Crossing Eden
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Some in this thread disagree and think the Witcher 2 looks better. Which is just ridiculous.
Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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Raven77
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Sorry but the OP clearly shows same scene \ same time of day.
Their was definitely a downgrade in at least some of the effects / lighting.
So much hyperbole.
TheJesusFish
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Welcome to internet outrage.
Geralts model and the beast model are looking way better, armour too, the spell Geralt is casting looks better, the ruins are looking basically the same, and only the foliage looks better in the older one
While I can agree with you, I think it's terrible to judge a game just because of graphics.
But yet, I remember when I saw The Witcher 3 for the first time: "Wow, how the hell CDPR can make a game more beautiful than EVERY OTHER studio?". I was THAT impressed.
I know that Witcher 3 seems to be an awesome game and I will probably buy sometime, but that was they sold to us, and since everybody is burned for the last year of downgrades (specially Watch Dogs and Dark Souls 2), people are overreacting about this.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Literally known of the scenes in the OP are of the same TOD.
I'm with Sn4ke on this one.
The pre release shots vs the actual in game footage were downgraded.
Not to a major extent, as in a I felt cheated but to an extent that if you looked for the downgrade then you'd find it.
AC:Unity's lighting was left unchanged though which I thought was nice.
Anyway there's a clear downgrade here, in foliage, LOD and texture work as well as its clear assets have been replaced.
But also as others have said, Devs have to make these choices in order for the game to remain in a playable state (watchdogs took the piss though) so I'm not one bit mad.
This game still looks really good considering the amount of detail that is in some of these screens!
My pre-order is still ready to ship!
zufuel
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I just find it hilarious. Watch Dogs was missing some shadow effects and a few minor lighting and other details compared to the reveal, sure. But when the newest footage doesn't blow people away like the original, it's suddenly a generational step backward. The most hilarious was when people were flipping their shit over literally one small, low quality GIF. One GIF. That's all it took.
The difference here is that Ubi intentionally removed effects from the PC version (because their management is dumber than bricks) whereas with the Witcher 3 they created vertical slice scenarios for their reveal and then realized it was unrealistic to maintain that level of quality throughout the world. It's not really that big of a deal imo considering how good the end results are. I'd much rather have that over wildly inconsistent performance.
Totally. The amount of detail and enormous world
Insanely gorgeous.
Which platform? X1 or PC?
PC, but what we have seen of the console versions looks pretty much like that even in compressed to hell and back footage.
PS4:
PC.
I think Witcher 2 looked better in 2011 than Witcher 3 does in 2015, but the latter is still the more impressive game, despite its numerous shortcomings.
Actually, the reason it won't happen is because of the realities of game development, not for the reasons some of you imagine. No matter how much you exaggerate downgrades or complain it's not going to change those realities. At best you might encourage devs to simply stop showing their games until much closer to release, but I don't see how that benefits anyone.
Think about it, nearly every big game these days has some downgrade claims directed at it. Everything from Infamous Second Son and Assassin's Creed Unity to Uncharted 4 and The Witcher 3. Some of these games are made by some of the most well-regarded developers in the industry. So what's more likely?: that all these devs are really incompetent, lying douchebags or that some gamers simply don't understand the realities of game development and also tend to be very poor judges of game graphics?
Some people are crazy. Are they forgetting the horrid dithering present in Witcher 2? That being gone is a big improvement alone
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I disagree, I even did a 1:1 screenshot comparison in a thread a while back. Actually there were plenty of upgrades in the final game, like the cloth physics not having tons of clipping when Arno crouches.
How? I mean let's see what we have here:
Witcher 3 has much better cloth physics, physically based rendering and much better shaders for things like skin, facial and character animation(these two had huge improvements), better foliage physics, more advanced lighting, better effects from particle effects to dust, and all of this is before you add hairworks and all the other nvidia tech.
So how, or why do you think it looks better?
I really like this screen which is maybe one, two weeks old
I actually do not think that is too far off from this:
at all.
zufuel
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Denton
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I remember that gif, it was crazy.
Funnily enough WD looks really great on ultra, just few effects are missing (which is still a shame of course).
Fried Food
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I thought some of these screens could be from Witcher 2...until I went back and looked at Witcher 2 screenshots.
Now that was a bullshit trailer.
2blackcats
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This.
Chinner NO!! Please don't say it!
Especially in motion. The grass in W2 is awful without mods.
You have to admit that in-engine trailer was impressive.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Well technically it was using all in-game assets. I'm expecting some things like explosions to not be as intense to help with framerate however. Definitely wouldn't be shocked with a reduced resolution on consoles.
New evidence apparently:
Same time of day according to people who viewed the stream before you ask.
I still think it looks good! Can't wait to play!
Different platforms. First pic is from PS4, second is from PC.
Trojan
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Truth right here. The sheer lack of common sense and understanding of the realities of game development in this thread is staggering. There is a portion of posters in here that simply have no understanding of what consitutes a vertical slice created for marketing vs. completing an entire game and getting It to run smoothly on a variety of systems.
His Majesty
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New evidence apparently:
Same time of day according to people who viewed the stream before you ask.
I still think it looks good! Can't wait to play!
First screenshot must be PS4 or Xbox One (those are the only leaked copies) while the second is from a PC build. Also weather effects.
New evidence apparently:
Same time of day according to people who viewed the stream before you ask.
I still think it looks good! Can't wait to play!
Top is PS4 and bottom is PC.
New evidence apparently:
Same time of day according to people who viewed the stream before you ask.
I still think it looks good! Can't wait to play!
Pretty sure that's PS4 vs PC footage.
you think its downgraded now? wait until you see what the day one performance patch does
What is that? Some super early unmodified Aurora engine footage?
New evidence apparently:
Same time of day according to people who viewed the stream before you ask.
I still think it looks good! Can't wait to play!
I don't understand.. what's the purpose of this comparison? One is PS4 footage from a stream, one is from the PC version.. one is with clear sky (PC) and one has under clouds (PS4)..
I still think it looks good, but since when does geometry get downgraded to that extent between PS4 and PC?
Uno Venova
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Are there any console direct screenshots yet? People have the game now right?
As if you've proved anything in this thread. All you've done is post bare assertions. His opinion is just as valid as your opinion.
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