I've been calling it a territory control game since the last 4 pages ... Yeah it's not a Fps , it'a a TPS , well done avoiding the main point ... they all have voice chat.
I pointed out all that I wanted to say on the matter. So it's deemed a standard for a specific genre, not the "industry standard" being bandied about in every page of the thread, then. I can handle that and didn't have anything else to comment on in that regard. But since you brought it up, I guess I should clarify that the point is conceded.
Nobody is saying that voice chat will magically change everyone minds. The majority of people here in the last 10 pages are arguing whenever the game is better ( or could be better ) with or without it. The argument has been made that allowing voice chat with your friends should solve many problemspeople had with the game so far. It's not a matter of "community" , community can exist without voice chat , but in the global context of the TPS ( even if you're in a domination POV ) , it can help with the creation of community. It's a tool, it's an option that has helped before in many games and could help in this one.
I can bring quotes up that specifically state that Splatoon will not be able to foster or maintain a community without its presence. That was the commentary I was addressing that I disagree with.
Yes, it can function as a means of community building, but by far not the biggest or most effective way. It also only builds a community among people who have already bought the game, and Nintendo is already serving community events and functions to those individuals to keep them engaged.
They have a pretty good track record of keeping buyers playing their Wii U online games so far, I see no reason to think they can't keep the fire burning here, even without this function.
Because, some people do read what the consummers are thinking.If consummers ( you and i ) are talking about it , there is a chance that it could gather attention. It's too late for this game , but if there is a splatton 2 , this is already feedback for later. Discussing is helpfull , especially if the conversation is public. If the game is sucessfull in the west but not in japan, do you think they will magically ignore the feedback from us ?
So what you're telling me is that you think Nintendo scours message boards for feedback? My personal understanding is that they generally don't. You're gambling that they are paying attention to you by not addressing your concerns directly with them. "Feedback", by its very definition, would have to return to whoever or whatever incited the response.
We don't need to give any excuse for a game company not to hear our concerns by assuming they thoroughly inspect every corner of the internet, even a prevalent place like GAF. If you want to hope that Nintendo maybe gets the message on the possibility that it finds and reads this thread, so be it, but don't be surprised or further upset when nothing happens.
But what's being done here IS the first step , if you want to voice your opinion on nintendo twitter or on social media , be my guest. I certainly will once the full game will be available.
But preemptive discussion shouldn't be stopped. The fact that some people like it as it is, and there are people who want something else is feedback ... Many develloppers gather feedback from every place. i'd be a fool to censor myself when , here on neogaf i can tell my opinion.
At this point, it's not "preemptive discussion". As stated, this is hardly the first discussion that's ever been had on the subject, it's at least the 3rd I have seen on this exact subject from this same company. Only the name of the game about to be released has changed, if the discussion was being had because of a game release at all, since this has been discussed since the console's launch. If we keep having the same discussion, then it seems to me there's no 2nd step in sight for anyone who cares so deeply about it.
And who said anything about censorship? I certainly didn't.
Complaining to them near release is silly, i'd see how the release" product is , and then i'll act as i see fit. Maybe i won't be alone who knows .. splatton has been so far quite open in what they intend to do , so i'll wait for the final product , in the meantime i discuss about what i know.
Yeah, that would have worked out great for people who wanted an Xbox One if people didn't voice their displeasure about it at E3 and waited til it hit a store shelf, I'm sure.
There's no such thing as a right time to do this. Why wait until there's no hope of it being invested in this game and getting it running instead of doing it now before the other multiplayer modes hit the game that would make the best use of it?
It just sounds to me like making excuses so that people can forget all about it when the shiny new thing gets released, the conversation dies down and we repeat the same discussion yet again with the next game to come about, rather than fix it. But if that's what everyone wants, who am I to tell them no, I guess?
An inconvenience no doubt. Taking another one for Nintendo. 
