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[methodman]

Wait, do you really think Brady's legacy is in the toilet because of a slightly deflated football? I, um, disagree. Strongly.

no i truly don't. i think after his suspension is over, this will all be blown away and no one will care anymore.

i'm just sad we are still stuck with kap when tom was born 30 miles away from santa clara

 

[JABEE]

Hopefully Brady gets the Pete Rose treatment from Canton.

Pete will get in one day.

Brady and Belichick ruined the integrity of the Super Bowl. You might as call him Uggless Tom!

"Say it ain't, so!"

Some Civil War humor!

 

[mreddie]

Oh Goodell, you're so pointless.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

1 > ****

Peyton's Individual Accomplishments > T*m's Tainted Legacy

Call him a choker all you want, thems the facts little feller.

he is a choker though

thems the facts

 

[cdyhybrid]

Are they a player violations? Do you really believe no one in organizations realizes when players are using PEDs?

And I said every team cheats. Why bring up the Patriots again? They are one of the "every team"

Last I checked the punishment for a positive PED test is a player being suspended, not a team losing draft picks.

My point was that even if you believe "every team cheats", the Pats go above and beyond everyone else when it comes to breaking the rules.

 

[Spinluck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94yWGkoA6o

Skeletons in your closet
Itchin' to come outside
Messin' with your conscience
In a way your face can't hide

Oh things are gettin' real funky
Down at the old corral
And it's not the skunks that are stinkin'
It's the stinkin' lies you tell

[Bridge]
What did your mama tell you about lies
She said it wasn't polite to tell a white one
What did your daddy tell you about lies
He said one white lie turns into a black one

So, it's gettin' ready to blow
It's gettin' ready to show
Somebody shot off at the mouth and
We're getting ready to know

It's gettin' ready to drop
It's gettin' ready to shock
Somebody done turned up the heater
An' a it's gettin' ready to pop

Crevices in your pantry
Now what do we have in here
Havin' a day time nightmare
Has always been your biggest fear

Oh things are gettin' real crucial
Up the old wazoo
Yet you cry, why am I the victim?
When the culprit's y-o-u

[Bridge]
What did your mama tell you about lies
She said it wasn't polite to tell a white one
What did your daddy tell you about lies
He said one white lie turns into a black one

So, it's gettin' ready to blow
It's gettin' ready to show
Somebody shot off at the mouth and
We're gettin' ready to know

It's gettin' ready to drop
It's gettin' ready to shock
Somebody done turning the heater
An' a it's gettin' ready to pop

It's gettin' ready to seep
You're gettin' ready to freak
Somebody done picked up the talk box
And gettin' ready to speak

It's gettin' ready to jive
It's gettin' ready to gel
Somebody done gone let the lid off
And it's gettin' ready to smell

They're gettin' ready to deal
You're gettin' ready to ill
Somebody done just dropped the big dime
And they're gettin' ready to squeal

It's gettin' ready to turn
We're gettin' ready to learn
Somebody done fired up the brimstone
And you're gettin' ready to burn

It's gettin' ready to shake
You're gettin' ready to ache
Somebody done snitched to the news crew
And it's gettin' ready to break

You're gettin' ready to lie
They're gettin' ready to spy

Somebody' s been put on the hot seat
And you're gettin' ready to fry

We are with you in this Pats fam.

 

[MechDX]

The end begins. BOB and Mallett shall finish off the darkness that spawned them. The only way to beat evil is to have been forged by it.

 

[Tabris]

Only acceptable punishment would have been a vacated title.

 

[Gigglepoo]

no i truly don't. i think after his suspension is over, this will all be blown away and no one will care anymore.

i'm just sad we are still stuck with kap when tom was born 30 miles away from santa clara

I still believe in Kaep! He was great on the highest stage, that's better than some *cough* Peyton *cough* quarterbacks can say.

 

[Godslay]

The most impressive accomplishment about Manning is how he plays the game the right way, he knows he can't throw deep like he used too, but did he lower the air pressure to compensate for that nerve damage. No. Manning is all about the integrity of the game, Brady is all about lying and cheating.

Sums it up well.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Zero, Tomlin never tripped anyone. Lifelongs and their stories...

You're honestly splitting hairs there. It was pretty obvious that even if he didn't trip the guy, he obstructed his route on the field and never got punished for it. He deserved some kind of fine if he didn't get it.

 

[CitizenCope]

Those trade will guide us on our way to Glory. Tebow will take is the rest of the way. We don't need cheating when we have Him on our side!

As an agnostic I've decided my time as an Eagles fan is over because of this Tebow character. It was fun thanks. In that short period I was all in with the Eagles they had the same success they had over the previous 45 years. Good luck my level headed friend!

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Zero, Tomlin never tripped anyone. Lifelongs and their stories...

Also, that was all in good fun. Not malicious disregard for the integrity of the game like the Patriots.

 

[bchamba]

Flacco > Brady

 

[Godslay]

he is a choker though

thems the facts

His title is clean.

He could choke on a Giselle sized strap-on until he retired and his legacy over Brady is cemented with this verdict.

 

[JABEE]

JABEE isn't a human. He's a test AI that has been unfortunately stuck on a loop repeating the same thing for the past two years.

I am from the future. I knew this day would come!

 

[Spinluck]

Do these threads always end up with bitching?

Check your attitude at the door sir!

 

[cdyhybrid]

Flacco > Brady

One legit ring > zero, so yes - this checks out.

 

[phanphare]

His title is clean.

He could choke on a Giselle sized strap-on until he retired and his legacy over Brady is cemented with this verdict.

lol, not even close

 

[Alligatorjandro]

His title is clean.

