Dark Knight Rises v Man of Steel (Which one sucked more?)

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I'd say they are both flawed movies but Man of Steel is far worse.

There is almost no character development at all in the entire movie. I don't care for the characters at all. Action was good but it lacked impact as I didn't care for the people fighting.

TDKR is a movie I really enjoyed. The flaws have become more obvious with repeated viewings but at least there is character development throughout. At least I was able to watch the internal struggle within Bruce and how he overcame it in Lazarus's pit. Bane was also a far better villain than Zod.
 
Man of steel has a 56% on RT
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Both are decent movies. The Dark Knight Rises is just a meh mcguffin to the end of Christian Bale's trilogy while Man of Steel had redeeming action.
 
Say what you want, TDKR was a Batman ass Batman movie. Man of Steel wasn't a great Superman movie.

TDKR is fun to re watch too, flaws aside.
 
I really liked Man of Steel. Other than Pa Kent. Superman has things to learn about the consequences of being a superhero going forward and I think that makes things actually interesting.

Dark Knight Rises. Got dang. It failed to follow up on the themes built up in the first two movies, re-treaded old ideas when it brought back the league of shadows, and wasted the ending of the Dark Knight by having Bruce retire for eight years or whatever instead of becoming an outlaw vigilante who would have to work with Gordon only in secret. Batman had cleared out the old criminal order of the mob, two-face cleared out some of the corrupt police force, and a huge void was sitting there waiting to be explored and see how Gotham evolved for better and worse. A huge premise, wasted.
 
TDKR is a flawed film, and a disappointing finish to the Nolan trilogy.

Man of Steel is a terrible film, built by committee, with no redeeming aspects outside of the effects.

Even if TDKR is a step down from TDK, at least it fails on its own terms and under the vision of the director. TDKR is a creative work. Man of Steel is a packaged product.
 
I like them both but I thought Man of Steel was better. I like a lot about Rises but more things about Steel work better for me. I know both of them get a lot of criticism but I think they're solid flicks.
 
MattKeil said:
TDKR is a flawed film, and a disappointing finish to the Nolan trilogy.

Man of Steel is a terrible film, built by committee, with no redeeming aspects outside of the effects.

Even if TDKR is a step down from TDK, at least it fails on its own terms and under the vision of the director. TDKR is a creatively bankrupt work. Man of Steel is a packaged product.
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Rises is a fun movie as a huge batman fan but MoS suck slightly less, MoS proved in the hands of a good director and a budget Dragon Ball Z can come to life..
 
I thoroughly enjoyed both of them. Not a comic book fan in any way but I found them to be enjoyable action movies. I'd say MoS gets an edge for me because of the satisfying action scenes with eye candy galore, and a strong villain whose motives made more sense than I usually see in superhero flicks. But most of all I liked the sci fi theme it had.

Opening airplane scene in DKR in IMAX is in my personal top 10 scenes in a movie. That one took my breath away.
 
Hehe, just remembered my favourite bit about TDKR.

Talia does this all for revenge, but when she has essentially already won with Bruce broke. She goes to his mansion and sleeps with him, then plans to blow herself up with him watching. Take that Bruce Wayne! That showed him.




Also, doesn't reveal herself to Bruce when in her own mind she thinks he will die in prison and she will die from a nuke. So your most hated enemy, enough to kill yourself over to watch everything he loves destroyed... doesn't even know it.

Also the whole only person to escape being Talia as a little girl and the key bit being able to jump across to a ledge. Like a full grown man can't outjump a little girl.

Also... actually lets stop beating that horse.
 
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He's the exact opposite of batman though. Ras protege vs talia protege.
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But Bruce still became his own man with his own principals and motivation. Bane was just revealed to be Italia's top henchmen after the whole movie making you think he was both the brains and muscle behind it all. They hyped him through the whole movie as if he was Bruce's equal in smarts and surpassed him physically when only one of those were true.

It was a big letdown for everything that came before that reveal.
 
TDKR isn't a Batman film, it's a Bruce Wayne film. And it's decent if you approach it that way. The action is small and inconsequential, and the villains feel that way too. This movie is mostly about Bruce making peace with himself. Which is fine, since it's the last in the trilogy. I feel like The Dark Knight was the only true Batman film Nolan made. The other two focused a little more on Bruce, either discovering or ending his Batman persona.

Man of Steel is a Superman film, but they somehow fucked up the core character. Man of Steel is like the complete opposite of TDKR. There's no Clark Kent in the film, at least not by Henry Cavil. And the action is gratuitously cataclysmic to the point where it overwhelms Superman himself, and it seems as though he's unable to save anything. And Henry Cavill to be frank, with so little dialog and acting in the film, hasn't earned the cape yet.


