Tom Brady suspended for 4 games; Patriots lose first-round draft pick; fined $1 mil

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As I suspected. 4 games,

Will get it knocked down to 2 after appeal.

No big deal.Patriots go unpunished. Goodell really is amazing. We all knew it be 4=2.

What a joke.
 
It sucks that the Dolphins don't play the Pats within those four games, because I would have loved to see Jimmy shit his pants in fear when he sees Ndamukong Suh on the other side.

As a Dolphins fan, let me gloat a little bit, okay?

Be honest, you would rather him step on Brady.
 
Why is Brady being punished if they had no proof? That is really...odd.

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What does it matter? They won the Superbowl and that's whats in the NFL history books.

Just like the other scandals that led them to Superbowl victories.
 
I'm surprised it was this much considering other ball tampering cases before. My guess is the NFL floated the case out there to judge public reaction and then move. 4 games seems like enough to piss off Pats fans and Brady haters alike.
 
The NFL is a fucking joke.

No penalty for the Vikings or the Panthers for messing with their balls, yet an over the top fine and suspension for what amounts to absolutely nothing. An investigation with no real evidence and contradictory science is enough.

This really was a witch hunt against the Patriots. This is a rule the NFL didn't look at closely or enforce, and more likely than not was an oversight rather than anything deliberate.

But now whoever at the NFL had a grudge against the Patriots has their pound of flesh.

I'm surprised it was this much considering other ball tampering cases before. My guess is the NFL floated the case out there to judge public reaction and then move. 4 games seems like enough to piss off Pats fans and Brady haters alike.

This was a suspension for being the Patriots, not for any violation of rules or regulations.
 
Deflating footballs is that horrible of an action? I'm sorry but this has made me just question why I should care about the sport. It's basically a non-issue for me. Lions got robbed even worse, there was actually officials coming off the party bus of the other team and people are up in arms regarding deflated balls over actual officials being brided? Please there's no creditibilty of the NFL

ugh. I still get hot and bothered every time I think of that game. Finally the Lions have a chance to do something in a season and the refs had to ruin it. Doubt I'll ever get over it. *steamed*
 
On the positive side, maybe a 5 week vacation for Brady will be good for him.

As I suspected. 4 games,

Will get it knocked down to 2 after appeal.

No big deal.Patriots go unpunished. Goodell really is amazing. We all knew it be 4=2.

What a joke.

Again, they did not go unpunished. Losing a first round pick is pretty big.
 
The punishment would've been a lot worse if it was a small market team but of course the NFL has to protect the bigger markets.
 
4 games is nothing for the Patriots. Will still win the division easily.

The loss of the first round pick in 2016 is more hefty, though. But considering the Patriots success with 1st round picks lately, it's not even that bad.
 
You know your multiple-Super-Bowl-winning franchise is in sad shape when the only thing that can give you joy is seeing the team that owns yours get cheated out of a win.

Also:

Mike Baker ‏@ByMikeBaker 8m
Punishments for improper use of needles:
-Olympics: Medals revoked
-Tour de France: Title revoked
-MLB: 162-game ban
-NFL: 4-game ban

What is the context for each of those?

The Pats/Brady were punished for lying and not cooperating, the whole integrity aspect is bullshit.
 
The NFL does have a pretty bad track record in the courts lately.

It depends on what they've done him on. The NFL issues in court was for subsequently applying a harsher punishment to issues which had fixed punishments or retroactively increasing punishments.

Since 4 games is a standard punishment not really sure that applies. If they've done Brady for no-cooperation or lying to the investigators then the arbitration court would probably find it difficult to overturn, although they may reduce.

Remember in terms of fact finding, the NFL's standard of proof is balance of probabilities as it's a civil matter. People say the Wells report prevaricated but it was written exactly to the burden of proof required for the proceedings.
 
If Jimmy G comes in and delivers, the fear on the rest of the NFLs face will be priceless.

Expecting an appeal and hoping its reduced to two games... Wanna go to that Dallas game.
 
Goodell once again making up random punishments. Why do they lose draft picks if the report said it was just on Brady?

This is why the NFL keeps getting rebuffed and looking like a joke. The punishments they dish out make no sense.
 
The NFL is a fucking joke.

No penalty for the Vikings or the Panthers for messing with their balls, yet an over the top fine and suspension for what amounts to absolutely nothing. An investigation with no real evidence and contradictory science is enough.

This really was a witch hunt against the Patriots. This is a rule the NFL didn't look at closely or enforce, and more likely than not was an oversight rather than anything deliberate.

But now whoever at the NFL had a grudge against the Patriots has their pound of flesh.
I'm getting this feeling too
 
What the fuck you talking about losing a first round pick is huge.

For any other team.

Pats probably would have just traded down for a couple of third round no-bodies lol

But yes, a first round pic is big, people who say otherwise are just saying that because nothing is good enough when the punishment is against Brady/Pats
 
Be honest, you would rather him step on Brady.

Guilty as charged.

Seeing Suh line up against Geno Smith is guaranteed to be hilarious, it just sucks that the Jets-Dolphins game at Pro Player Or Whatever They're Calling It This Week Stadium is being played in London instead.
 