He could choke on a Giselle sized strap-on until he retired and his legacy over Brady is cemented with this verdict.

thats your opinion

 

[nrvalleytime]

Flacco > Brady

Okay, you need to stop smoking whatever you're on. I'm all for good times, but I'm worried you're losing grip on reality.

 

[Tabris]

One legit ring > zero, so yes - this checks out.

Trent Dilfer better than Brady confirmed.

 

[Godslay]

lol, not even close

I'm sure Bonds and Armstrong would agree with you.

 

[JABEE]

Only acceptable punishment would have been a vacated title.

It Will Come. The Hearts and Souls of all NFL Fans have Vacated Those Tainted Titles Already!

Let Us Rejoice in This Day and Remember the Fallen Brothers Who Are Not Around To Rejoice in this Glorious Night!

#BLESSED

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Trent Dilfer better than Brady confirmed.

Oh look tabris is here.

 

[Beefy]

Check your attitude at the door sir!

Do I have to join in? I get some people are pissed, I get some people are just trying to piss off Pats fans. But some go a bit over the top.

 

[Tabris]

thats your opinion

Nope, facts. Non-cheaters > Cheaters. Manning GOAT. SUCK IT GATA.

 

[lupinko]

Well-orchestrated marketing for Brady's return in Game 5 against the Colts, the team he was caught cheating against.

SB win and last season's games should be vacated. Then we're talking.

Pretty much this.

 

[Gigglepoo]

Last I checked the punishment for a positive PED test is a player being suspended, not a team losing draft picks.

My point was that even if you believe "every team cheats", the Pats go above and beyond everyone else when it comes to breaking the rules.

"Above and beyond" means using slightly deflated footballs? I guess we'll just have to disagree.

 

[phanphare]

I'm sure Bonds and Armstrong would agree with you.

two of many, I'm sure

although I do like your asterisk assessment. means my panthers got hosed in the SB ;p

 

[JABEE]

As an agnostic I've decided my time as an Eagles fan is over because of this Tebow character. It was fun thanks. In that short period I was all in with the Eagles they had the same success they had over the previous 45 years. Good luck my level headed friend!

Cast away your allegiance to the Pats, and you will always be welcome before Him.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Trent Dilfer better than Brady confirmed.

This also checks out. Dilfer led one of the greatest teams of all time to a championship, and did it with class, dignity, and integrity.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

Pretty harsh punishment. Wanting worse for a slightly deflated football is laughable.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

You're honestly splitting hairs there. It was pretty obvious that even if he didn't trip the guy, he obstructed his route on the field and never got punished for it. He deserved some kind of fine if he didn't get it.

Lifelongs in a Patriot thread. Color me surprised.

 

[Tabris]

This also checks out. Dilfer led one of the greatest teams of all time to a championship, and did it with class, dignity, and integrity.

Pats fans don't know what that word means. Can you define it for them?

 

[CitizenCope]

Cast away your allegiance to the Pats, and you will always be welcome before Him.

But I like championships****.
Do the asterisks go before the period? I need to get used to this.

 

[Stinkles]

If Brady tries to sue the league for defamation, his phone records will be fair game. I don't see how he can do it without damaging discovery.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

If Brady tries to sue the league for defamation, his phone records will be fair game. I don't see how he can do it without damaging discovery.

Brady isn't going to sue.

Kraft, the billionaire is going to sue.

 

[Zigzz14]

I hate Tom Brady. I hate the Patriots. This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen. Once this gets in front of an arbitrator none of the penalties will be upheld. What a joke

 

[JABEE]

But I like championships****.
Do the asterisks go before the period? I need to get used to this.

They go everywhere, son!

 

[cdyhybrid]

If Brady tries to sue the league for defamation, his phone records will be fair game. I don't see how he can do it without damaging discovery.

He's not gonna sue.

Zolak is just a Boston sports radio talking head spouting off stupid shit to hype his show.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Only acceptable punishment would have been a vacated title.

And for good measure, move the franchise to Toronto.

 

[Plinko]

You can't punish them yet let the Super Bowl stand. It's all or nothing.

Exactly. They cheated in the game that allowed them to get to the Super Bowl.

 

[Beefy]

If Brady tries to sue the league for defamation, his phone records will be fair game. I don't see how he can do it without damaging discovery.

As I said early. It would be crazy if he was trying to cover up something else (personal).

 

[LyleLanley]

Brady isn't going to sue.

Kraft, the billionaire is going to sue.

If anyone is interested in this kind of stuff you should follow Michael McCann on Twitter @McCannSportsLaw he talks about what Bradys next steps are. There will be an appeal and then a potential defamation suit from Brady. I should note that he isn't a homer like Zolak either.

 

[Gigglepoo]

The only fanbase that wouldn't be pissed at this punishment would be Chicago. Anything to get rid of Cutler.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Lifelongs in a Patriot thread. Color me surprised.

A Steelers fan that poorly tries to obscure someone else's point instead of proving them wrong. Color me surprised.

Spoiler

In case it's not clear, I'm just screwing around.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Wait, do you really think Brady's legacy is in the toilet because of a slightly deflated football? I, um, disagree. Strongly.

Brady's legacy is in the toilet because he and the team he plays for have been caught cheating not once but twice, both in Super Bowl winning years.

You cannot mention Brady or his championships without mentioning both cheating scandals. That's a tainted legacy.

 

[Tabris]

Exactly. They cheated in the game that allowed them to get to the Super Bowl.

They've been deflating for quite a while. You've had an extremely abnormal fumble rate, and a pretty starsk Tom Brady turn around.

The reason they got caught is because D'Qwell Jackson decided to feel the ball after intercepting it.