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Avengers: Age of Ultron |Spoiler Thread| Thanos Dies in This

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GDJustin said:
- Does anyone really give a shit about a New Avengers line-up made up of War Machine. Falcon, and other B-teamers? What a weird, deflating note to end on. Completely wrong, tonally. We just spent over 2 hours (and 6+ movies) with this crew we love. Let's close not on them, but some JV squad instead. This final scene really worries me, in fact. It's one thing to seed little MCU references around your films, to connect them. It's another to make a movie's final scene, it's closing moment, service that MCU instead of servicing the story you just got done telling.

TL;DR:

Avengers & Guardians >>> Avengers 2 > Iron Man 2 & Incredible Hulk
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I agree with your post here. Something about A2 felt off, unlike older MCU films. Just too much setups and logic/plot jumps. Like TKDR Batman returning in Gotham, just because he is batman, and then proceeding to make elaborate fire works.

However this, anyone else noticed how old the original casts are looking rather old now?
 
Black_Stride said:
  • I dont remember if Vision has actually lifted it in the comics, but he is an android so it wouldnt be surprising if he can Lift it, because the Hammer doesnt register that he is alive....tis why the Helicarrier, shelfs, desks you name it can hold up the Hammer.
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The Earth is alive, how can it hold up the hammer if it is placed on the ground?
 
longdi said:
However this, anyone else noticed how old the original casts are looking rather old now?
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It was pretty heavy-handed haha.

Hawkeye looked particularly old, there were lines of age and weariness on the A1 team, the color schemes were slightly more drab.

At the end around when A2 team debut, there was a big burst of vibrant colors, Scarlet Witch looked like she went for Korean facials. Fresh and young!

RadioHammer500 said:
does the movie set off animosity between Steve and Tony for Civil War?
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It was heading there.... between Ultron, woodchopping scene and pre-Vision standoff.

Then at the end of the movie Steve and Tony were suddenly cool again <__<
 
Finaika said:
The Earth is alive, how can it hold up the hammer if it is placed on the ground?
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The earth isn't alive. Captain America does make a quip along these lines about whether an elevator is worthy.

And technically in the MCU the vision is alive. Scarlet Witch registers that he has a mind but not with Ultron.
 
longdi said:
I agree with your post here. Something about A2 felt off, unlike older MCU films. Just too much setups and logic/plot jumps. Like TKDR Batman returning in Gotham, just because he is batman, and then proceeding to make elaborate fire works.

However this, anyone else noticed how old the original casts are looking rather old now?
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actually i'm happy to see them switching the roster around, it's better to do this earlier than later. plus we are still seeing the original characters in future films so i'm not too worried.
 
so will Captain America: Civil War be an Avengers 2.5 movie...or will it be focused on Cap..

im really disappointing that AoU doesn't end with animosity between Cap and Tony..would of been perfect to set up Civil War
 
I believe Ultron heavily alluded to Thanos at one point...

"God sends an extinction event every time you guys get comfortable, and believe me, he's winding up...."

His basis is in the mind gem right?
 
MasterBalls said:
I believe Ultron heavily alluded to Thanos at one point...

"God sends an extinction event every time you guys get comfortable, and believe me, he's winding up...."

His basis is in the mind gem right?
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Seems like he's merely talking about evolution (AKA dinosaurs and meteor).

Thanos just wanna make everything dead, not evolve.
 
Renekton said:
Seems like he's merely talking about evolution (AKA dinosaurs and meteor).

Thanos just wanna make everything dead, not evolve.
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Yeah but I mean he was talking about huge destructive things that humans have to be ready for.

RadioHammer500 said:
so they pretty much Nerf the Hulk and Thor in this....sigh
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They do in like every single comic. People who aren't comfortable with the obvious power gap within the Avengers need to get over it.
 
MasterBalls said:
Yeah but I mean he was talking about huge destructive things that humans have to be ready for.
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It could be the other thing Marvel loves to pull which is Earth getting the attention of various "superior" aliens and cosmic forces: from skrulls to kree to galactus to kang.
 
Anybody have a picture of Scarlett Witch's costume from the end? I said DAAAAAAMN. I think I actually like the New Avengers a hell of a lot more than the original lineup. No boring Thor or attention-whore Iron Man. Here's hoping Cap 3 is basically "New Avengers", I want to see these guys in a more low-key setting before Thanos messes stuff up.


Also, Ant-Man post-credits sequence; Scott Lang knocking on the New Avengers door. "C'mon guys, I'll work for scale! Sigh..."

*silence*

*Spidey drops down from the ceiling*

"They don't know what they're missing. Jerks."
 
