The Witcher 3 | Review Thread

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Parkin as well. Easily one of the best writers in games.

The world is full of history, nuance and – glory hallelujah! – plausible writing. As you tour Temeria (one part Scottish highlands, one part Idaho plains), following your primary quest objectives, you happen upon scores of alluring offshoot stories.

The people you meet and the stories they tell feel authentic and meaningful, in a way that so few video games in this style truly manage.

Seriously sounding like one of the most compelling open worlds ever created. The fact they managed to carry the interwoven threads and richness of previous more linear witcher games into a gigantic open world is astonishing really.
 
I can just imagine all the new Witcher fans conditioned by the black and white morals and quests of most RPGs now having to cope with every decision they make causing the world to turn progressively shitter.

YOU CANT WIN
 
If they have already fixed the frame rate issues on the PS4 version why cant they role out patches for at least review copies? Im having a really hard time understanding all the positive reviews for the game even with all the flaws ive seen. Are they assuming these issues will be addressed or are they excusing the problems because everything else about the game is so good? I dont want to wait 6 months for the re-balancing patch like Witcher 2 had and I have to get this on PS4 since my PC isnt up to par.
 
If they have already fixed the frame rate issues on the PS4 version why cant they role out patches for at least review copies? Im having a really hard time understanding all the positive reviews for the game even with all the flaws ive seen. Are they assuming these issues will be addressed or are they excusing the problems because everything else about the game is so good? I dont want to wait 6 months for the re-balancing patch like Witcher 2 had and I have to get this on PS4 since my PC isnt up to par.

Because the game is good enough that a few little framerate hiccups is not enough to ruin 100-200+ hours of pure gaming bliss?

Also, why release the day one patch now, when the reviews are already out? Better to QC the patch for an extra couple days, and release it a day or so before the game.

The PS4 experience is obviously fantastic already, and it will only get better with patches and free DLC.

We are in for a treat. Regardless of platform.
 
negatives points in the 4Players review:

- no reaction to theft
- partly stupid human enemy AI
- Ciri parts are linear and too easy
- no interlaced dialogues, Scenes seem forced
- menue, no 3D object, just boring lists
- too small text (no option in menue)
- no Item sorting
- some framerate drops, pop ups and bugs

The positve side is huge though !
 
negatives points in the 4Players review:

- no reaction to theft
- some framerate drops, pop ups and bugs

Any reason we are only posting negatives now?

Also. There is a reaction to theft, we have seen it. But it seems it is generally only around guards. Which is a step beyond TW2.

FPS drops have been patched, and I am sure numerous bugs have been squashed as well.

Pop up is inevitable.
 
Any reason we are only posting negatives now?

Also. There is a reaction to theft, we have seen it. But it seems it is generally only around guards. Which is a step beyond TW2.

FPS drops have been patched, and I am sure numerous bugs have been squashed as well.

Pop up is inevitable.

You can't possibly know that.

And I also mentioned that the list of positives is huge.

Edit: here are the positives, ran through google translator:

- wonderful setting
- excellent open Quest Design
- barely Get & Put, hardly stupid Sammelei
- Dozens of types of events and many surprises
- own actions show direct and indirect consequences
- scary living world, fantastic city
- exploring many stimuli, investigative research
- class history incl. change of perspective
- Ciri playable character
- no black and white, many moral grays
- natural, very well-written dialogues
- cinematic Director meets also the quiet tones
- tactical real-time combat system incl. magic
- Fight from horseback riders and against
- martial fight choreography
- vivid facial expressions and gestures, class animations
- very good creature Fashion Design
- some spectacular Monster incl. Arena flair
- Character development in five areas
- Day / night cycles, vibrant fauna
- All advertisements & aids switched off individually
- Horse riding, climbing, scuba diving, sailing, boxing
- Guards react to they drawn swords
- Weapons & clothes wear out, load relevant
- great TCG "Gwint"
- useful bestiary and Glossary
- unbelievably many ingredients and items
- Making potions, bombs, armor, clothing
- explicit affair, even in brothels
- Geralt's beard grows - isses to believe?
- four levels of difficulty
- excellent German speakers and texts
- Simulate decisions Witcher 2
- Class Soundtrack
- Change Language to English
- automatic and manual save
- three possible endings
- Running Time: 80 to 100 hours plus X
 
You can't possibly know that.

