MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

Who will win?


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I'm placing my odds at 3:1 for a Mayweather unanimous decision.

Thought Floyd was better five years ago, that gap has widened in my view the last few years.

I'll be happy if I'm wrong, though.
 
What? Khan looks more focused than ever and keith is not ready by far. Keith is just a power puncher and needs to flesh out his boxing skills and defense.

He looked sharp against Alexander but that doesn't convince me that he's focused. We'll see how he does against Algieri but honestly I feel like Khan is more likely to be intimidated by the idea of Mayweather and under perform than someone like Thurman. Thurman is under experienced, certainly, but I feel like he's got the right kind of confidence to perform well against Mayweather.

Think of the difference between Canelo and Maidana. On paper Canelo should've had the better performance but Mayweather got into his head. Whereas Maidana just went for it.
 
I love comments like this, it always spells out the folks who know very little about boxing.

You're right man, Mayweather's gonna win just cuz bro, I've never seen him lose so fuck it, he'll win tonight too. Just like every other fight, no analysis needed, styles don't matter. Team Money baby.

Exactly what is your boxing cred, because you're making some egregious assumptions about mine and anyone else that sides with Mayweather.

You've parroted "styles make fights" quite a bit but you don't appear to have a clue what it means because you are somehow convinced Pacquiao, who doesn't deal well with counter punchers and whose only advantage is being a southpaw, has the perfect style to beat Mayweather, who is the best counter puncher there is and has ridiculous reflexes.

Go ahead, gimme your analysis as to how and why Pacquiao will win.
 
No, robbed.

Calling a perfectly timed counterpunch "lucky" is really absurd, but I can see you're a Pactard so I'll keep it moving.

I'm not a "Pactard", considering I have picked against him before (Margarito and Cotto fight), and have never picked against Mayweather, but yeah, just keep it moving, Flomo.
 
No, robbed.

Calling a perfectly timed counterpunch "lucky" is really absurd, but I can see you're a Pactard so I'll keep it moving.

I kinda thought I'll hear the word Pactard in Pacquaio's website forum (pinoygreats.com)

Either way, let's keep the discussion clean, brothers and sisters. Both of them are legendary fighters and it's a treat for us tonight to watch this fight. Hehehe
 
I kinda thought I'll hear the word Pactard in Pacquaio's website forum (pinoygreats.com)

Either way, let's keep the discussion clean, brothers and sisters. Both of them are legendary fighters and it's a treat for us tonight to watch this fight. Hehehe

That hehehe killed it.
 
I haven't been this excited for a fight since Sweet Pea versus Chavez. Still remember that robbery even after all these years.
 
By saying that, you're proving my point.

No, you're actually proving mine.

The one person in this thread calling out all the casuals and telling everyone they don't know shit about boxing is, surprise, surprise, the one that actually doesn't know shit about boxing. Shocker. Well done.
 
lot of self-righteousness going on twitter..people saying that their not going to buy the fight, that we should boycott it because they don't support a woman beater etc.
 
lot of self-righteousness going on twitter..people saying that their not going to buy the fight, that we should boycott it because they don't support a woman beater etc.

lol

who gives a **** what he did outside of the ring. He's a prize fighter and we're going to watch a fistfight

should we not support MLK Jr day too because of MLK's personal actions?
 
lot of self-righteousness going on twitter..people saying that their not going to buy the fight, that we should boycott it because they don't support a woman beater etc.

The majority of those sanctimonious dickheads probably don't follow boxing anyway, so whatever, nothing of value has been lost.
 
No, you're actually proving mine.

The one person in this thread calling out all the casuals and telling everyone they don't know shit about boxing is, surprise, surprise, the one that actually doesn't know shit about boxing. Shocker. Well done.
MVP has acrually given in depth reasons why he thinks manny will win earlier in the thread, pre weighin. you should read them. He's gone all ham now but its not like that makes his previous posts just vanish.

edit: look i even found one for you because I'm bored

MVP said:
He will try to counter-punch all day, and that's why he'll lose the fight. He isn't some magic wizard that is going to just dodge every punch, if he tries to counter-punch all day, he will get hit, a lot. Maidana was able to hit him, Mosley, Judah, Castillo, etc. He's not impenetrable, he just eventually times and wears down his opponents until they end up slowing down. Pacquiao doesn't slow down.

