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I liked him too - he seemed to be the only thing fresh about AoU. But all I could think about when seeing him was Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen. They were basically the same character how Vision was portrayed.

I didn't quite get that impression, but I can see why you did. They managed to make him feel so different and unique, even though it's a diverse team already. Visuals aside,
Vision's appreciation for humanity and "the right thing to do" contrasts with Manhattan's cold detachment and internalizing. I liked that. I also see the Superman comparison others are making, but he really feels fresh. I hope they do interesting things with him.
 
Just saw it, was super sick! I was disappointed when
they teased rukanda and a and we didn't even get a glimpse of black panther, UT was glad they included more than just the regular team for the climax
 
Movie really felt like a series of mashed together tv episodes rather than a standalone film. There's just so much going on that the film feels like it's all over the place.

I have to say that, overall, I think Whedon pulled it off. I was feeling a little meh on the film until the last third. The payoff will please fans - I honestly think it matches the first films' great, great team up fight.

One thing I really enjoy about Whedon's MCU films compared to the others is the love of physical humor.
 
Just got back from the movie and enjoyed it a lot.

Had to tell these two little white girls in front of me to be quiet or I was going to get an attendant to remove them because they were constantly talking the whole time. They got super scared after that, then 10 minutes later actually left the movie.


Also, Americlap is real! People clapped at the beginning, end credits and a certain part near the end of the movie as well!
 
Really enjoyed Evans in this one. Still haven't seen Cap 2 since you can't rent Marvel movies digitally apparently.

I'd heard a rumor once that they turn off rentals around the release of the big movies. Rentals were off for GotG and Cap2, but came back after a few weeks. Stupid move, but there it is.
 
shit is a must-watch, i'm surprised it isn't on Amazon :/

Disney/Marvel are smart. These movies are usually are Netflix streaming, but when they have movies coming out they get off the rental services and streaming.

I guess I'll shell out 20 bucks for the Blu ray.
 
Just got back. I think the first Avengers was better, but I enjoyed this a lot still. Some thoughts...spoilers and such!

Part of the reason why I think the first film was better was that AoU seemed to have more genuine problems than the Avengers, or at least problems that were not masked as well.

The pacing seemed a bit off in places, especially in the first 45 minutes or so, although it does hit a solid stride about halfway through. More jokes missed or didn't hit as hard in AoU. And certain things just didn't seem as well thought out. Like, maybe I missed something, but where the hell did Vision go for like the entire final fight? He shows up for a second and destroys Ultron's escape, but then he just like dissappears until he helps out Thor in a scene that felt a little out of place.

That being said, I still really loved it. Ultron was rad. Scarlet Witch was rad. The focus on Hawkeye and his obvious contrast to the rest of the team was rad and smart. Hulkbuster vs. Hulk was R-A-D. Also the first film just had some obvious advantages going for it, being the first time they assembled and all.

On that note, did anybody else kind of hate that they cut Cap off before he said assemble at the very end? I guess they were hoping the audience would want to just shout it for him, but I thought it was kind of lame.
 
This won't be a popular opinion, I think, but my first reaction was that I liked it better than the first Avengers. Now, granted, my opinions on movies are usually inflated right after the first viewing, and then they move more to the middle. But I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. Everything I liked the the first Avengers was here in spades, and the new members were great additions.

In fact, after watching, I came back and watched GotG. I'd definitely at least place AoU above that, and I loved GotG.

I also liked Iron Man 3, so factor that in to whether or not you'll like it like I did.

Right now, my top tier is AoU, Avengers, and Winter Solider. And choosing between them is tough.
 
Just got back from the movie and enjoyed it a lot.

Had to tell these two little white girls in front of me to be quiet or I was going to get an attendant to remove them because they were constantly talking the whole time. They got super scared after that, then 10 minutes later actually left the movie.
If you feel even slightly bad about that keep in mind that people around you were really glad when you warned them and extremely glad when they left. It was for the Greater Good.
 