Sentient said:
She's seen flying in the end.

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^ as requested
 
Just saw it and I didn't really like it. Ultron was a weak ass villain, a recurring theme in marvel movies. He goes down without a fight. It's a total let down.

The whole third act is terrible. It's like whedon and marvel knew how much shit man of steel got for not saving anybody, so they spent majority of the act saving everyone. There wasn't enough action to make up for the lack of it. Nothing really stood out to me.

The whole structure of the movie was kinda bad. It felt like a bunch of crap sowed together for a frankenstein type movie. I compare this to Iron man 2, as it was too much of a set up for the next phase of movies.

I think my problem is, it's just another "robot" army for the team to beat up on. The problem with team up movies is everybody needs to be fighting someone and this time out it just felt too repetitive. I understand why they do it, its more visually entertaining, but they really need to break the mold for the next two.

I liked the humor this time around. It played well and I'm glad it did bc some of the latest marvel films have been terrible bc of all the jokes. Vision picking up the hammer in front of the group was great.

Enjoyed quicksilver. Upset they killed him and found the SW scene reacting to be comically bad.

Also the group kills a shit ton of people in the opening.
 
SliChillax said:
Ummm there was.
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Not in our showing - after the marble statues of the characters, Thanos said "Fine, I'll do it myself", credits rolled, "The Avengers will return" came up and then the lights came on.

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Alienous said:
So I'm assuming that Black Panther had the post-credits scene and it was brutally cut out because of a reduced role in Civil War (if any).

That must be it, right?
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That's what I was expecting, I was totally sure that we'd see Klaw getting his claw, but it never happened.
 
So I'm assuming that Black Panther had the post-credits scene and it was brutally cut out because of a reduced role in Civil War (if any).

That must be it, right?

ryan299 said:
Also the group kills a shit ton of people in the opening.
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Not people, Ultra Nazi's.
 
I would've liked a scene where Ultron locates and decimates Hawkeye's safehouse, killing one member or all of his family, adding a pure evil edge to Ultron.
 
krameriffic said:
Everything with Tony rang incredibly hollow to me in the entire movie. I feel like they've been almost constantly misstepping with the portrayal of his character ever since the first Iron Man. They end IM3 with him hanging up his suit, getting rid of the arc reactor in his chest, and essentially saying he's done. Then at the start of this movie he's an Avenger again with absolutely no explanation of why. Then they end the movie with him leaving the Avengers again for absolutely no reason.

He fixed his errors and was on good terms with the entire team at that point. Why is he leaving? And do they expect anyone to buy it after they pulled the same stunt with the end of IM3? Plus everyone knows that Civil War is going to prominently feature Captain America vs. Iron Man on some level, so why even bother with this stupid bullshit? If they had set up Cap and IM being pissed at each other still at the end of the movie like they were in the middle, then it would have made some sense. But it just didn't.
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He didn't "quit" being Iron Man at the end of IM3. That's not what the ending was about.

Also, a huge portion of the movie spelled out his will to have an autonomous defense force. He succeeded - by creating Vision. And since War Machine proved his mettle as well who basically has the same kind of suit as Iron Man, I don't think Tony would have reservations about leaving the world in the hands of those who are better suited for battle. I think those War Machine jokes and having just War Machine instead of Falcon showing up to team up with Avengers, particularly tag teaming it with Tony, was setting up for this fact. Hell, the reason Cap even stays is because he realizes that this was all that he had to offer in the world. His greatest fear was living in a world where he wasn't needed, or to put it in a slightly darker way - a world without conflict. As he put it, the man who would have accepted Agent Carter's dance died 70 years ago. Same didn't go for anyone else who left, who either had lives beyond avenging or were a liability. The new team consist of people who are regularly known for engaging in combat and are less likely to have any real friction; less a time bomb and more a team.

On the other hand, if someone or something is forcing Tony's hand by the time Civil War rolls around, I could see that being an excuse for them to roll with. He's not going to go into Civil War being an Avenger. Tony quitting the Avengers business is relatively absolute the way I see it, until he's inevitably dragged into Infinity War (which, well, everyone will have to play a part), but beyond that I'm starting to think its a slow burn towards the actor retirements.

I think in general, the whole MCU concept is starting to be a cause for a lot of people to overthink into a few occam's razors. We saw this shit all the time when the solo movies popped back up after the first Avengers and its coming back into full force now. For the most of the part these movies have to still maintain a level of independency, or at least containment within their own series. Even The Winter Soldier, which shaked the MCU up the most, works fine as just a sequel to Cap 1. Same goes for Avengers 2 I believe because the new team is inevitably going to be the basis for Avengers 3, while everything else is mostly nods. Civil War will invariably follow up on The Winter Soldier by simultaneous proxy because he has Falcon with him and they have their "task force" now in the New Avengers.
 
