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is Baron Zemo another nazi genius scientist like Strucker and Zola..sounds kind of boring again?

is Zemo more than that? is he smarter then Strucker..

i dont know alot about him
 
RadioHammer500 said:
is Baron Zemo another nazi genius scientist like Strucker and Zola..sounds kind of boring again?

is Zemo more than that? is he smarter then Strucker..

i dont know alot about him
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Zemo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbones_(comics)

We're not sure what's going on yet really. We know there is going to be the part of registering super humans, stuff with Wakanda possibly and also the 2 mentioned above. It's hard to tell at this point.
 
I've got my tickets reserved for tomorrow night, so excited to see this!

I'm sure this has been answered numerous times, but I don't want to look through the thread in fear of spoilers:

is there TRULY no post-credits clip?
 
Saw it, really great movie but I don't think it's as good as the first or the two marvel movies from last year. To me the first avengers was a dream come true, a comic brought to life, I left that theater so blown away. I left this theater satisfied but not really wowed. This movie does try to do the dark middle part of a trilogy thing and I don't think these charcters lead themselves that well to that than say the xmen who are far more interesting charcters to me. The action is still top notch.
 
Almost let some of the negative reviews and talk here stop me and would of kicked myself for doing so. Enjoyed it very much and it ties for 3rd place with The Avengers being first and Winter Soldier being second. The wait for Infinity War is gonna hurt :(
 
Just got out. Loved it. Its a phenomenally enjoyable film. Each character had moments to shine. Gonna watch it again very soon
 
I feel like this movie is better than the first on a technical level, like in terms of cinematography, action, and effects.. but at the same time worse on a storytelling level. There were some pretty goofy / dumb plot points in there.

Pretty fun overall though.
 
I think the 3 hours+ bluray version should probably provide many answers to the questions for this movie.
 
That was fucking awesome. More uneven but the highs are way higher. Ultron was good but he could have been great.
The more I think about it, the more I think the weak first act is what holds the movie back the most. That's where the editing is most choppy and important scenes are clearly missing.
The action in the movie is fucking top notch. Everyone had me bracing for terrible quips but I thought it was much more reserved with better dialogue compared to the first.

I rate it 8/10, would be higher if
that first act was cleaned up.

And this movie did city destruction a million times better than MoS. It felt like a fucking AVENGERS movie, like the first one but taken up several notches.


Now time to go see it again :-)
 
You know, I thought the novelty of seeing all these characters interact was going to wear off after the first movie, but it totally didn't. Had a grin on my face almost the whole time
 
That.......was baller as hell. literally everything i wanted and hoped for and more. Way better than the first. Good stuff. Ultron was charming as hell and i was fascinated anytime he was on screen. My main man Clint getting more attention was perfect. The Twins kicked ass too, Wanda especially, Liz Olsen is such a bae <3 Vision was awesome too. Just overall loved the character-based stuff in general, amazing that it's not much longer than the first but with more characters and plot points yet i felt no one overshadowed the other and everyone got something to do. Everyone gets a great line, a badass action moment, etc. Whedon went out with a bang. Can not wait for Civil War and Infinity War and god knows what else is next.
 
Saw the double-feature tonight. The second one is nowhere near as good as the first one, but still fun. Main weaknesses are the villain is annoying rather than interesting (though I have been spoiled lately on robot characters because I just saw Ex Machina last weekend), and some of the banter is forced. The transition between action and "talkie" scenes is much rougher than in the first movie imo.

e: Background - I have never read any of the comics but I have watched all the movies.
The new characters were underwhelming, particularly since there are very similar characters in X-Men and the fast guy in X-Men even has silver hair too. X-Men also has the best fast guy scene ever made (in the kitchen).

That purple guy (the spoiler thread title reminds me his name is Thanos) is never going to succeed at anything is he? They're just going to keep making movies of him goofing around.
 
What the hell?

I could maybe see people being disappointed with parts of the movie but the heavily negative reviews from last week feels so off base from the movie I just saw.

The story wasn't too confusing. There didn't feel like too much going on. The pacing was still good (and having just seen a double feature of both movies felt like an improvement over A1). Ultron may not have been the menace the trailer painted him as but I think he's better for it. Most unique super villain in a long time.