My top 5 Marvel movies are:
1. Captain America: TWS
2. Avengers 2
3. Avengers
4. Iron Man
5. Guardians of the Galaxy


If we are counting all Marvel properties, it looks like this:

1. Daredevil
2. Captain America: TWS
3. Avengers 2
4. Avengers
5. Iron Man
 
Just got back from the movie and enjoyed it a lot.

Had to tell these two little white girls in front of me to be quiet or I was going to get an attendant to remove them because they were constantly talking the whole time. They got super scared after that, then 10 minutes later actually left the movie.


Also, Americlap is real! People clapped at the beginning, end credits and a certain part near the end of the movie as well!

How does it feel to see a movie blockbuster, the way it was meant to be seen?
 
So I saw it last night and I've taken some time to formalize my feelings about it.

I absolutely loved it, but it wasn't perfect. A few pacing issues, some of the action felt a bit too shaky or hard to follow. The story was very good and the characters were fantastic in this, much better than the first Avengers. I'd place AoU above Avengers but below CA:TWS and GotG, but not far below.

Spoiler alert though, my favorite character BY FAR was
Vision. Holy hell did they do a great job with him. Awesome introduction, great character development, superb handling of how the rest of the team responded to him and even addressing their concerns with him. The Vision was by far my favorite part of the film.

As for Ultron himself, I thought he was a decent antagonist in this. Not as good as Zod in MoS but better than most Marvel movie antagonists.

Overall a very solid film, I'll be seeing it again for certain.
 
So this is probably nothing but is the number 12 a thing in the Marvel Universe? Someone on Reddit noticed that:

1) In The Avengers, Tony says to Pepper he'll give her credit for 12% of the job on building Stark Tower.

2) In Guardians, Peter Quill has 12% of a plan.

3) In Age of Ultron, Wanda tells Pietro she's 12 minutes older than him.

Probably just a weird coincidence, but it's still odd.
 
My top 5 Marvel movies are:
1. Captain America: TWS
2. Avengers 2
3. Avengers
4. Iron Man
5. Guardians of the Galaxy


If we are counting all Marvel properties, it looks like this:

1. Daredevil
2. Captain America: TWS
3. Avengers 2
4. Avengers
5. Iron Man
I like the way you think with Daredevil at 1. :)

I go

1. Daredevil - Season 1
2. Guardians of the Galaxies
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
4. The Avengers
5. Iron Man
6. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Avengers: Age of Ultron
8. Iron Man 3
9. Agent Carter - Season 1
10. Thor
11. Agents of SHIELD - Season 2
12. Thor: The Dark World
13. Iron Man 2
14. Agents of SHIELD - Season 1
15. The Incredible Hulk
 
So this is probably nothing but is the number 12 a thing in the Marvel Universe? Someone on Reddit noticed that:

1) In The Avengers, Tony says to Pepper he'll give her credit for 12% of the job on building Stark Tower.

2) In Guardians, Peter Quill has 12% of a plan.

3) In Age of Ultron, Wanda tells Pietro she's 12 minutes older than him.

Probably just a weird coincidence, but it's still odd.

I think it was the other way around. Pietro was 12 minutes older than Wanda.
 
I can't find the post where the guy quoted me so I'm sorry for ignoring you.

I just wanted to say I hate when people refer to Spider Man as "street level".

Batman is street level. Daredevil and Punisher are street level.

Spider Man is clearly above those guys and that tier. He isn't cosmic level but he's held his own against powerful foes.

(I know batman fans want to speak up here, but batman is only able to hold his own against....GODS... because of popularity, not because it ever makes sense. We get it, Batman is cool. But him being a white lantern? Ehhh come on)
 
I can't find the post where the guy quoted me so I'm sorry for ignoring you.

I just wanted to say I hate when people refer to Spider Man as "street level".

Batman is street level. Daredevil and Punisher are street level.