He also has crazy trouble with fighters who use a lot of feints, it makes it harder to time them, and he almost got knocked out by Mosley because of it. Mosley was jerking around almost the whole time, but eventually Mayweather adjusted.

It'll be a damn good fight. Each fighter's weakness is the other one's strength. It's almost the perfect fight.
 
MVP, you really oughtta link your earlier analysis. I know you're going full ham for fun, but I'd hate to see you banned during the event.
 
Anyone not familiar with boxing that's tuning in tonight, there's going to be a champion on the undercard that only has 4 fights; Vasyl Lomachenko.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrmPdAVpR4

He was one of the best amateur boxers ever and turned pro later than most, got fast tracked to the title after losing his second pro fight to a veteran. Really good fighter and I think he could come away from tonight as one of the big winners on the undercard as far as making a name for himself (well, if he doesn't lose lol).
 
Sky's UK price is £20 (that's about 35USD). I remember paying that much for Tyson fights back in the day. I guess that's the sweetspot price for PPV over here.
 
Sky's UK price is £20 (that's about 35USD). I remember paying that much for Tyson fights back in the day. I guess that's the sweetspot price for PPV over here.

That makes sense, you guys have to stay up or wake up really early to catch Vegas fights.
 
Wow. It's like 90USD here.

What the fuck!? Is there only one way of watching it too? Sky have the TV rights here, and I suspect Radio 5 Sport will have commentary.

90 is fucking disgraceful! How much is a typical monthly subscription to cable/satellite in the US?

Edit: Ah yeah you need a Sky sub, which starts at either £20 per month or £30 (HD).
 
MVP has acrually given in depth reasons why he thinks manny will win earlier in the thread, pre weighin. you should read them. He's gone all ham now but its not like that makes his previous posts just vanish.

edit: look i even found one for you because I'm bored

But thats the point, why is he "gone all ham"? He seems to have a legitimate interest in boxing, why detract from one of the few times a decent number of people have more than a passing interest in it by putting on an act?

Remind us why the NBA thread keeps disappearing?
 
So how is boxing even scheduled?

I mean, everyone is about this fight, but is there a regular set of fights? I never understood how that worked with UFC and Boxing.

Also, as a newbie:

What are the "rules" and other technical boxing stuff I should know about to enhance my viewing experience?

This is their first fight and one is undefeated? I thought they had fought before
 
What the fuck!? Is there only one way of watching it too? Sky have the TV rights here, and I suspect Radio 5 Sport will have commentary.

90 is fucking disgraceful! How much is a typical monthly subscription to cable/satellite in the US?

Edit: Ah yeah you need a Sky sub, which starts at either £20 per month or £30 (HD).

Yeah. You need to be subscribed to a cable provider such as Time Warner, Verizon, etc.
From what I hear cable is pretty expensive, a minimum of 60USD per month. Don't quote me on that since I haven't had cable in forever.

Price is actually 90USD for SD and 100USD for HD
 
Just been reading, talktalk customers can get it for £15 and Sky's price goes to £25 after midnight.
No way I'll be compos mentis at 4 or 5 in the morning so I'll give it a miss.
 
Damn, it doesn't seem like any of the bars around me are showing the fight, and I don't know anyone who's hosting a gathering. I really don't want to spend $90 for this.
 
So how is boxing even scheduled?

I mean, everyone is about this fight, but is there a regular set of fights? I never understood how that worked with UFC and Boxing.

Also, as a newbie:

What are the "rules" and other technical boxing stuff I should know about to enhance my viewing experience?

This is their first fight and one is undefeated? I thought they had fought before

There are a number of "undercard" fights before the Main Event fight. Only two of those fights will be aired on tv though.

The rules that are most relevant will be shown on the screen right before the fight. There are more than just those but they're not really necessary for a viewer to have memorized. Like all sports, the Ref will enforce them should they need to be enforced and the announcers will discuss them if that happens.

This is indeed the first time these two fighters have faced one another.

Is 6PM PST the start of the event, with the undercard sand everything, or is that the when the title card is supposed to happen?

Start of the aired event, which includes two undercard fights.
 
But thats the point, why is he "gone all ham"? He seems to have a legitimate interest in boxing, why detract from one of the few times a decent number of people have more than a passing interest in it by putting on an act?

Remind us why the NBA thread keeps disappearing?

