MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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abuC said:
There will be a two fight undercard before the main event.

No hitting below the belt, behind the head, no headbutting, no biting etc. A lot of times the ref can't see some stuff, like Floyd has a tendency to use his elbows when he pushes off, it's illegal but nobody really says anything.



The rounds are scored on a 10 point must system, the winner of the round gets 10 pts, the loser gets 9, if there's a knockdown in a round that person gets 8 pts, two knockdowns and he gets 7. If you're hit and your glove touches the mat it's counted as a knockdown. Rounds can also be scored 10-10 if nobody won it.


This is their first fight and their styles are completely different, Floyd is a defensive fighter while Manny is an offensive fighter. Floyd prides himself on not getting hit and avoiding damage while Manny comes at you from angles with a lot of speed and will take punches to land his own. Also, Floyd is orthodox (right handed) and Manny is a southpaw (left handed) so if you hear the announcers mention those things you'll know what they are, typically a southpaw has the advantage in fights because they've fought more right handed fighters than vice versa. There's a lot of strategy and footwork that goes into fights when a right handed fighter fights a left handed fighter, the announcers will probably say something along the lines that Floyd or Manny need to establish their lead foot outside. Their stances mirror one another, so whoever can get their lead foot on the outside can throw crosses (straight punches with their strong hand) down the middle without having to worry about taking return fire.
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Thanks everyone.

These rules sound very interesting and should make viewing the show a whole lot of fun. Do you lose points for illegal moves like punching below the belt?

Do most people bother with undercard fights? How do just two of these guys manage to become such huge stars? Who/what company hosts the fight? Who is the champion if there is one, and how does one get the right to fight for a championship?

Did these two just agree to fight for lots of money?

Also, with rules requiring judging, how controversial are the scores? Is it ever so close that people feel the potentially subjective judging decides the game as opposed to the fighting?
 
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abuC said:
He was held accountable and served time.
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And? He was doing this during his time as a boxer and he wasn't removed from the boxing circuit because of it. That's the issue. If he was convicted and went through the process before he entered boxing then it's another story but it's that it was during his time and boxing still kept him around which is the problem.
 
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TimeEffect said:
Thanks everyone.

These rules sound very interesting and should make viewing the show a whole lot of fun. Do you lose points for illegal moves like punching below the belt?

Do most people bother with undercard fights? How do just two of these guys manage to become such huge stars? Who/what company hosts the fight? Who is the champion if there is one, and how does one get the right to fight for a championship?

Did these two just agree to fight for lots of money?

Also, with rules requiring judging, how controversial are the scores? Is it ever so close that people feel the potentially subjective judging decides the game as opposed to the fighting?
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MAYWEATHER/PACQUIAO: AT LAST [Full Episode]: https://youtu.be/hF76dlQt23c

That's how we got here

And this:
Mayweather/Pacquiao: The Legends Speak [Full Epis…: https://youtu.be/R5gEjs5jfHw

Is a breakdown of what's about to happen, told by those who fought both men.

Enjoy
 
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Subpar Spatula said:
And? He was doing this during his time as a boxer and he wasn't removed from the boxing circuit because of it. That's the issue. If he was convicted and went through the process before he entered boxing then it's another story but it's that it was during his time and boxing still kept him around which is the problem.
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Uh, if he didn't serve time that wouldn't be an issue? That's hilarious. I don't think the negative reaction illicited from domestic abuse stems from its implications on a sport.
 
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abuC

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TimeEffect said:
Thanks everyone.

These rules sound very interesting and should make viewing the show a whole lot of fun.

Do most people bother with undercard fights? How do just two of these guys manage to become such huge stars? Who/what company hosts the fight? Who is the champion if there is one, and how does one get the right to fight for a championship?

Did these two just agree to fight for lots of money?

Also, with rules requiring judging, how controversial are the scores? Is it ever so close that people feel the potentially subjective judging decides the game as opposed to the fighting?
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You're welcome.