Granted, there are a few threads that obviously are there to seed future movies but it often tied back into the film in some way and didn't feel completely out of place

There are a lot of subtle nods and lines that I think people might not really digest the first time and it might take until future movies to really get it, just like the first Avengers.

Great movie. Better than the first and My first impression is that it's the best movie yet.

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I really liked Ultron's big plan. It felt goofy Silver Agey yet felt like significant stakes since not only are all lives on Earth at stake but you actually see all the lives at stake on the island. It was really well done especially since they had to make a tough choice and went with save everyone even if it meant they might not succeed and they die with everyone. Ultron also positing about the elegance of a meteor was great and then he actually tries to create one.

So cool. So much fun.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Saw it, really great movie but I don't think it's as good as the first or the two marvel movies from last year. To me the first avengers was a dream come true, a comic brought to life, I left that theater so blown away. I left this theater satisfied but not really wowed. This movie does try to do the dark middle part of a trilogy thing and I don't think these charcters lead themselves that well to that than say the xmen who are far more interesting charcters to me. The action is still top notch.
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This is exactly how I feel except for the xmen being more interesting. I expected this to be an empire strikes back situation so I knew to keep expectations in check.
 
Just saw it, thought it was great. I really enjoyed Ultron. He was a dude through and through. Awesome action sequences, it was superhero action at its finest. Also it felt like everyone got their time in the spotlight. One minor touch I liked was
at the very end they had the same dude from The Winter Soldier that was at the computer.
 
Raguel said:
Oh yeah. This quicksilver shits all over the quicksilver in xmen dofp.
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He's an actual character in AoU.



guek said:
That was fucking awesome. More uneven but the highs are way higher. Ultron was good but he could have been great.
The more I think about it, the more I think the weak first act is what holds the movie back the most. That's where the editing is most choppy and important scenes are clearly missing.
The action in the movie is fucking top notch. Everyone had me bracing for terrible quips but I thought it was much more reserved with better dialogue compared to the first.

I rate it 8/10, would be higher if
that first act was cleaned up.

And this movie did city destruction a million times better than MoS. It felt like a fucking AVENGERS movie, like the first one but taken up several notches.


Now time to go see it again :-)
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There was a definite team vibe throughout this movie.
 
I never read the comics, that said, why are the filmmakers using quicksilver so much? I didn't really like him in either movie. The prison break in xmen was cool but otherwise I'm not a fan.
 
Jtrizzy said:
I never read the comics, that said, why are the filmmakers using quicksilver so much? I didn't really like him in either movie. The prison break in xmen was cool but otherwise I'm not a fan.
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In DOFP, he was there because super speed made for a cool action scene

In the comics, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were both enemies and members of the Avengers.
 
Just came back from it. Man... it was decent I suppose. Best to leave your assumptions at the door like:

(Heavy Spoilers)
That Spider-Man reveal, Black Panther or Coulson/Agents of Shield cameo, Hulk going to space, Loki and an extended slow-mo Quicksilver scenes like DOFP had.

Felt like something was missing from this, but it wasn't bad. Loved Ultron's dialogue and seeing The Force Awakens trailer in 3D!
 
Jtrizzy said:
I never read the comics, that said, why are the filmmakers using quicksilver so much? I didn't really like him in either movie. The prison break in xmen was cool but otherwise I'm not a fan.
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Because they can really. Him and Wanda are both mutants and Avengers so they could be used in Fox and Marvel films. Wanda's more affiliated with the Avengers (Vision and Wonder Man) though so that's probably why you won't see her in an X-Men film.
 
Epcott said:
Just came back from it. Man... it was decent I suppose. Best to leave your assumptions at the door like:

(Heavy Spoilers)
That Spider-Man reveal, Black Panther or Coulson/Agents of Shield cameo, Hulk going to space, Loki and an extended slow-mo Quicksilver scenes like DOFP had.

Felt like something was missing from this, but it wasn't bad. Loved Ultron's dialogue and seeing The Force Awakens trailer in 3D!
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Spider-Man was never going to happen in this movie

Black Panther was announced to first appear in Civil War

Joss is pretending Coulson is still dead. I'm serious.

