Halo 5 Guardians: #huntthetruth

I can see it now..

[scene: ONI underground deep sekrit laboratory]

ONI Tech, Level 3: "Guys, we need to find a way to frame the Chief, he's acting too high and mighty these days, he's bro's with the Arbiter dude, and Lord Hood still wears 117 pajamas.. how do we bring him down?"

ONI Tech, Level 1:
"Hey! I just found some green spray paint.. are you thinking what *I'm* thinking?!"

[scene: Two ONI techs in green painted armor flying through the air Ferris Bueller-style in a Warthog headed towards the Embassy]
Don't ask how, but I found this security pic of ONI Tech, Level 3 during the embassy assault:

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Didn't Hood order him to take a break? Unless ignoring that doesn't count.

Well he said "Well I'm ordering Blue Team to take some R&R" with a smile.

Then the ONI quote "Hood's freaking out. He just heard 117 reassigned himself" "Heh. Hood's always the last to know these days. Poor old man."

So, to me, that doesn't sound like AWOL, just refusing to accept a R&R break. Sign of a workaholic or whatever sure, but not yet treason or anything.


Don't ask how, but I found this security pic of ONI Tech, Level 3 during the embassy assault:

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Awesome!!
 
IIRC, ONI
was fueling a Sanghelli holy war between Arbiter and the other guys to prevent peace from settling. This attack actually seems like their M.O.

But ONI has nothing to gain by smearing John's reputation. Hell, they're the ones who hired Ben to help make him look better.
 
But ONI has nothing to gain by smearing John's reputation. Hell, they're the ones who hired Ben to help make him look better.

Who's "they?"

My pet theory:
this whole thing is a setup by ONI. They hired Ben to do a standard propaganda piece, then got deliberately sloppy so he'd "see through" them. People are more likely to trust information they're given if they think they're not supposed to know it. M'Shak is actually an ONI AI, and FERO is Admiral Serin Osman, director of ONI. The reasons for this plan is that Chief is apparently starting to go off the rails a little, going on missions despite not having any orders to do so. As such, he's a liabililty. Finally, Serin is dealing with some internal challenges from long-time members of ONI. "Exposing" the S-II program gives Giraud an audience, and makes him (and them) more likely to believe that the Chief has really snapped, which allows Osman to dispose of him, and the subsequent investigation of ONI gives her an excuse to clean house.

Killing the peace talks is just gravy.
 
Maybe it is the Chief. The peace talk is just some colony making deals with Jul'Madam to attack the earth. And only chief knows the truth.
Then someone, possibly ONI, takes advantage of this to overthrow the Chief.

Anyway, #TeamChief

Edit: I forgot to mention that I can't wait for the
'meeting'
to start, and during the
meeting and live feed that Ben gets, Chief appears and kills everyone
;)
 
They stop peace talks, John doesn't matter. Hell, the propaganda piece could have been a red herring from the start.

Still, why frame John? Why paint humanity's war hero as a traitor when they could've used any random Spartan IV mook to stop the peace talks?

Doesn't make sense.
 
Still, why frame John? Why paint humanity's war hero as a traitor when they could've used any random Spartan IV mook to stop the peace talks?

Doesn't make sense.

Because if John's starting to break down which appeared to be the case after Escalation, they remove a liability in both John and the Peace Talks.
 
Except nothing thus far has suggested he's beginning to break down.
There's a whole conversation in Escalation talking about how they predicted John was going to refuse to cool down, and worry about how he was going down a warpath until he broke.

edit, even his psych evaluation saw his refusal to step back coming.
 

Also:

ONI2:Chief? Exactly what the psych eval said he'd do. Refusing to stop/ Taking one mission after another.
ONI1: Something's gotta give right?

edit: I think Chief will be exonerated, but ONI has a good reason to think he's breaking even if he really isn't. Sending him to kill peace talks to sabotage him would be a strong two birds with one stone move.
 
Kelly is his closest friend and I'm not certain how much they really share.

Being back around people he can actually talk to, he may be starting to deal with issues he's never had to face before until now.

I believe the stuff about him starting to go off the rails as it were, but there must be sound reasoning behind the recent 'attack'. Perhaps it was Locke or someone else dressed as Chief to spin it that way, or the actual event itself was fabricated by ONI in some way.

I think we can all agree that both of them are good soldiers, loyal to humanity, and we definitely aren't even close to the bottom of this yet. As has been suggested already, Locke is likely being manipulated as much as, if not more than the Chief.
 