Alienous said:
So I'm assuming that Black Panther had the post-credits scene and it was brutally cut out because of a reduced role in Civil War (if any).

That must be it, right?



Not people, Ultra Nazi's.
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I thought it was lame that IronMan used rubber bullets.
 
I saw it yesterday and I really liked it but it has some flaws which hurt the movie.

I'll start with the negatives on the Movie:

The major problem in this movie is the fast pacing and overbloated subplots which could haven been done well, if some of the action scenes would have been cut or reduced because there tons of it with barely any time to breath.
Thus some characters like Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch or the relationship between Black Widow and Banner hadn't got any development, it was just thrown in the movie. The creation of Ultron was tbh disappointing, I mean Stark and Banner are working on this project for 3 days or so, which failed every time but after they leave, it automatically succeeded and Ultron turned or rather born evil.
The fast pacing is also due to the quick editing, especially in the fights scenes which also made it worse in 3D, so you couldn't really what was going on in some scenes.
Quicksilvers death was... I dunno hasty, he shouldn't have died. I know that the movies lack the sense of danger where a character can die, but letting a character die in just one movie where he got his debut? That's a bit quick for my taste. Some of the action scenes (flying, jumping) and CGI were bad though (like in the trailer where they are all on the screen jumping), but not all of it though.
Last but not least, of course the villain was weak like in every MCU movie, he didn't really got to fight much but the mindless robots did.


The Positives:
Well there is not much to say, the chemistry between the actors/characters were great and they did feel like a team, unlike in Avengers 1 where they (all) just teamed up towards the end of the movie. The new characters Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Ultron and Vision were great and interesting, but they could have been much better with more Screen time and development (Vision was great). The Actions scenes are much better than in the previous movies, but not good as CA2: Winter Solider, it was a bit over the top. My favorite part was the Reveal of Vision and all of his scenes, it felt like "Now this is feeling much more like the comics" because he is an android (sort of ? in the movie ) and differentiate from the other characters.

If I'd give the movie a score it would be 8.2 due to the fast pacing and overbloated subplots, which didn't have any development.

My Scoring for the other MCU movies.

Cap2 - Winter Soldier: 9.3
GotG: 9.1
Avengers 1: 8.7
Avengers 2: 8.2
Cap 1: 8.0
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ok - good.

I hope AoU get's a directors cut with additional scenes, it really needs it. I'll definitely have to see the movie again on Blu Ray.
 
Killing QS makes some kind of sense. A lot of his character intrigue comes from being Magneto's son (which I they can't do.)

Was there really any other way they could have used him story-wise?
 
This may have been mentioned before, but in Thor 1, isn't the Infinity Gauntlet in the Asgardian vault? Yet in the mid-credits sequence, we have Thanos in possession of it?

Do you think it will be explained? O do you think that the gauntlet in Thor 1 was prior to the full MCU/Thanos plot line being developed?
 
Cronen said:
This may have been mentioned before, but in Thor 1, isn't the Infinity Gauntlet in the Asgardian vault? Yet in the mid-credits sequence, we have Thanos in possession of it?

Do you think it will be explained? O do you think that the gauntlet in Thor 1 was prior to the full MCU/Thanos plot line being developed?
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The Gauntlet in Thor 1 had all the gems too.

It'll probably be explained away as a replica.
 
Just watched it. Was blown away with the pace and humour. Natasha's flashbacks make me want a Black widow movie even more.
Quicksilver death got me, they made it so obvious it was going to be barton, I fell hook, line and sinker.

Also did anyone notice the credits statue was made out of marble

RiggyRob said:
Not in our showing - after the marble statues of the characters, Thanos said "Fine, I'll do it myself", credits rolled, "The Avengers will return" came up and then the lights came on.

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That's what I was expecting, I was totally sure that we'd see Klaw getting his claw, but it never happened.
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same here
 
MasterBalls said:
To think that animation was originally done for Carol Danvers!

And once again, wow.
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I'm glad they didn't do Carol Danvers, would have felt so out of place. Plus Olsen is beautiful.

Lifejumper said:
The non stop quips almost ruined the movie for me. Russo brothers save us.
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The more I think about it, the more I agree. I enjoyed some of them, but they were constant throughout the movie. When Ultron started being funny, it kinda killed the threat for me. Though I did laugh every time someone mentioned Cap after there was a swear word.

