around.
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No shot beats the Scarlet Witch coming out of the shadows behind Captain with red glowing eyes shot.
Loki isn't literally "a god", you know.
Peterthumpa
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Then Thor isn't either? Naming conventions. Thor wasn't half the "God" he was in his first and second movies when fighting on earth. Loki also demonstrates powers at the beginning of the first Avengers that used wisely, would make it a far, far menacing enemy. He does the same thing in Asgard too, in the first Thor movie.
I'm not disputing he has powers, I'm just saying he isn't actually a god. The Asgardians are powerful, but they were only worshipped as gods by ancient humans, they were never literal gods.
Besides, it's not some schmoe, it's the Hulk.
That too, he's a runt Frost Giant.
Entryhazard
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It's funny because the INTERESTING VILLAIN he mentions would have been Evil Asian Businessman
This sounds like Iron Monger but reverse.
ArtHands
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i am referring to how there seens to be more SHIELD agents who know about the truth now, compare to how they led us to think it was probably made known to like 5 people or so by the end of Winter Soldiers. It was shown to be so secret that even Gonzales has no idea he was alive even at this moment, and probably only Coulson's team know about it by the end of AOS season 1.
Now we have a helicarrier load of agents and a lot more at the new facility who know about it.
Entryhazard
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In the comics they are gods among the other pantheons. It's just the definition of god in that universe that have some characteristics. They manage the afterlife of their worhippers and their powers are of mystical origins and not just "advanced aliens", yet there are creatures more powerful than them. (most gods are on the same power level of the Eternals, people like Phoenix and Sentry can go beyond, only Odin and other Skyfathers could have a chance taking on Galactus 1v1)
phazedplasma
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This is the main reason why im not excited about Ultron that much.
I'm more excited to hear the dialogue in between the action.
I would imagine he completes it at the end of Part 1. Hall raises in Part 2.
RadioHammer500
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real quick..is this scene in the movie....
just a quick "yes" or "no" spoilertag it?
real quick..is this scene in the movie....
just a quick "yes" or "no" spoilertag it?
No...........
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real quick..is this scene in the movie....
just a quick "yes" or "no" spoilertag it?
no
RadioHammer500
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disappointing
George Oscar Bluth II
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I felt immature when I laughed at Banner faceplanting on Natasha's boobs in the party attack.
FootieGamer
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Just got back from seeing it. I loved it so much, probably more than the first one.
I was really surprised that Quicksilver died, I thought he would be in some future films. Is that just me?
Hulk v Hulkbuster was fantastic and the whole end action sequence was really fun. Especially when all the avengers are in the same spot and surrounded by hundreds of robots.
I was really surprised that Quicksilver died, I thought he would be in some future films. Is that just me?
Hulk v Hulkbuster was fantastic and the whole end action sequence was really fun. Especially when all the avengers are in the same spot and surrounded by hundreds of robots.
the slo mo scene when they are all trying to protect the spire in the end is BAD ASS
one thing i don't get about the vision - what is the mind stone for? can't they just upload jarvis (or ultron upload himself) into the body?
and how come he says he's not jarvis? isn't that what stark just did?
one thing i don't get about the vision - what is the mind stone for? can't they just upload jarvis (or ultron upload himself) into the body?
and how come he says he's not jarvis? isn't that what stark just did?
i think he is like half jarvis and half ultron but a good guy
Vision is a mix of the Mindstone, whichever parts of Ultron got uploaded and Jarvis. Atleast that's how I saw it.
The mind stone is what's powering the synthetic body. And he isn't JARVIS, it's JARVIS' base programming put in the body, and combining with the mind stone, to create something new. So it's part Infinity Stone, part JARVIS, part Ultron, but ultimately is its own entity.
giant_frying_pan
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I really enjoyed it, although it was a Herculean task to cram in so many different characters and plot points.
The part towards the end where the Avengers are all defending the key in the Church is I believe the closest sequence that any comic book movie has come to evoking what comic books are all about. The other hero shot is near the start and in all the trailers, but this sequence in question just felt like the pages were coming alive. I rarely see films in 3D any more, but I had to in order to get an Atmos screening and that scene alone was worth it.
The recent Daredevil series has driven my appetite for more grounded comic book stories. I'm hoping that's what most of the Phase 3 movies are. But that said, if you are going to have everything culminate in an over-the-top blowout of one-liners every two minutes and some awesome action (special mention to the Hulk vs Hulkbuster stuff) then Age Of Ultron was a hell of a way to do it.
Another special mention to the Quicksilver scenes. Some of the slow-mo action was exceptionally well done.
