LyleLanley
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Ted Wells is having a conference call right now. He doesn't like his independence and impartiality being questioned.
Tom Brady suspended for 4 games; Patriots lose first-round draft pick; fined $1 mil
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Ted Wells can get bent.
No, pretty sure it'd just a few fans who made it. Personally I'd say disregard it, especially since this isn't a damaging fine from a financial PoV and will likely get reduced.
VeryGooster
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I'm going to repeat this for the next page as it's important to get:
You can't just look at deflate-gate on it's own. You have to see the cheating culture that's so persuasive in that organization. Who knows what else they have cheated on at this point? There is no trust anymore.
You can't just look at deflate-gate on it's own. You have to see the cheating culture that's so persuasive in that organization. Who knows what else they have cheated on at this point? There is no trust anymore.
He's got it today, it's so great.
LyleLanley
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Ted Wells said he bills by hour and final tab "no question" will be "in millions of dollars."- @MikeReiss
I heard that live and nearly shit myself. I think he's hysterical and I'll miss him when he's gone.
So how do you trust the broncos who have been caught breaking the rules with the salary cap multiple times.
I read that is 6 million dollars.
forgeforsaken
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Interesting, the denied "second" interview of McNally would have actually been the 5th interview, just the second done by Wells personally.
You didn't read what Godslay posted. Their cheating was financial for the organization to build the stadium and had 0 effect on the on-field product. Can you dispute this?
And once again, I'll vacate those 2 Broncos Superbowls if the Pats vacate their 4.
MetalFearSolid
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Ted Wells said he told Tom Brady that he wouldnt even hold his phone. Would just take printouts. Brady would not provide the information
The Albatross
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Wells said that Brady was "totally cooperative"
Also mentioned he's (Wells) paid by the hour and the final bill will be "in the millions" haha... Not a bad gig.
Also mentioned he's (Wells) paid by the hour and the final bill will be "in the millions" haha... Not a bad gig.
entremet
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He is a lawyer by trade, so that's expected. Hourly billing at least.
Didn't the report say something like earlier that season Brady wasn't happy with the inflation levels of the balls (too inflated) so he looked up the rule, and made sure the refs didn't over pump the balls. Said he wanted it low as possible or something.
The secret's in the frosting.. but i'll never tell!
Tired from my morning work out. If only my trainer deflated the weights.
teruterubozu
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Yoga balls?
In my opinion the fact the Pats stopped cooperating* after the revelation of the 'deflator' text, and McNally removing the footballs from the locker-room without permission, are the most damming evidence in the report.
*The Pats didn't deny an interview, only that it had to be done according to their rules, i.e. questions provided ahead of time, not in person etc. Wells, obviously, didn't accept their terms. You have to wonder why they all of a sudden became tight-lipped.
It's so weird that no one on the defense or any referees noticed the Patriots were playing with a nearly flat football.
Makes it easier to grip a football. Each team has their own set of balls.
Passing and running have notable advantages (via grip) if you inflate them to an amount that is preferred buy a player, they can take advantage of it over other players.
The Albatross
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Yeah, that was the text convo in October. Refs inflated the balls to something like 15 PSI before that game (according to texts). Brady was pissed (according to texts), so (more probable than not) he told them to put them at the lowest PSI they can go and carry the NFL rule book with them when they give them to the refs if the refs try to inflate them again. The text conversation that everybody's posted, the one about beachballs, was remarking how the refs -- according to the report -- put the balls at something like 15PSI before that game in October, apparently as a mistake, which prompted Brady to ask these equipment guys to keep them at 12.5.
Ted Wells Report said:
Statistically for Tom Brady it has does nothing. His numbers are identical over the last 7 or so seasons are identical at home and on the road:
Deflect, deflect, DEFLECT!
Ironically enough it wasn't always this way. Few years ago Brady and Manning petitioned the league to allow each team to have their own game balls. League used to control all the balls used during a game
Fixed!
The Albatross
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Yep, this exactly. League wanted to be more favorable to passers to make it more exciting, grants QBs the right to work them balls before games. Hence why you have that statement about Aaron Rodgers inflating his balls to 15 PSI, Brady down to 12.5 PSI, etc.
It's interesting that for the biggest penalty in NFL history, the league would have cared so little about this prior to the first officially investigated offense. You'd think something that gets the biggest penalty in NFL history would be like a very well known rule that everybody is clear on that the league takes exacting effort to prevent, or takes some sort of record of each game to ensure fair play.
The Albatross
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FO-totality
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Wow, no wonder the Jags suck. Y'all gotta cheat more, Alligatorjandro.
MetalFearSolid
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Check out @octonion on twitter for a statistical breakdown of the deflategate measurements (along with I believe an R script).
Note: This will confuse most of the people here if earlier posts are any indication. We managed to watch person unable to compute percentages in an earlier post.
Editor Note; R file for the win! http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https...l/blob/master/deflategate/report_patched.html
Note: This will confuse most of the people here if earlier posts are any indication. We managed to watch person unable to compute percentages in an earlier post.
Editor Note; R file for the win! http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https...l/blob/master/deflategate/report_patched.html
Do you mind providing a summary?
Are we really linking a site that a bunch of bitchmade no life Pats fans made on their free time? Come on!
Sucking for Luck is cheating lol? How in the fuck does that make any sense?
Short version;
a) the gauges are not statistically significant, even if you assume they're switched and re-do the measurements switching them around to provide maximum benefit to the belief that the Patriots did not cheat
b) Mathematically, the Pats are highly likely (greater than 95%) to have cheated
c) Even if you remove the gauges completely, the difference in the deltas is what dooms the patriots (the patriots balls all deflated way more than the colts balls while in similar conditions, even if you switch the gauges in the best way possible for the patriots).
I'm curious what prompted another team to request an investigation into the Patriots deflated footballs. If the psi was truly low, I could understand, but where the balls checked were no more than .4 psi below the required psi, how did the opponent figure it out?
I'm guessing that it had to be a previous incident that occurred where the balls were significantly below the required psi. Both the Ravens and the Colts thought something was up, but the balls for the Colts game were hardly deflated.
I'm guessing that it had to be a previous incident that occurred where the balls were significantly below the required psi. Both the Ravens and the Colts thought something was up, but the balls for the Colts game were hardly deflated.
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