There's a whole conversation in Escalation talking about how they predicted John was going to refuse to cool down, and worry about how he was going down a warpath until he broke.

edit, even his psych evaluation saw his refusal to step back coming.

Except that's not breaking down.
 
Except that's not breaking down.

Except nothing thus far has suggested he's beginning to break down.

tee hee

Read your own posts if you're going to be a part of a debate/argument. ONI is quite literally suggesting he's starting to crack which is why I said they'd have cause to take him out along with the peace talks.

Being back around people he can actually talk to, he may be starting to deal with issues he's never had to face before until now.

I believe the stuff about him starting to go off the rails as it were, but there must be sound reasoning behind the recent 'attack'. Perhaps it was Locke or someone else dressed as Chief to spin it that way, or the actual event itself was fabricated by ONI in some way.

I think we can all agree that both of them are good soldiers, loyal to humanity, and we definitely aren't even close to the bottom of this yet. As has been suggested already, Locke is likely being manipulated as much as, if not more than the Chief.

I think ONI set John up.
 
tee hee

Read your own posts if you're going to be a part of a debate/argument. ONI is quite literally suggesting he's starting to crack which is why I said they'd have cause to take him out along with the peace talks.



I think ONI set John up.

Except they have no reason to believe he's breaking down. Taking one mission after another is not a sign of breaking down or beginning to crack so to speak. Not even close enough to paint the war hero who saved the human race multiple times as a traitor who murdered 19 people plus the ambassador.
 
Except they have no reason to believe he's breaking down. Taking one mission after another is not a sign of breaking down.

Keep on digging huh?

ONI's psychological evaluation predicted that he'd refuse to stop working,the people at ONI themselves state that they take this as a sign of a future snap.

Not even close enough to paint the war hero who saved the human race multiple times as a traitor who murdered 19 people plus the ambassador.

You think ONI could give less of a shit? He's a soldier, if he's going down a bad path according to a psych eval, they have a reason to want to put him down.
 
Keep on digging huh?

ONI's psychological evaluation predicted that he'd refuse to stop working,the people at ONI themselves state that they take this as a sign of a future snap.

Sorry, but I'm still not buying it. That's hardly enough of a reason to make him out to be a murderous traitor.
 
Sorry, but I'm still not buying it. That's hardly enough of a reason to make him out to be a murderous traitor.

You don't need to believe it. ONI says outright they're afraid of him snapping. That fear unto itself is reason for them to try given their willingness to sabotage peace with the Sanghelli for so long, ONI isn't really risk friendly- if they can take out a potential future threat they will even if Chief is the good guy that I think he is.
 
You don't need to believe it. ONI says outright they're afraid of him snapping.

That's nice. It doesn't, however, come close to a good enough reason to make him out to be a murderous traitor and makes little sense to do so.

Like I said, I'm not buying it regardless of how much you repeatedly utter it.
 
That's nice. It doesn't, however, come close to a good enough reason to make him out to be a murderous traitor and makes little sense to do so.

Like I said, I'm not buying it regardless of how much you repeatedly utter it.

And like I said, what you buy isn't as important to what ONI itself has put out there. They've pointed out Chief is going down a path to breaking, they've killed and conscripted children in the outer colonies because they viewed their lives as being cheaper than inner colonies, they've prolonged an alien war because they didn't trust Thel or his friendship with John.

ONI doesn't care about the lives of SPARTANS, they certainly don't care about heroics.
 
I can't believe everyone is thinking that the Master Chief did it. Everyone knows that you can just walk in to a dollar store and buy a set of MJOLNIR.

Seriously though, the Chief wouldn't do something like that unless he had a good reason. He grew up being told that he "was the protector of Earth and all her colonies", and I'm sure he's still following that idea.
 
I can't believe everyone is thinking that the Master Chief did it. Everyone knows that you can just walk in to a dollar store and buy a set of MJOLNIR.

Seriously though, the Chief wouldn't do something like that unless he had a good reason. He grew up being told that he "was the protector of Earth and all her colonies", and I'm sure he's still following that idea.

Right? How can ANYONE believe that Chief would do anything like this? ahahhaha funny.
 
Damn! That episode of hunt the truth was awesome. Chief must have a reason to do that. I refuse to believe that he is a traitor and did that for the greater good.
 
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