I mean, we do know that, as CDPR has stated several times that not only have the PS4 framerate drops already been addressed, but performance has been increased across all 3 platforms.

Also, a day one patch that did not fix any bugs wouldn't really be a patch...

Fair enough, just seems odd to post only the positive or negative bullet points of any given review, rather than both.

Edit: Nice Positives list!
 
I can just imagine all the new Witcher fans conditioned by the black and white morals and quests of most RPGs now having to cope with every decision they make causing the world to turn progressively shitter.

YOU CANT WIN


GUYS, WHERE ARE THE PARAGON DIALOG OPTIONS?!
 
I mean, we do know that, as CDPR has stated several times that not only have the PS4 framerate drops already been addressed, but performance has been increased across all 3 platforms.

Also, a day one patch that did not fix any bugs wouldn't really be a patch...

Fair enough, just seems odd to post only the positive or negative bullet points of any given review, rather than both.

Edit: Nice Positives list!

Of course the patch will fix bugs, but the reviewer had bugs and framerate drops so it's his right to adress those.
 
If they have already fixed the frame rate issues on the PS4 version why cant they role out patches for at least review copies? Im having a really hard time understanding all the positive reviews for the game even with all the flaws ive seen. Are they assuming these issues will be addressed or are they excusing the problems because everything else about the game is so good? I dont want to wait 6 months for the re-balancing patch like Witcher 2 had and I have to get this on PS4 since my PC isnt up to par.

Check out the reviews for the Master Chief Collection, it was a shit show but managed to get decent scores. This is a game that MONTHS later is still being patched regularly.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/halo-the-master-chief-collection Average of 85

Game reviews are largely shit and the people crowing about game of the year without having played 2 secs of the actual game are hilarious to me.
 
I can just imagine all the new Witcher fans conditioned by the black and white morals and quests of most RPGs now having to cope with every decision they make causing the world to turn progressively shitter.

YOU CANT WIN

Once you become a fan, you can't go back. I remember back when I played TW1 blind without knowing much about it or the world. When the game finally clicked, it pretty much ruined the whole basic Bioware set-up for me single-handedly.
 
Of course a patch will bugs, but the reviewer had bugs and framerate drops so it's his right to adress those.

Oh for certain, I just wanted to address that for people that may not know that there is consequences for thieving and the framerate has been patched.

Absolutely correct that he noted it in the review. Wouldn't say otherwise.
 
Are there a variety of different areas to explore in the game? All the footage I've seen all looks pretty same-y to me.. like the same type of forest/plains area. I know there's like a marsh place, too, but anything else? Any snow-y areas or does the time of year change in the game at any point? (if we know)
 
I can just imagine all the new Witcher fans conditioned by the black and white morals and quests of most RPGs now having to cope with every decision they make causing the world to turn progressively shitter.

YOU CANT WIN

But neutrality... neutrality is always contemptible!
 
Are there a variety of different areas to explore in the game? All the footage I've seen all looks pretty same-y to me.. like the same type of forest/plains area. I know there's like a marsh place, too, but anything else? Any snow-y areas or does the time of year change in the game at any point? (if we know)

There is next to no footage from Skellige Islands that are very snowy and cold islands, they are one of the games large areas to explore. There is no passage of seasons like summer to autumn.
 
FPS drops have been patched, and I am sure numerous bugs have been squashed as well.

We have no evidence of this. All we have is a tweet saying, sure we "improved performance". What else are they going to say?

I just heard Jeff from Giant bomb say the game crashed twice in three hours of playing (with the day one patch installed). Let's just wait until the game is released.

PC code is supposed to be going out today, right? Hopefully we'll get info on that version soon.
 
I trust Kevin VanOrd on this one. All his RPG reviews have overlapped really well with my taste.

Just not sure whether to get this right away or give them some more time for further bug fixing. I also wonder whether there will be a Witcher 3 EE next year.
 
