MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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kinggroin said:
So you think he'll come out of retirement?
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Of course he will. Even if its not against Pacquiao he will come out to fight some nobody just for the record. His next fight being last fight is more about his contract ending with Showtime than anything else. He is bullshitting. If they offered him 100+ million again he will.
 
Lothars said:
It was my first time watching a Mayweather fight but wow it was just a boring fight. I am not a boxing fan and this did nothing for me at all.
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These kinds of hugely marketed, attention-getting fights are rarely the ones that actually convert people to becoming boxing fans these days. At the highest level and with these kinds of stakes, boxing is very technical, defensive, and quite frankly (for a majority of the population) just plain boring to watch.

Also see: the huge decline of the heavyweight division's popularity thanks to a brilliant, technical, defensive, "uncomfortable" boxer like Klitschko dominating for years.
 
Phat Michael said:
You should watch the fight then. Also look very carefully about how Manny's punches only connected with floyds gloves, elbows or in the air above his head. Just because someone throws lots of flurries, it doesnt mean anything . it was strange how the crowd kept cheering when manny was hitting nothing.
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"Throws lots of flurries" yet has less total punches than the other person.
 
Jigolo said:
Will watch if it happens
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PRBoricua said:
Mayweather says he'll fight Pacquiao after he recovers from surgery.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ather-says-willing-fight-manny-pacquiao-again
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Wouldn't surprise me at all. He'd be finished with Showtime so several procedural obstacles are removed. On top of that, it would give him a chance at breaking Marciano's record (assuming a victory this fall) by securing a victory over an injury-free Pac, further cementing his legacy by beating who many see as his #2 for a second time. I don't think Marciano's record or a zero in the loss column mean that much in terms of pound-for-pound legacy, but they clearly mean something to Floyd. And, obviously, Manny isn't the bogeyman he once was to Mayweather.

The icing on the cake would be the serendipity of doing all of this on the 60th anniversary of Marciano's retirement and in MGM's brand new arena. This shit writes itself. Count on it happening barring some weird loss this fall or Pacquiao's injury getting in the way somehow.

The only question is who the in-between guy has the misfortune of being. I'd say Khan, but a September date is not really doable for him. Floyd could push it, but I don't think he will, especially if he plans on fighting again in April or May. Thurman would be great, but I doubt Mayweather will fuck with a young brawler like him when he's got his sights set on a Pacquiao rematch the following spring. Time will tell. My guess is, if Pac's surgery and recovery go well and Floyd still wants a rematch, he'll fight someone like Garcia who he knows he can smoke.
 
I'm really surprised. If Floyd does this, he's a lot more concerned about legacy than people give him credit for.

He has no reason to do a rematch since he's already proven anything he has to prove.

If it actually happens, I wonder what the PPV draw will be. It's hard to imagine it being larger than this recent one.
 
Darren Rovell @darrenrovell · 24m 24 minutes ago
A class action lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao & Top Rank for failing to disclose injury has been filed. Class would involve tickets & PPV

tough week for manny lol
 
Baby Milo said:
Darren Rovell @darrenrovell · 24m 24 minutes ago
A class action lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao & Top Rank for failing to disclose injury has been filed. Class would involve tickets & PPV

tough week for manny lol
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If his injury is real there's no way he was going to escape this unscathed.
 
Yeah...I didn't even think of him fighting injured from this perspective, but it is interesting:

Manny Pacquiao's stupid decision cost us the fight of the century

...by fighting anyway, Pacquiao made the decision to take the loss and the money now. On the Friday leading up to the fight, Pacquiao was asked by a Nevada State Athletic Commission in a pre-fight examination and questionnaire whether he had any injuries to his shoulders, elbows, or hands that would require examination.

Pacquiao checked “no.” His trainers gave him the anti-inflammatory Toradol and into the ring he went.

Winning wasn’t important. How could you argue otherwise? If it was, he wouldn’t have fought. It’s simple as that. But Pacquiao did fight, and his injury affected his signature right hook so severely that he threw approximately 400 fewer punches than normal.

It wasn’t a heroic performance. It wasn’t gritty or determined.

It was stupid, wasteful, and disingenuous.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying "Manny cost us the fight of the century.." The fight we saw was pretty much how most Mayweather fight go once Floyd figure out the opponent. Pac healthy or not it will still end like the fight we just watched.
 
Meh, it sucks but no big deal(unless you lost money). If he would have delayed, people would be calling him a bitch and maybe less of a payday. It's a lose lose situation. But it's a pussy move to bring it up RIGHT AFTER you lose.

But hey if Floyd is down for a rematch then cool.
 
I feel just as jipped as the next guy but I really don't like how these lawsuits are popping up. It could set a very dangerous precedent in sports. Arum wasn't lying when be said that a lot of athletes play through alot of injuries that they don't disclose to the public. Its a part of sports. Do we really want to pressure athletes into sitting out after every knick and scrape?
 
I don't see why people have the notion that Floyd is obligated to entertain you. His job is to win fights, that's it. Hit and not get hit. That's the name of the game. He's not here to put on a show, he's not here to be reckless and risk his personal health for your entertainment like its some medieval shit.