To be honest though, my interest in the Infinity Wars films is a little lower now. I'm much more interested in the new character films. I have to think that final scene was cut specifically so that crowded cinemas all shout out 'ASSEMBLE!' to finish off Cap's line...not quite the same impact at a mostly empty Noon screening though!
The part towards the end where the Avengers are all defending the key in the Church is I believe the closest sequence that any comic book movie has come to evoking what comic books are all about. The other hero shot is near the start and in all the trailers, but this sequence in question just felt like the pages were coming alive. I rarely see films in 3D any more, but I had to in order to get an Atmos screening and that scene alone was worth it.
The recent Daredevil series has driven my appetite for more grounded comic book stories. I'm hoping that's what most of the Phase 3 movies are. But that said, if you are going to have everything culminate in an over-the-top blowout of one-liners every two minutes and some awesome action (special mention to the Hulk vs Hulkbuster stuff) then Age Of Ultron was a hell of a way to do it.
Another special mention to the Quicksilver scenes. Some of the slow-mo action was exceptionally well done.
To be honest though, my interest in the Infinity Wars films is a little lower now. I'm much more interested in the new character films. I have to think that final scene was cut specifically so that crowded cinemas all shout out 'ASSEMBLE!' to finish off Cap's line...not quite the same impact at a mostly empty Noon screening though!
George Oscar Bluth II
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Whedon is such a troll with that "AVENGERS --" moment. A genius troll.
Like 20 people shouted that at once in my theatre, it was awesome.
Broken Joystick
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I heard an audible groan from a lot of people when he didn't say it. The only other time there was a standout response from people was when Vision handed Thor his hammer. Everyone went a bit crazy.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I had around a half full screening. The audience were so lifeless.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Everyone just laughed in my screening
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Everyone gasped at my screening.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I initially thought that the Academy would be a huge part of S3, but there's still the problem that everyone thinks Coulson is dead. Not that it can never be resolved, but it seems to work against one another at the moment. Maybe the spin-off/new Marvel show that's being developed will focus on the Academy, leaving AoS to do its SHIELD/finding people with powers thing.
Hehe, I did let out a little "omg" because it was a great moment but then I quickly remembered why Vision can lift it.
That one was brilliant.
giant_frying_pan
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I would have loved to have shouted out, but there was only like ten people in my screening!
Nope, only the Thanos one.
Just the one.
longdi
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I think Thor was nerf'ed to be pummeled badly by Ultron. I mean Ultron is just Ironman mk2
Did the comics Vision actually lifted Thor hammer that easily?
And did Cap get a major armor buff? How did his chest survive without a scratch from Ultron laser beams?
What exactly is SW powers? To inception people with fake hallucinations? Or to let them see into the future? Why did Thor saw a glimpsed off Thanos evil plans after being mindfuck by SW?
Did the comics Vision actually lifted Thor hammer that easily?
And did Cap get a major armor buff? How did his chest survive without a scratch from Ultron laser beams?
What exactly is SW powers? To inception people with fake hallucinations? Or to let them see into the future? Why did Thor saw a glimpsed off Thanos evil plans after being mindfuck by SW?
Finaika
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Cap have a healing factor similar to Wolverine's?
RobotNinjaHornets
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Oh wow I hadn't even seen the second half of your post about Vision and Mjolnir, I was just commenting on "AVENGERS..." *credits*
But yeah everyone laughed at that too >_>
Broken Joystick
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Cap is peak human. Him and Wolverine aren't exactly 1:1 on the healing scale but he can take a big hit and walk away from it.
WanderingWind
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Wanda has the power of bullshit. Her powers do whatever the writer wants them to do.
kittoo
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Didnt like it at all, almost
I loved the first avengers, but this Marvel formula is wearing thin on me. Random action, with avengers cracking stupid jokes all the time. The gravity of the situation just doesn't feel present. It all is like an arcade game.
And I hate the fact that they represent the villains, in trailers or at the beginning of the movie, as a menacing and interesting character. And by the time the movie is half done, he is the some stupid joke cracking, like the avengers, tier 2 sidekick level villain.
Not going to watch another Marvel movie for a long time. Each of their movies get hyped up to the stratosphere and I have been continuously disappointed for quite some time now.
I loved the first avengers, but this Marvel formula is wearing thin on me. Random action, with avengers cracking stupid jokes all the time. The gravity of the situation just doesn't feel present. It all is like an arcade game.
And I hate the fact that they represent the villains, in trailers or at the beginning of the movie, as a menacing and interesting character. And by the time the movie is half done, he is the some stupid joke cracking, like the avengers, tier 2 sidekick level villain.
Not going to watch another Marvel movie for a long time. Each of their movies get hyped up to the stratosphere and I have been continuously disappointed for quite some time now.
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