Spider Man is clearly above those guys and that tier. He isn't cosmic level but he's held his own against powerful foes.

(I know batman fans want to speak up here, but batman is only able to hold his own against....GODS... because of popularity, not because it ever makes sense. We get it, Batman is cool. But him being a white lantern? Ehhh come on)
Spidey is street level. Taking on Kingpin, Hammerhead, muggers, robberies, crime syndicates, etc.
He's also able to fit right into the big leagues and fight alongside the Avengers and X-Men and everyone else
He's able to fit in both spectrums easily
 
Just saw it a few hours ago and it made me as giddy as a kid in the same way Avenger's did. Joss Whedon just gets it and knows what people find cool about superheroes and then just puts it on screen in all it's unabashed glory. I'm really going to miss him on Infinity War but hopefully he'll consult. Of course AoU is not going to have the same impact as Avengers. We've felt what it was like to see these heroes interact and fight with each other for the first time and it's an experience you can't recreate or even equal (except for maybe when the GotG meet the Avengers). This movie is more about the team trying to remain a team while facing new and greater challenges.

I do feel like it sort of dragged in the middle there but aside from that it had everything I could have hoped for. All the character interactions, teamwork, action, and world-building from Avengers was there and then some. This is a great movie and definitely a worthy installment in the MCU. The awesome thing about having an interconnected universe across multiple films is that I can't wait to see what kind of effect newcomers like Scarlet Witch and the Vision have on it. They really feel like the start of the bridge from the more grounded world of the Avengers to the Cosmic of GotG and Thanos.
 
I know people don't care too much about rankings, but here are mine:

1) Iron Man - I still feel like this is the best paced and structured out of the bunch, with a clear character arc for Tony, and probably some of the best humor.

2) Avengers 1 - The reason I love this one so much is because, yeah, it was the first time we're seeing Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Black Widow, and Hawkeye together being the Avengers. Nothing has come close to that.

3) Guardians of the Galaxy - It was a fun movie, with a different tone than the other Marvel movies, featuring a lesser known group of heroes, but still leaving a strong impact with me.

4) Captain America: The Winter Soldier - It probably has the best plot of the series so far, with a story that is genuinely interesting and unpredictable, with real ramifications for the MCU. It also served to highlight why Cap is the leader of the Avengers. It was the movie that really made me like Steve Rogers as a character, not just as Captain America.

5) Avengers: Age of Ultron - A fun, entertaining movie that mainly suffers because of the heavy editing it underwent to get the running time under control. Ultron was a solid antagonist, and Spader did a great job. It was nice seeing Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Banner/Hulk get more screen time.

6) Iron Man 3 - I really liked this one. I enjoyed the PTSD storyline for Tony, and the humor was surprising, considering how dark the trailers made the movie feel. I thought it had a great arc for Tony. The Mandarin twist was amusing and fun. He's a racist stereotype in the comics, so having him done away with in this fashion worked for me.

7) Captain America: The First Avenger - As a not big fan of Captain America, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this. It did a good job of establishing Steve as a good guy, with a desire to do right for his country. Red Skull was a cool villain, and the lead in to The Avengers was nice as well.

8) Thor - I was not expecting this movie to be pulled off well. I always thought Thor was kind of an out there character, but I highly enjoyed the "fish out of water" aspect of his character in this movie, and wish we had gotten more with that before he became accustomed to Earth and his desire to protect it. I strongly disliked the romantic plotline with Jane, because I felt Helmsworth and Portman had very little chemistry. Skaarsgard was great it in as well.

9) The Incredible Hulk - Hulk is a hard character to do justice in a stand alone, solo film, but I felt this movie did a good job of dealing with Banner's struggle to control the Hulk and his destructive nature. Abomination is a good choice for a first villain. Ed Norton was a very good Banner as well, but I still prefer Ruffalo's take on the character.