People just don't like him because he's black and arrogant. Most of his arrogance comes from the simple fact that you love to hate him, and he plays the villain role perfectly to promote his own fights. Remember Mayweather is his own promotion team, he baits you to hate him with every video, instagram clip, flashiness etc. So in his next fight you can root against him. After every fight, he always shows crazy amounts of respect to his opponents and is humble. Then plays the villain mode to lead up to his next fight.
 
Dark Knyght said:
I don't see why people have the notion that Floyd is obligated to entertain you. His job is to win fights, that's it. Hit and not get hit. That's the name of the game. He's not here to put on a show, he's not here to be reckless and risk his personal health for your entertainment like its some medieval shit.

People just don't like him because he's black and arrogant. Most of his arrogance comes from the simple fact that you love to hate him, and he plays the villain role perfectly to promote his own fights. Remember Mayweather is his own promotion team, he baits you to hate him with every video, instagram clip, flashiness etc. So in his next fight you can root against him. After every fight, he always shows crazy amounts of respect to his opponents and is humble. Then plays the villain mode to lead up to his next fight.
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Some people also don't like him because he's a serial domestic abuser who beat the mother of his children in front of said children and then paraded them out at the fight to show how much of an upstanding family man he is.
 
reggieandTFE said:
Some people also don't like him because he's a serial domestic abuser who beat the mother of his children in front of said children and then paraded them out at the fight to show how much of an upstanding family man he is.
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Alternatively, should he keep them locked up at home so you could then complain about that?
 
Frog-fu said:
I adore Ali as a boxer, I think he truly is The Greatest, but he never convincingly beat Frazier to the point that he was a clear cut above him. The first fight was definitely Frazier's, no doubt about it. The second was Ali's. Their third and final bout could have gone either way. Ali was ready to forfeit when Frazier's corner threw in the towel despite Frazier still wanting to go despite barely being able to see in one eye.

Ali and Frazier were clearly evenly matched throughout the entirety rivalry. I think Frazier was the only who Ali admitted to being impervious to his mindgames.
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Also need to remeber that Frazier was near blind in his left going into fights due to an injury he suffered earlier in his career, so Frazier good eye being nearly swollen shut essentially made him a legally blind man competing in a boxing match.

And he still was ready to rumble, while Ali was trying to quit on his stool.
 
Baby Milo said:
Darren Rovell @darrenrovell · 24m 24 minutes ago
A class action lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao & Top Rank for failing to disclose injury has been filed. Class would involve tickets & PPV

tough week for manny lol
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This is what you get for making excuses rather than admitting defeat.
 
I was watching the Filipino TV news this morning (Unang Hirit) and they were interviewing him about the injury and so forth. According to Pacquiao, the reason why he pushed thru the fight because he felt no pain on his shoulder after his injury while on training. When Money May hit his shoulder on the 4th Round, that's were the injury flared up.

He did not comment on what to do with his adviser (who checked no to his injury) when reporters asked him.

He's also aware of the lawsuit but did not comment on that as well.

I may forget some other details but if other Pinoys watched that interview, please correct me if I made some discrepancies.
 
paolo11 said:
I was watching the Filipino TV news this morning (Unang Hirit) and they were interviewing him about the injury and so forth. According to Pacquiao, the reason why he pushed thru the fight because he felt no pain on his shoulder after his injury while on training. When Money May hit his shoulder on the 4th Round, that's were the injury flared up.

He did not comment on what to do with his adviser (who checked no to his injury) when reporters asked him.

He's also aware of the lawsuit but did not comment on that as well.

I may forget some other details but if other Pinoys watched that interview, please correct me if I made some discrepancies.
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Presumably he's talking about this punch.

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50-0 and last match for Mayweather and Pacquiao would draw huge crowds. It would even be bigger then the first fight.

I can totally see the rematch in a year or so.
 
Well, they claim the injury kept improving until it was quite good, but not 100%, but close. So that is perhaps why they checked no, for his injury. This kinda technicality is a bit meaningless. The NSAC denied PAC the shot, because they were looking for a reason to deny it. Minor niggles and injuries are frequently not disclosed on these questionnaires. and NSAC knew Pac took the antiinflammatory shot a month before, they approved it, so they knew of the injury previously. They are just in Floyds pocket.

Team Mayweather had a spy in Pacs camp, Floyd knew of the injury two weeks prior to the fight. Floyd was allowed painkilling shots in both his hands and fists, yet Pac was denied this for his right shoulder. Fuck the technicality.

Floyd would be a fool not to want the rematch. Heres, the thing, Pac, got schooled the first three rounds, completely schooled. Before the injury.

Pac will be even older, even rustier, less ferocious. Pac relies on that crazy work rate, but people seem like they haven't noticed that crazy work rate started to vanish about 5 years ago, until now, where he is a bit washed up.

Old Pac, that bulldozed Cotto, that was his prime. Now, Floyds technique will obviously takeover since they are past their athletic primes.

And this fight will certainly not be bigger than May Pac I. It might end up being the second biggest fight, but it will probably do close to half of the first.
 