You know your multiple-Super-Bowl-winning franchise is in sad shape when the only thing that can give you joy is seeing the team that owns yours get cheated out of a win.

Also:

Mike Baker ‏@ByMikeBaker 8m
Punishments for improper use of needles:
-Olympics: Medals revoked
-Tour de France: Title revoked
-MLB: 162-game ban
-NFL: 4-game ban

Lol improper use of needles.
 
The NFL is a fucking joke.

No penalty for the Vikings or the Panthers for messing with their balls, yet an over the top fine and suspension for what amounts to absolutely nothing. An investigation with no real evidence and contradictory science is enough.

This really was a witch hunt against the Patriots. This is a rule the NFL didn't look at closely or enforce, and more likely than not was an oversight rather than anything deliberate.

But now whoever at the NFL had a grudge against the Patriots has their pound of flesh.



This was a suspension for being the Patriots, not for any violation of rules or regulations.

Is this what being a Penn State fan is like
 
I think 4 games is just right for this type of offence - just that the four games should have been served starting with the Superbowl, not after.
 
The NFL is a fucking joke.

No penalty for the Vikings or the Panthers for messing with their balls, yet an over the top fine and suspension for what amounts to absolutely nothing. An investigation with no real evidence and contradictory science is enough.

This really was a witch hunt against the Patriots. This is a rule the NFL didn't look at closely or enforce, and more likely than not was an oversight rather than anything deliberate.

But now whoever at the NFL had a grudge against the Patriots has their pound of flesh.



This was a suspension for being the Patriots, not for any violation of rules or regulations.

The penalties are almost certainly for non co-operation with the investigation in the main. The NFL can't subpoena it relies on the carrot and the stick for co-operation. Come clean you get the carrot of reduced punishment, fail to co-operate you get the stick. It's stick time, baby!
 
ugh. I still get hot and bothered every time I think of that game. Finally the Lions have a chance to do something in a season and the refs had to ruin it. Doubt I'll ever get over it. *steamed*


Hey, it's even worse. The pats got punished for something lesser then what the cowboys did with the ref. bribing officials is apparently not a big deal but deflated balls are the end of the world
 
The concussion protocols not being properly followed during the Super Bowl and other playoff games are the bigger issue that doesn't really get enough attention. The League likes to tout how it's addressing the issue and how the number of concussions are down year over year, but it's patently obvious it's a system of selective enforcement. If you're not willing and committed to make star players go through the process in big games, you can't really claim the health and well-being of the players is the priority. Not that it has ever been true or that most people believed it, but the ridiculousness of it is getting hard to ignore.
 
You know your multiple-Super-Bowl-winning franchise is in sad shape when the only thing that can give you joy is seeing the team that owns yours get cheated out of a win.

Also:

Mike Baker ‏@ByMikeBaker 8m
Punishments for improper use of needles:
-Olympics: Medals revoked
-Tour de France: Title revoked
-MLB: 162-game ban
-NFL: 4-game ban
Tell whoever the fuck Mike Baker is that no evidence exists of "improper use of needles" besides the first half of one game (that the Patriots won even with proper inflation). Brady has thrown dozens and dozens of interceptions and only once has the inflation issue come up.
 
Yeah. Honestly, this is the type of thing that should get you banned for a season IMO. It basically destroyed the integrity of the entire last season of the NFL.

I can't tell if you people are being serious anymore.

I'm of the opinion that it's an adequate punishment. It isn't so much that the cheating act itself was that big of a deal, it's that it was so blatant, they got caught, and then lied about it. Impossible for the league to ignore that after a season of controversy.

The pick will be in the late 20s, the million dollars is nothing to Kraft, and Brady probably would have sat 4 games at his age anyway. This allows the other 31 team fanbases to feel as if the Pats are not above the law, without doing something as stupid as marring the result of one of the best Super Bowls of the past decade or implying that the Colts had any chance of winning the AFC championship game with a few more PSI.
 
Why is Brady being punished if they had no proof? That is really...odd.

There was basically proof. And this wasn't a court of law.

Mix in Brady refusing to cooperate and the Pats stonewalling and going so far as to demand an apology, and you get an angry NFL.

That STILL gave a weak ass punishment.
 
Seems like a low price to pay to cheat your way to a championship.

Oh well. Hope karma does the job next year to these cheaters.
 
Tell whoever the fuck Mike Baker is that no evidence exists of "improper use of needles" besides the first half of one game (that the Patriots won even with proper inflation). Brady has thrown dozens and dozens of interceptions and only once has the inflation issue come up.

Not just won, but steamrolled them in the SECOND HALF. The first half was actually close.
 
The punishment would've been a lot worse if it was a small market team but of course the NFL has to protect the bigger markets.

a non-Patriot team would have never had the call-to-arms that this whole thing did

I'd imagine that if any other team in the NFL did what the Pats did it'd just be a fine


I'm not a Pats fan either, in fact they beat my team in their only super bowl appearance (Panthers ;__;)
 
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