10) Thor: The Dark World - The problem with Thor's movies is that sometimes they feel completely disconnected from the overall goings on of the MCU. The Dark World was entertaining, but still felt ultimately inconsequential to the main plotline. I always enjoy seeing Tom Hiddleston and Kat Dennings, though. It's a shame that Eccleston's villain was so mediocre.

11) Iron Man 2 - I didn't hate this movie, because it had Sam Rockwell in it. He is always a hoot to watch. Mickey Rourke was wasted as Whiplash. It's not that Whiplash sucks, it's that they didn't really do enough to make him a genuine threat for a dude that wears a suit of armor. I also love Don Cheadle as War Machine, and think he and Downey have as much chemistry as Downey and Howard did in IM1. While it's my least favorite of the MCU flicks, I didn't outright hate it.

As a whole, the MCU is all watchable and fun, with some movies being stronger than the other. When you're dealing with an 11 movie series, not all of them can be amazing winners.
 
I know people don't care too much about rankings, but here are mine:

1) Iron Man - I still feel like this is the best paced and structured out of the bunch, with a clear character arc for Tony, and probably some of the best humor.

2) Avengers 1 - The reason I love this one so much is because, yeah, it was the first time we're seeing Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Black Widow, and Hawkeye together being the Avengers. Nothing has come close to that.

3) Guardians of the Galaxy - It was a fun movie, with a different tone than the other Marvel movies, featuring a lesser known group of heroes, but still leaving a strong impact with me.

4) Captain America: The Winter Soldier - It probably has the best plot of the series so far, with a story that is genuinely interesting and unpredictable, with real ramifications for the MCU. It also served to highlight why Cap is the leader of the Avengers. It was the movie that really made me like Steve Rogers as a character, not just as Captain America.

5) Avengers: Age of Ultron - A fun, entertaining movie that mainly suffers because of the heavy editing it underwent to get the running time under control. Ultron was a solid antagonist, and Spader did a great job. It was nice seeing Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Banner/Hulk get more screen time.

6) Iron Man 3 - I really liked this one. I enjoyed the PTSD storyline for Tony, and the humor was surprising, considering how dark the trailers made the movie feel. I thought it had a great arc for Tony. The Mandarin twist was amusing and fun. He's a racist stereotype in the comics, so having him done away with in this fashion worked for me.

7) Captain America: The First Avenger - As a not big fan of Captain America, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this. It did a good job of establishing Steve as a good guy, with a desire to do right for his country. Red Skull was a cool villain, and the lead in to The Avengers was nice as well.

8) Thor - I was not expecting this movie to be pulled off well. I always thought Thor was kind of an out there character, but I highly enjoyed the "fish out of water" aspect of his character in this movie, and wish we had gotten more with that before he became accustomed to Earth and his desire to protect it. I strongly disliked the romantic plotline with Jane, because I felt Helmsworth and Portman had very little chemistry. Skaarsgard was great it in as well.

9) The Incredible Hulk - Hulk is a hard character to do justice in a stand alone, solo film, but I felt this movie did a good job of dealing with Banner's Abomination is a good choice for a first villain. Ed Norton was a very good Banner as well, but I still prefer Ruffalo's take on the character.

10) Thor: The Dark World - The problem with Thor's movies is that sometimes they feel completely disconnected from the overall goings on of the MCU. The Dark World was entertaining, but still felt ultimately inconsequential to the main plotline. I always enjoy seeing Tom Hiddleston and Kat Dennings, though. It's a shame that Eccleston's villain was so mediocre.

11) Iron Man 2 - I didn't hate this movie, because it had Sam Rockwell in it. He is always a hoot to watch. Mickey Rourke was wasted as Whiplash. It's not that Whiplash sucks, it's that they didn't really do enough to make him a genuine threat for a dude that wears a suit of armor. I also love Don Cheadle as War Machine, and think he and Downey have as much chemistry as Downey and Howard did in IM1. While it's my least favorite of the MCU flicks, I didn't outright hate it.