I watch the undercards, but I'm a boxing junkie that watches Golden Gloves so I'm not the best gauge for this kind of thing. Floyd was an Olympian, he won bronze in the Olympics but was clearly robbed of winning the gold, so he had some notoriety when he turned pro, also he comes from a boxing family in which his father and Uncle (also his trainer) were boxers, his Uncle was a world champion. Manny exploded onto the scene and really came out of nowhere, he got really popular after he started fighting the best Mexican fighters in his weight class, he got the nickname The Mexican Assassin after beating a lot of notable world champs or top contenders from Mexico. Boxing is huge in Mexico, so a guy from the Philippines running through all these great Mexican fighters got his name out there. Both became megastars after beating the last megastar; Oscar De La Hoya.

They mostly fight for money now and vacate whatever titles they do win because they don't need the governing bodies. Manny fights under promoter Bob Arum/ Top Rank Boxing on HBO, and Floyd fights for his own promotions on Showtime. They're fighting for a 60-40 split, Floyd is the draw and undefeated fighter so he gets the lionshare, he's expecting to make around $200 million tonight.


Judging and the promoters are the worst thing in boxing, there are usually robberies every week when it comes to fights and judging. One guy clearly wins, but the judges award the other guy the fight because they're in his home town, or he's more popular, it's really shady and probably the worst thing about the sport.
 
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Subpar Spatula said:
And? He was doing this during his time as a boxer and he wasn't removed from the boxing circuit because of it. That's the issue. If he was convicted and went through the process before he entered boxing then it's another story but it's that it was during his time and boxing still kept him around which is the problem.
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"Boxing" isn't an organization, boxers are basically independent contractors so what do you expect "boxing" to do when there's no centralized governing body.

He served his time, do you want them to revoke his license after he served a prison sentence?
 
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atomsk

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Quixzlizx said:
Damn, it doesn't seem like any of the bars around me are showing the fight, and I don't know anyone who's hosting a gathering. I really don't want to spend $90 for this.
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A bar cannot just order the $100 pay-per-view and show it on its televisions; it needs a licence to show the fight in public. G&G Boxing — the company selling the rights to show Saturday’s fight — reports the cost of the event “is determined by the occupancy of your establishment among other factors”. ESPN’s Darren Rovell reported the cost for this bout is $25 multiplied by the fire code occupancy of the location. It varies. Bar owners and managers report numbers around that. A bar manager in Wilmington, Delaware, says his place was quoted $5,000 for a 257-seat occupancy (about $20 a head). Cardrooms in California have been quoted as high as $50 a head. A Buffalo Wild Wings in Henderson, Nevada, was quoted $4,500 to show the fight.
You have to sell a lot of food and beer to cover such a high cost.
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http://uproxx.com/sports/2015/05/mayweather-pacquiao-not-cheap-for-bars/
 
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jediyoshi said:
Uh, if he didn't serve time that wouldn't be an issue? That's hilarious. I don't think the negative reaction illicited from domestic abuse stems from its implications on a sport.
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It's about accountability and knowing that if you've done something wrong that harmed other people your job wouldn't have your back.

abuC said:
"Boxing" isn't an organization, boxers are basically independent contractors so what do you expect "boxing" to do when there's no centralized governing body.

He served his time, do you want them to revoke his license after he served a prison sentence?
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Not support people who were convicted of domestic abuse during their time as a boxer? It's not hard to see why people don't want to support Floyd or this match seeing as how there's been very, very little consequences for him on the sporting side. It rubs people the wrong way and gives the impression it doesn't matter what he did.
 
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abuC said:
You're welcome.


I watch the undercards, but I'm a boxing junkie that watches Golden Gloves so I'm not the best gauge for this kind of thing. Floyd was an Olympian, he won bronze in the Olympics but was clearly robbed of winning the gold, so he had some notoriety when he turned pro, also he comes from a boxing family in which his father and Uncle (also his trainer) were boxers, his Uncle was a world champion. Manny exploded onto the scene and really came out of nowhere, he got really popular after he started fighting the best Mexican fighters in his weight class, he got the nickname The Mexican Assassin after beating a lot of notable world champs or top contenders from Mexico. Boxing is huge in Mexico, so a guy from the Philippines running through all these great Mexican fighters got his name out there. Both became megastars after beating the last megastar; Oscar De La Hoya.