It's the same thing I do for any big event, leading up to it will be real talk, but once the excitement sets in, fanboy mode sets in. I was insufferable for the Heat-Spurs finals.

Plus, there's too much "well, I think X will win, but wouldn't be surprised if Y wins. My head says X, but my heart says Y. I'm picking heads but rooting for tails." Not enough real picks and predictions and standing by them, at least on the Pacquiao side.
 
So how is boxing even scheduled?

I mean, everyone is about this fight, but is there a regular set of fights? I never understood how that worked with UFC and Boxing.

Also, as a newbie:

What are the "rules" and other technical boxing stuff I should know about to enhance my viewing experience?

This is their first fight and one is undefeated? I thought they had fought before

Blows below the stated belt line are illegal
Intentional headbutts and elbows are illegal
Kidney shots are illegal (but almost never enforced)
Grappling is illegal (ref will break them up)

A round is scored by winner/loser. Winner of a round will always get 10 points, loser can get 9 or lower depending on if they were knocked down.

Example: close round, but Mayweather edges pacman out gets scored 10/9 for Floyd. If pacman is knocked down, its a 10/8 round for Floyd.

12 rounds total.

Judges score the fight on four categories: Agrresive effectiveness, defense, clean punching, ring generalship

Obviously if someone is knocked out and can't get back up before a ten count, or the ref determines they can't go on, or a corner's towel is thrown in, or someone isn't fighting back for an extended period of time, the fight ends.
 
It's the same thing I do for any big event, leading up to it will be real talk, but once the excitement sets in, fanboy mode sets in. I was insufferable for the Heat-Spurs finals.

Plus, there's too much "well, I think X will win, but wouldn't be surprised if Y wins. My head says X, but my heart says Y. I'm picking heads but rooting for tails." Not enough real picks and predictions and standing by them, at least on the Pacquiao side.

Let me remind you i had spurs over miami over in slaent vs you, you just don't know who i was over there
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So how is boxing even scheduled?

I mean, everyone is about this fight, but is there a regular set of fights? I never understood how that worked with UFC and Boxing.

Also, as a newbie:

What are the "rules" and other technical boxing stuff I should know about to enhance my viewing experience?

This is their first fight and one is undefeated? I thought they had fought before

There will be a two fight undercard before the main event.

No hitting below the belt, behind the head, no headbutting, no biting etc. A lot of times the ref can't see some stuff, like Floyd has a tendency to use his elbows when he pushes off, it's illegal but nobody really says anything.

Three ringside judges score bouts based on four factors:

Clean punching: “Clean” punches are punches that land on the face/side of the head and the front/side of the torso.
Effective aggressiveness: A boxer demonstrates this trait when he consistently and successfully moves forward in a controlled manner.
Ring generalship: The judges favor the fighter who controls the pace and style of the bout.
Defense: Boxers that skillfully incorporate defensive maneuvers receive credit in this area.

The rounds are scored on a 10 point must system, the winner of the round gets 10 pts, the loser gets 9, if there's a knockdown in a round that person gets 8 pts, two knockdowns and he gets 7. If you're hit and your glove touches the mat it's counted as a knockdown. Rounds can also be scored 10-10 if nobody won it.


This is their first fight and their styles are completely different, Floyd is a defensive fighter while Manny is an offensive fighter. Floyd prides himself on not getting hit and avoiding damage while Manny comes at you from angles with a lot of speed and will take punches to land his own. Also, Floyd is orthodox (right handed) and Manny is a southpaw (left handed) so if you hear the announcers mention those things you'll know what they are, typically a southpaw has the advantage in fights because they've fought more right handed fighters than vice versa. There's a lot of strategy and footwork that goes into fights when a right handed fighter fights a left handed fighter, the announcers will probably say something along the lines that Floyd or Manny need to establish their lead foot outside. Their stances mirror one another, so whoever can get their lead foot on the outside can throw crosses (straight punches with their strong hand) down the middle without having to worry about taking return fire.
 
Blows below the stated belt line are illegal
Intentional headbutts and elbows are illegal
Kidney shots are illegal (but almost never enforced)
Grappling is illegal (ref will break them up)

I think a more extensive explanation of the rules can be found here:
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing

Small note: Grappling, or rather clinching, is technically illegal, but in general accepted in professional boxing, unless done excessively. If you don't overdo it, see e.g. Klitschko as a negative example, no one really cares.
 
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