As a whole, the MCU is all watchable and fun, with some movies being stronger than the other. When you're dealing with an 11 movie series, not all of them can be amazing winners.

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I thought Ultron's dialog was pretty good. I found myself listening hard to him to see if I actually agreed with what he was saying.
 
Spidey is street level. Taking on Kingpin, Hammerhead, muggers, robberies, crime syndicates, etc.
He's also able to fit right into the big leagues and fight alongside the Avengers and X-Men and everyone else
He's able to fit in both spectrums easily

Nearly every hero does or has done this.

Calling Spider-Man "street level" is an insult.

Spider-Man has fought Kraven, Venom and Carnage, Dr. Octopus, various heroes/villians during Civil War, etc. His power set makes him extremely overpowered on the street level. Cap is borderline street level and Spider Man can easily beat Cap in a non PIS-CIS fight.
 
Street level isn't an insult to Spidey. He cut his teeth doing street level stuff. Breaking up robberies, disrupting the Kingpin, Tombstone, and Hammerhead's operations on a regular basis.

It's just that Spidey is also incredibly versatile. He can handle the high level threats as well as the street level threats. The thing that keeps him from the true big leagues is his lack of real training. If he actually took the time to train with Steve Rogers more than the little bit he has, he would be a real powerhouse. Peter gets by on his athleticism and agility, and Spider Sense, of course. He's not really a tactician, and he hasn't had any formal combat training. I'd love to see him get that.

But calling him "street level" is hardly an insult.
 
Ultron Concept Art. Wish we got something along the line of these. Would have loved to see his original face design in there.

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Just got back from seeing the movie. I think I liked this better than Avengers 1. But I'm seriously bummed about
Quicksilver biting the bullet. I mean... wtf?! I like running, so naturally I like seeing the guy who is insanely fast quick ass - but then he dies?!
 
Street level isn't an insult to Spidey. He cut his teeth doing street level stuff. Breaking up robberies, disrupting the Kingpin, Tombstone, and Hammerhead's operations on a regular basis.

It's just that Spidey is also incredibly versatile. He can handle the high level threats as well as the street level threats. The thing that keeps him from the true big leagues is his lack of real training. If he actually took the time to train with Steve Rogers more than the little bit he has, he would be a real powerhouse. Peter gets by on his athleticism and agility, and Spider Sense, of course. He's not really a tactician, and he hasn't had any formal combat training. I'd love to see him get that.

But calling him "street level" is hardly an insult.

Right, he cut his teeth on street level characters.

But he's moved on from there. He fights almost exclusively superpowered foes, like Electro who is a huge, maybe world level threat.

He doesn't have to be a tactician because he relies heavily on his spider sense, perhaps even to his detriment. Parker is a genius level character who has developed his own fighting style and has super traits: speed, strength, reflexes, and so on.

That's not street level. He's above that. How much is a matter of debate, but it's insulting to a guy that has saved the world multiple times to be called street level.
 
Just got back from seeing the movie. I think I liked this better than Avengers 1. But I'm seriously bummed about
Quicksilver biting the bullet. I mean... wtf?! I like running, so naturally I like seeing the guy who is insanely fast quick ass - but then he dies?!
May as well just let the X-men movies have him. He was hard to top. Plus the Flash is coming too inevitably
 
I think I need to see it again to solidify my opinion. I thought it was entertaining, but I wasn't drawn into it that much, maybe I was too hyped about it. Would be interesting to see the blu-ray edition. Thought the were a lot of tight cuts between scenes. Would've been nice if some of them were able to breathe a bit more.

I do think that
the denouement wasn't that good. I was expecting the entire team to fight it out with Ultron, but it just took three of them defeat him enough that he jumps in a plane and to shoot people. (That's an odd thing to say.) Also, wished they didn't kill Quicksilver. He's a new character, which didn't have too much to do. There wasn't that much weight in him dying compared to Coulson.
 
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