I can just imagine all the new Witcher fans conditioned by the black and white morals and quests of most RPGs now having to cope with every decision they make causing the world to turn progressively shitter.

YOU CANT WIN

Yep. Allow a guy to get beat up, people dislike you, step in and help out with out force gang probably want revenge. Step in and help and kill the gang, people fear you.
 
I can just imagine all the new Witcher fans conditioned by the black and white morals and quests of most RPGs now having to cope with every decision they make causing the world to turn progressively shitter.

YOU CANT WIN

That's what worries me though, as I hope it doesn't get silly where the choices I make spiral so unexpectedly that I get to the point where I don't even care anymore. I save an entire family from their burning house, but it turns out that their survival unleashes a demon upon the world, as they have worshipped it for years. I retrieve a lost sword for an old fisherman, which he then uses to slaughter all the children in the village.

Those are extreme examples, but you get what I mean. Please tell me there is genuine good that I can do, and it is 'good'!?
 
We have no evidence of this. All we have is a tweet saying, sure we "improved performance". What else are they going to say?

I just heard Jeff from Giant bomb say the game crashed twice in three hours of playing (with the day one patch installed). Let's just wait until the game is released.

PC code is supposed to be going out today, right? Hopefully we'll get info on that version soon.

I count the devs stating what they did as evidence, but to each his own. Also, not just that tweet, the preorder press release went out of its way to mention that they improved performance as well.


Also, it was already confirmed that the day one patch has not been applied to Jeffs copy.

And yes, I believe PC review copies/codes go out today. Hopefully we will see some nice 4K shots from some sites tomorrow.
 
That's what worries me though, as I hope it doesn't get silly where the choices I make spiral so unexpectedly that I get to the point where I don't even care anymore. I save an entire family from their burning house, but it turns out that their survival unleashes a demon upon the world, as they have worshipped it for years. I retrieve a lost sword for an old fisherman, which he then uses to slaughter all the children in the village.

Those are extreme examples, but you get what I mean. Please tell me there is genuine good that I can do, and it is 'good'!?

I would say that some choices are better, more good, than others, but you are just coloring with different shades of gray. There is very few choices that are clear cuts between good and bad as every decision causes ripples to short and long term of events. At least that is how I see it after playing TW1 and TW2.
 
Pop in was a huge issue in The Witcher 2 on PC with max settings. I can't believe they didn't address this. Such bs.

Not it wasn't. And this is on another level even. With NPC's popping in right next to Geralt from thin air. Nothing like that ever happenend in Witcher 2 PC.

This is almost like something is messing up their aggressive culling algorithm. Whether it's just too demanding for the console's CPU, or not optimized enough, or buggy, somehting is up with it.

It doesn't look to me like an LOD issue at all atleast, it seems like the camera, pans and suddenly new NPC's pop up right next to you.
 
Reading the reviews, I think the biggest divisive sticking points for people are going to be the combat (Some developers are fine, others not so fine, none seem to *love* it) and the inventory management (I've only really heard negative points).

Thankfullly, these don't matter as much to me, as long as the writing is solid and quest design is compelling due to said writing. This seems to be the most prevalent positive note throughout the reviews I've read.

People not familiar with the series, looking for a Skyrim-type experience, might be expecting a more "open" game, where you're more free to pursue different jobs and have wildly varying build types. Geralt is a Witcher, and he does Witcher work. You can tailor your combat slightly, but it's not as if you can go the whole game without using a sword. Personally, I'm into this, but other people may not like the linearity.
 
Those are extreme examples, but you get what I mean. Please tell me there is genuine good that I can do, and it is 'good'!?

If the previous games are anything to go by then yes, there's "good", and it's not always so extreme. TW2 doesn't go out of its way to make a mockery of your choices and taint them with failure, so much as present you with the grim reality that you can't fix everything, and that the choices you make still hold weight even if you're confident in your decision. It makes for more organic, believable scenarios where you absolutely can play what you believe is morally "good", but you're probably not going to be able to please everyone because that's just life.
 
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