My verdict.. TDKR > MOS.
 
DKR at least had that loud ass soundtrack that made you think epic shit was going on and Bane shorta carried the movie until the last third.

Superman had nothing Like that Going on.
 
theWB27 said:
But Bruce still became his own man with his own principals and motivation. Bane was just revealed to be Italia's top henchmen after the whole movie making you think he was both the brains and muscle behind it all. They hyped him through the whole movie as if he was Bruce's equal in smarts and surpassed him physically when only one of those were true.

It was a big letdown for everything that came before that reveal.
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Principles including "ah fuck it I give up" and stops being Batman for seven years.

Of all the dumb shit Nolan has written, and there is a lot, that takes the cake.
 
As someone who doesn't care about comics, I thought DKR sucked wayyyy more than Man of Steel. I didn't like Dark Knight much either, but I thought Begins was incredible.

I've seen Man of Steel three times now because I enjoyed watching it so much. I hope he punches more stuff really hard in the next film.
 
Dark knight rises was just bafflingly bad compared to the other two batman films. then I saw interstellar and am now beginning to question Nolan's credentials.
 
King Gilga said:
Man of Steel is fun, cool and dumb.

TDKR was just super dumb.

And I really really don't like superman.
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This is me, I couldn't even finish TDKR it was so bad. Man of Steel at least had amazing visuals and audio.

TDKR was off on so many levels..it put a stain on the entire trilogy.
 
Dead said:
Principles including "ah fuck it I give up" and stops being Batman for seven years.

Of all the dumb shit Nolan has written, and there is a lot, that takes the cake.
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You mean after he lost the love of his life going up against his #1 foe...yeah I guess if you try and eliminate that element giving up being Batman does seem stupid.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
GAFs hyperbole/obsession when it comes to Man of Steel will never cease to amaze me
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Same. Everyone I know that's seen it love it, or at least didn't hate it. Come to GAF and you'd believe it's the worst movie ever that for some reason the forum just can't stop talking about.

Boring. No redeeming qualities. Superman out of character (cue tons of complains about collateral damage), poor story, etc etc. And yet it remains, for me, one of the best comic book films we've gotten in the last decade. I've given up trying to understand the hate MoS gets.
 
I liked both, and consider them above average comic book movies. I think Man of Steel had bigger faults though

The hate they get compared to TASM 2/Iron Man 2+3/Thor 2 is pretty interesting, much more vitriol about it
 
I'm not even a huge fan of BB/TDK and I still thought TDKR was shit. Not just 'not as good as the previous films' - but genuinely shit.

Man of Steel isn't great either, but it's a spectacle and the action is pretty cool.
 
No comparison. TDKR is a Bruce Wayne movie with a different take on the character, plus Bane is nicely done for the most part. It's not good, but rated against other superhero movies it's not bad at all, probably top 20 or 30.

Man of Steel, I just want my 143 minutes back. That's how little I liked it; I would gladly trade away my ability to call it awful (usually the silver lining to seeing a terrible movie) to get the time back that I wasted on it.
 
I've only seen both once, and I'd much rather rewatch Man of Steel at this point, if only because the action was fun. DKR was a mess, with very little to redeem it.
 
Tawney Bomb said:
Say what you want, TDKR was a Batman ass Batman movie. Man of Steel wasn't a great Superman movie.

TDKR is fun to re watch too, flaws aside.
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Bruce has quit being Batman at the beginning and at the end and isn't even around for practically the entire 2nd act.

This was the least Batman ass Batman movie I've ever seen.
 
theWB27 said:
You mean after he lost the love of his life going up against his #1 foe...yeah I guess if you try and eliminate that element giving up being Batman does seem stupid.
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Robin being killed by the Joker didn't make Batman stop being Batman for 7 years.

It's a shit story, and it's the most un-Batman thing in that aboriton of a movie
 
Doosi said:
Dark Knight Rises was awful.
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It really was. My cousin and I rented it and were both asleep after 30 minutes. He politely asked me to not invite him over for anymore Nolan flicks.

Man Of Steel was pretty fun. It certainly had it's share of flaws, but the story had a much quicker pace and the action was exciting.
 
not psycho said:
No comparison. TDKR is a Bruce Wayne movie with a different take on the character, plus Bane is nicely done for the most part. It's not good, but rated against other superhero movies it's not bad at all, probably top 20 or 30.

Man of Steel, I just want my 143 minutes back. That's how little I liked it; I would gladly trade away my ability to call it awful (usually the silver lining to seeing a terrible movie) to get the time back that I wasted on it.
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lol
 
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