Hulk isn't getting a solo movie like Planet Hulk because Universal still owns distribution rights on any solo hulk films

Everyone thinks Loki is dead right now, but he's really impersonating Odin in Asgard. He can't blow that kind of cover

They were very clearly trying to avoid comparisons with DOFP
 
Movie was very average.

Every serious moment ended in a joke.
All Avengers were comedians in their specific way.
Ultron didn't even feel like he was in this movie. He was in the movie but he's just so not interesting that it's hard to remember he's in the movie. I was more so waiting for the next witty remark that I forgot about much of the plot.
Pietro dies? Finally get some actual young blood in the movies and they kill him. He was much cooler than Wanda. At least Pietro did things.
Vision was the only cool part (aesthetically, every thing else about him was just lol)
Ultron was going to wipe out the planet with a town like meteor. That was his plan? Ugh..
I have zero hope with the MCU going forward. That was literally worse than Thor 2: The Dark World
 
Subpar Spatula said:
Movie was very average.

Every serious moment ended in a joke.
All Avengers were comedians in their specific way.
Ultron didn't even feel like he was in this movie. He was in the movie but he's just so not interesting that it's hard to remember he's in the movie. I was more so waiting for the next witty remark that I forgot about much of the plot.
Pietro dies? Finally get some actual young blood in the movies and they kill him. He was much cooler than Wanda. At least Pietro did things.
Vision was the only cool part (aesthetically, every thing else about him was just lol)
Ultron was going to wipe out the planet with a town like meteor. That was his plan? Ugh..
I have zero hope with the MCU going forward. That was literally worse than Thor 2: The Dark World
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worse than thor 2? LMAO are you serious
 
koshunter said:
I'm in the camp of Spader was fantastic but a poor villain. I actually liked his screen-time more then any other character in the movie but ultimately, I felt his most threatening moment was his introduction, which is pretty telling.
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i was actually rooting for him to
finish uploading himself into vision
just so he could have something to do other than make quips. I thought they did a decent job with him up until
everyone stops at Hawkeye's house
, and from that point on Ultron himself feels kind of backburner until the climax (which was a bummer because I enjoyed him the most). Actually I feel like thats the point where the film on the whole starts to get kind of sloppy and loses me a little.
 
I'll have to see this movie again, but my first impression is that I didn't enjoy it as much as the first. This one just didn't have the same impact as the first one for me. A lot of the jokes fell flat or got chuckles at most, and none of the action scenes made me want to stand up and cheer like in Avengers 1. In a lot of ways, it just felt like a stopgap between Avengers 1 and Infinity War.

It also didn't help that the audience in my theater was kinda small because I went to a 3D showing, and the few people who were in there didn't really seem into it. I think there were like two jokes that made the whole theater laugh. This was pretty disappointing to me, because the audience reaction was one of my favorite things about the first movie.

Definitely wasn't a bad movie, though.
 
Was great!
A little disappointed that getting rid of Ultron wasn't really any more involved than "punch all the robots until there are none left" and though already stuffed full, I could've done with a scene or two showing more of Ultron getting his whole shtick together, and how Iron Man handles getting his suits/systems up and running without Jarvis but pre-Friday. A handful of deleted scenes would be glorious. But on the bright side, I totally misjudged what Vision's role and appearance in the movie would be like and really can't be happier with how all that worked out. Just a really solid interpretation of the character and a hair's breadth from a starring role by the time all was said and done.

ILM really has no limitations anymore it seems, they just fully realize whatever they want to in convincing detail. James Spader completely owns a role that could have easily been a laugh riot in the wrong hands, creates basically the first actually-good-actual-supervillain for the Avengers to contend with, and has real fun with it. Whedon's direction is deft, and resists many temptations to make anyone (Iron Man, Cap, or even Hulk honestly) the "main character" despite a massive, unwieldy cast. Elizabeth Olsen won me over.

I liked the references to
the fact that the Avengers roster isn't the most stable thing in the world, the deep and unique neuroses each character still suffers in the end, and the love letter's worth of tongue-and-cheek "I know we screwed you in Avengers 1" moments the script gives to Hawkeye.