They mostly fight for money now and vacate whatever titles they do win because they don't need the governing bodies. Manny fights under promoter Bob Arum/ Top Rank Boxing on HBO, and Floyd fights for his own promotions on Showtime. They're fighting for a 60-40 split, Floyd is the draw and undefeated fighter so he gets the lionshare, he's expecting to make around $200 million tonight.


Judging and the promoters are the worst thing in boxing, there are usually robberies every week when it comes to fights and judging. One guy clearly wins, but the judges award the other guy the fight because they're in his home town, or he's more popular, it's really shady and probably the worst thing about the sport.
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Floyd Money losing the Olympics was the most BS call that I ever witnessed.
 
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Tubie

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I think we're gonna need an OT with some info of the fight, the boxers and boxing in general.

I would do it, but I'm just terrible at making stuff like that.
 
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El Topo

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paolo11 said:
Floyd Money losing the Olympics was the most BS call that I ever witnessed.
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There has always been a lot of questionable judging at (Olympic) boxing. Actually I'd say whenever judges are involved there's a good chance of a questionable result, not just at boxing.
 
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abuC said:
Thanks!

I was going to post this in the Boxing thread, but since I know you can appreciate it and hopefully other new boxing fans will see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPztlXk3JSY

He's a genius...obvious bias aside, one of my favorite fighters today.
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He's been sparring with Pacquiao for this fight, supposedly.

Would love to see him in with Gamboa at featherweight. I don't know what happened between the two as amateurs, but I think it'll be a good pro fight.
 
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Bluefoot

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RadioHammer500 said:
so their are 2 fights before the may vs. pac fight

if those fights end early will the may vs. pac fight start earlier then?
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There is no set way they go about it, but yea, usually this would mean the fight would start earlier. A normal big time fight could happen within a cushion window of an hour, perhaps more, but those fights have more than two undercards.

For this fight, since its only two undercards, I doubt they will need to plan for this problem, probably will just start 1.5 hrs, or 2 hrs after it all starts, probably a set time regardless of how those two fights go.

I wonder who is on the undercards? I don't think theres a single good fight on the undercard, and two is very little also, it makes sense in some ways, but is a huge missed opp in other ways.

Usually you have like 6 undercard fights. Still, it would've been great for boxing to put up three mouth watering fights before the Pac Floyd, lots of exposure.

Problem is, boxing has so few mouth watering fights a year. IMO, boxing is inherently the best and most exciting sport there is. But the situations of past decades where the best were forced to fight the best, that situation is over now.

Boxing is quite fractured, lots of interest in not sacrificing cash cows.

Still, things are looking to change big time. Boxing is back on network TV in America, and there is an American HW with a belt, Wilder who could reignite boxing in the states.
 
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_illmatic_ said:
Most deff Rigondeaux doesn't get his credit in the sport at all. Love how he school Nonito Donaire.
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He's about to change his base from the US to the UK, he thinks he'll be able to make more money there.




MVP said:
He's been sparring with Pacquiao for this fight, supposedly.

Would love to see him in with Gamboa at featherweight. I don't know what happened between the two as amateurs, but I think it'll be a good pro fight.
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I think Crawford may have ruined Gamboa, I don't like Gamboa much, he's talented but lacks discipline.

He's trying to get Frampton & Quigg to fight him by going over to Europe.
 
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If I was PAC I wouldn't even swing at Mayweathers head until the 6th round. Actually I would do little jabs at his head to make Mayweather move and then move in with a rib shot.

All first 6 rounds. Body body body body body. Pound the shit out of those arms and ribs of Mayweathers. Once you see his steps get slower, move in for uppercuts as he ducks and dances. Just have to have a thick chin for those crosses and jabs you'll be taking.

Round 8-9 or so that's when I unleash on the head and body. He will start protecting his body leaving open head shots and ducking HURTS when your ribs are busted up
 
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Philippo

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Friend is coming to my house to see this live at 5 FUCKING AM.
We're new to this world, just a handful of months, but this is too hype to miss on.
 
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painey

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popped $100 on Mayweather. This is probably the last great fight ever in this sport. What a shitty fight it's probably gunna be, too.
 
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Lebron

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By all accounts Floyd should win by score, but I wouldn't be shocked if Manny pulls an upset somehow.


edit: I can't read time zones lol
 
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