No one will beat Money May anymore. He is the best in this generation. Now is the time for us boxing fans (talking to the doubters/haters) to respect and appreciate his absolute defense because I don't think we will find another smart, fast and agile fighter like Money May.

Pacquiao is an amazing fighter no doubt. I'm still a fan but I admit his flaws. Let's keep it real. Money May is number 1 and Pac is number 2.
 
paolo11 said:
No one will beat Money May anymore. He is the best in this generation. Now is the time for us boxing fans (talking to the doubters/haters) to respect and appreciate his absolute defense because I don't think we will find another smart, fast and agile fighter like Money May.

Pacquiao is an amazing fighter no doubt. I'm still a fan but I admit his flaws. Let's keep it real. Money May is number 1 and Pac is number 2.
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Not really. Pac has had the more amazing, meaningful and important fights. Floyd never captured anybodies imagination.

Pac took more chances and as had far more sensational moments. His careers tops Floyds, imo.

Pac also has titles in more weight classes, and is quite a bit smaller than Floyd. Floyd never fought the best at JMW, but Pac did the equivalent, which is fight the best WWs.

Floyd will be remembered by the hardcore boxing community, but its the Pac classics that will be on ESPN, and HBO on repeat, not the Floyd fights.
 
Bluefoot said:
Not really. Pac has had the more amazing, meaningful and important fights. Floyd never captured anybodies imagination.

Pac took more chances and as had far more sensational moments. His careers tops Floyds, imo.

Pac also has titles in more weight classes, and is quite a bit smaller than Floyd. Floyd never fought the best at JMW, but Pac did the equivalent, which is fight the best WWs.

Floyd will be remembered by the hardcore boxing community, but its the Pac classics that will be on ESPN, and HBO on repeat, not the Floyd fights.
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That's a matter of opinion. In the end, when two great fighters fought on the same level and the other one, the public will remember who the victor is. Plus I'm not talking about their achievements. I'm talking about who the better boxer is and that fight proved that Money May is the best. It's truth. You can deny it but it won't change facts.

You saw the fight. Money May dominately beat Pac. There should not be any argument who the better fighter is in this generation. No excuses.
 
kodecraft said:
Beautiful punch from Mayweather. He kept throwing this punch to stop Manny from coming in with awkward combos. Boxing is a thinking man's game not a brawl.
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In the first couple of rounds, Manny was doing great at hedging to Floyd's left so this exact thing doesn't happen, but was less aggressive at it as the bout progressed. He needed to be more relentless, like Nadal is to Federer's backhand.

I love following these dynamics. That's why I was entertained by the match despite the relative lack of action.
 
Bluefoot said:
Not really. Pac has had the more amazing, meaningful and important fights. Floyd never captured anybodies imagination.

Pac took more chances and as had far more sensational moments. His careers tops Floyds, imo.

Pac also has titles in more weight classes, and is quite a bit smaller than Floyd. Floyd never fought the best at JMW, but Pac did the equivalent, which is fight the best WWs.

Floyd will be remembered by the hardcore boxing community, but its the Pac classics that will be on ESPN, and HBO on repeat, not the Floyd fights.
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You keep on giving with the bullshit. Pacquiao lost. Your man stepped to the best and was made to look like a rank amateur, no different than most purported to be "the one" to take Mayweather down a peg or two.
 
I've been seeing it a lot how Mayweather had it easy in regards to his opponents and that they were mostly average. I disagree. I think too many people are looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses, I definitely think overall the standards and skill of boxing has risen over the years. It's not that Mayweather got to where he is today by fighting average fighters, it's that he makes those fighters LOOK average, he's just that good.

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Is this true? Popped up on my Google Now. Mayweather's win declared void by Nevada Athletic Commission. Some of the reasons why outlined below.

http://adobochronicles.com/2015/05/...ommission-voids-mayweather-win-over-pacquiao/

In voiding the fight results, Aguilar presented a laundry list of what went wrong:

- The Pacquiao camp did not disclose the Filipino boxer’s rotator cuff injury in the pre-fight medical questionnaire.
- The Pacquiao camp alleged that Manny was denied a legal injection to relieve the pain from his injured shoulder.
- In addition to filling out the medical questionnaire, both Pacquiao and Mayweather should have been examined by an independent medical doctor.
- While both boxers weighed under 147 pounds during the official weigh-in on Friday, Pacquiao and Mayweather weighed way over the welterweight maximum weight on Saturday.
- The judges’ summary scoresheet was not filled out correctly, casting doubt on whether it was Mayweather or Pacquiao who scored higher.
- There were more hugs than punches during the 12-round fight, especially by Mayweather.
- Both camps violated a new commission rule that no celebrities are allowed as part of the boxers’ official entourage. Mayweather had Justin Bieber in his entourage while Pacquiao had late night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel.
- Three national anthems were sung during the fight — U.S., Philippine and Mexican national anthems. The singing of the Mexican anthem misled many spectators and television viewers to think that Pacquiao was Mexican.

In addition, Aguilar said that numerous lawsuits against Pacquiao, the boxing promoter and even the Nevada Athletic Commission have started to emerge, and “it is the commission’s responsibility to protect and preserve the integrity of professional boxing.”
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