It's not a masterpiece, and settles on several occasions for "merely very good." But the real credit the movie deserves is that... it's just... it's an Avengers movie. These characters all exist in the same universe, they go out and they do Avengery things, and it just works. They hang out, figure stuff out about their powers,
compare stories of badassery and romantic interests
. Supporting roles that pop up here feel real, like
War Machine exists elsewhere doing his thing for the U.S. Military while the Avengers are out and about, the Falcon is on deck, Selvig (against all reason) is dying for a piece of the action he got in New York, Maria Hill is ever the Shield loyal. Even fucking Idris Elba manages an affecting 20-second appearance as Heimdall.
They clash with villains and each other; meanwhile Daredevil is minding the streets of Hell's Kitchen and somewhere out there, Hank Pym's been doing some Science™ and Steven Strange tending to the occult. It's the realization of the impossibly cohesive universe I dared myself to buy into when I first saw Samuel L. Fury on Iron Man's couch 7 goddamn years ago. When all is said and done, I'm just so glad all these properties were so successful and will be around to watch for years and years to come.

No post-credits scene is a real punch in the crotch, is this literally the first one so far not to have one...?
Other than that and my nitpicking, loved it.
 
Hawkian said:
ILM really has no limitations anymore it seems, they just fully realize whatever they want to in convincing detail.
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I have no idea what people were talking about with the bad CGI. Literally no clue

Hawkian said:
It's the realization of the impossibly cohesive universe I dared myself to buy into when I first saw Samuel L. Fury on Iron Man's couch 7 goddamn years ago. When all is said and done, I'm just so glad all these properties were so successful and will be around to watch for years and years to come.
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Amen brother
 
Just left, I had fun with this movie but I liked the first one more. Someone told me that it felt fillery to them and I have to agree though this was some FUN filler.
 
Epcott said:
Just came back from it. Man... it was decent I suppose. Best to leave your assumptions at the door like:

(Heavy Spoilers)
That Spider-Man reveal, Black Panther or Coulson/Agents of Shield cameo, Hulk going to space, Loki and an extended slow-mo Quicksilver scenes like DOFP had.

Felt like something was missing from this, but it wasn't bad. Loved Ultron's dialogue and seeing The Force Awakens trailer in 3D!
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erm we already cleared these doubts since a week ago :P
 
Subpar Spatula said:
Movie was very average.

Every serious moment ended in a joke.
All Avengers were comedians in their specific way.
Ultron didn't even feel like he was in this movie. He was in the movie but he's just so not interesting that it's hard to remember he's in the movie. I was more so waiting for the next witty remark that I forgot about much of the plot.
Pietro dies? Finally get some actual young blood in the movies and they kill him. He was much cooler than Wanda. At least Pietro did things.
Vision was the only cool part (aesthetically, every thing else about him was just lol)
Ultron was going to wipe out the planet with a town like meteor. That was his plan? Ugh..
I have zero hope with the MCU going forward. That was literally worse than Thor 2: The Dark World
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Yeah, this bothered the hell out of me. Like... it was pretty dumb for an AI being.



Zeyphersan said:
Spider-Man was never going to happen in this movie

Black Panther was announced to first appear in Civil War

Joss is pretending Coulson is still dead. I'm serious.

Hulk isn't getting a solo movie like Planet Hulk because Universal still owns distribution rights on any solo hulk films

Everyone thinks Loki is dead right now, but he's really impersonating Odin in Asgard. He can't blow that kind of cover

They were very clearly trying to avoid comparisons with DOFP
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I figured as much, but many sites believed
He would go to space and maybe cameo in GOTG 2 (even though Gunn said he wouldn't)

All in all, I wasn't very hyped for the movie until the release drew closer. Ultron always felt like a filler villain to me, though I know he's a big player in the comics. He always felt like a "Lets fill in the blank until the inevitable Infinity films, IMO. I really enjoyed it though, but I wanted more of a threat instead of a
falling city extinction level event.
 
Vision was perfect. All credit to the costume design and CGI on his character. He had some snappy lines, too.

The rest of the film was just okay.
 
Movie was dynamite in the IMAX experience. Loved most of it, some parts I could have done without, but overall very impressed. I'd say this is leagues better than the first.
 
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