Hawkeye easily had the best dialogue, quips and not-quips.
 
ryan299 said:
The whole structure of the movie was kinda bad. It felt like a bunch of crap sowed together for a frankenstein type movie. I compare this to Iron man 2, as it was too much of a set up for the next phase of movies.
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Thinking about it more, I think you make a valid point here and agree with you. With the first Avengers movie, even though each character had their solo movie with an independent plot, it all culminated beautifully and came together in The Avengers. I didn't get that same feeling with Age Of Ultron, there was no culmination of plotlines or any coming together of the team. We're just plonked straight into the action with not a lot of context and just lots of setup for subsequent movies.

The thing that sticks out to me the most is The Avengers are a team, and I'm paraphrasing a quote by Nick Fury in the first movie, that are a unique group of heroes brought together to take on a foe that they can only defeat together. It may have retread some similar ground from the first movie, but I think perhaps cutting some superfluous plotlines like the Hulk/Widow romance and the Hawkeye family stuff (even though it was good), and focus a bit more on flesh out the main storyline, having the team come together and giving it more room to breathe would have done the movie a world of good.

There's some subtle stuff to set up the next movies, but it started getting in the way too much and then it's all forgotten by the end mostly. I still think it's a great movie but I think it doesn't capture that team feeling like the first one did.
 
GDJustin said:
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- Thor's Hammer is able to bring Vision to life because... reasons. And Vision's powers are... what, exactly? I know comic book readers know, but movie watchers have 0 clue why he can float through the air, why he can reach inside robot bodies, etc. He's a very cool character and I love his design, but his origin and limits are very poorly explained.
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The Hammer brought Vision to life because they were close to bringing him to life but the electricity was cut off. I agree with the phasing stuff, they showed it like one time only with Visions hands going through a drone? I totally expected them to show him phasing through that window when he was introduced.


I absolutely agree with Ultron. He was cool and all but a bit too much on the spoiled brat side. I expected way more sinister from him and less "I'm angry cause I don't want to be compared to Stark and I want to be beautiful... please? I'm lonely, help".
Felt like he had a bipolar disorder with making jokes and then throwing a tantrum in the next scene.

Oh well, it was still a good movie IMO. Felt rushed but atleast it wasn't the snorefest that is Avengers 1 (I can't watch that movie without being bored).

I'm fine with them having a new team at the end of the movie. Wanda and Vision will surely rock it (we also know that the team will be expanded via Spider-Man and possibly Black Panther by Avengers 3 Part 1).
Movie instantly dropped a score for me when they cut to black just before Cap was about to finish the Avengers Assemble shoutout. Damn Whedon, I totally saw that coming when I heard him go for it.

No Ultron we would have words with thee is sad too.
 
I'm wondering if Whedon just works better by collaborating with other writers, or if I'm just misremembering Buffy, Angel and Firefly as being better written than his Avengers movies. When I was listening to Buffy audio commentaries back in the day you'd always hear the other writers talking about how Whedon would come in and massage their scripts, making the jokes cleaner and simpler and cleverer, but, particularly in Avengers 1, it seems like he just throws jokes in at every possible opportunity, no matter how hammy or network-sitcom-y. Nat's "I don't see how that's a party" is the worst moment in the whole MCU.

I thought Avengers 2 was much better written overall, but it's not without its fair share of crap, particularly from Ultron, who barely lasts an entire scene without herpa-derp-ing some bullshit that totally undermines the whole persona they're going for with him. I wonder if Whedon just doesn't have anyone around to tell him to dial it back. It's pretty much the same thing he did with Loki in the first one; you can't have a cool, intimidating villain and also undermine him with cheeseball dialogue at every opportunity.
 
Not a great fan of marvel outside of watching the movies.

This was.....not a very good movie. There was a part with Thor jumping in the air doing a round house kick that reminded me of the Matrix fight scene(in a bad way). Same with Captain America throwing the motorbike at the car in the first scene.

I genuinely think the first movie was a lot better, Days of Future past and Winter Soldier were much better movies.


It was kind of a nothing movie, the action scenes were ok, the plot not so much.

Wouldnt pay to see it again
 
Guys, they're not mindless robots. They're extensions of Ultron that he's directly controlling... plotted and framed in such a way they're indistinguishable from mindless robots. It's a wasted opportunity, the final fight would probably come off a lot better if you could convey it as Ultron-the-many-armed-beast trying to grab the button. It might even have been a mistake to give him a main body at all.
 
That whole part where Black Widow is captured and Vision is created felt very rushed. I would have liked a Vision movie. I'll take that over Ant Man.
 
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