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[Skyzard]

I wonder how long adding grass to a world would take?

Can you just go, okay flip the shit grass to the nicer grass?

Or would they have to lay it out twice or something.


Maybe not because the shit grass seems like a bigger patch or clump of it so the layout would be a bit different if it were more individual parts to it.

 

[Qassim]

This narrative that PC was held back by PS4 is laughable. The PC held the PC back.

Just look at the steam hardware survey. The April 2015 numbers show that ~61% of the master race play at less than (not at) 1080p and ~80% have about 2GB or less of VRAM. Most have a dual core setup and high end GPU's aren't that prolific either.

If CDPR wants to sell it's game to an actual market, that's who they'll target. The PS4 is irrelevant to this as it sits somewhere in the middle of all those specs.

As others have said, PC games have scalable settings.. they're not consoles. Having settings which scale to a high level doesn't mean you have to exclude those on lower end systems or even address a different market.

You're addressing the exact same market, just your game is more scalable. Also, is the "master race" nonsense necessary?

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

I think the problem with watch dogs and now Witcher is that the development started way before the devs knew the specs of the current gen consoles. They had to make assumptions on what it could be, so before they do nothing, they targeted something. Then the consoles were released and they had to find a way to get it running the best way possible.

I think this will stop when we get a game were the development started in 2013/2014. Then we will get what we will see in first trailers.

Just my 2 cents...

I would like to be that optimistic, but it's happened even when the devs have a clear idea of the hardware that will be available. As I mentioned earlier, initial Crysis reveal presented a much higher fidelity environment in terms of lighting, foliage, ground textures. Not like anybody could actually play at the actual max settings when it came out anyway, but that's beside the point.

On that note, Uncharted 4 ;_;

 

[StevieP]

I think the problem with watch dogs and now Witcher is that the development started way before the devs knew the specs of the current gen consoles. They had to make assumptions on what it could be, so before they do nothing, they targeted something. Then the consoles were released and they had to find a way to get it running the best way possible.

I think this will stop when we get a game were the development started in 2013/2014. Then we will get what we will see in first trailers.

Just my 2 cents...

The specs of the consoles were known by developers as of like late 2011. Only thing that changed was more memory and a weaker cpu with more cores.

 

[buffelo]

Ah geez, they put pre-downgrade shots in the OT thread.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Ah geez, they put pre-downgrade shots in the OT thread.

lol, suppose I'll migrate there for the fun.

 

[HMD]

I would like to be that optimistic, but it's happened even when the devs have a clear idea of the hardware that will be available. As I mentioned earlier, initial Crysis reveal presented a much higher fidelity environment in terms of lighting, foliage, ground textures. Not like anybody could actually play at the actual max settings when it came out anyway, but that's beside the point.

On that note, Uncharted 4 ;_;

I think we're safe with Uncharted, it honestly doesn't look that impressive, especially not after playing The Order.

And to go back on topic, did anyone from CD Projekt unofficially comment on this whole mess? I skimmed through the thread but I didn't find anything.

 

[-tetsuo-]

If I could choose only one post to sum up this thread... this would be it. A GAF contributor posts a stunningly beautiful shot of his actual gameplay on the retail release of this massive, open world game (on the PS4 no less)... and it's ignored. Why? Because it doesn't suit the narrative.

I'd call it sad, but it's far worse than that... it's GAF.

There is no narrative. The game clearly and obviously looks worse than when it was first shown, like I said way back on like page 3.. This isn't "Does The Witcher 3 look good?", it is "The Witcher 3 has been downgraded."

 

[Szeth]

This narrative that PC was held back by PS4 is laughable. The PC held the PC back.

Just look at the steam hardware survey. The April 2015 numbers show that ~61% of the master race play at less than (not at) 1080p and ~80% have about 2GB or less of VRAM. Most have a dual core setup and high end GPU's aren't that prolific either.

If CDPR wants to sell it's game to an actual market, that's who they'll target. The PS4 is irrelevant to this as it sits somewhere in the middle of all those specs.

I don't think you understand how PC games work

 

[Skyzard]

There is no narrative. The game clearly and obviously looks worse than when it was first shown, like I said way back on like page 3.. This isn't "Does The Witcher 3 look good?", it is "The Witcher 3 has been downgraded."

Might have something to do with the thread title.

 

[vpance]

Ass Unity even at 900p30 is far more impressive than this game. Not surprising, since it doesn't even crack 2GB VRAM usage at 1080p. This game is in no way a benchmark of true console ability, and real next gen OW games like GTA6 or future Ubi titles will show how it's supposed to be done.

I'd say this game is far more telling of CDPR's ability to juggle simultaneous multiplat development than anything else - as in serviceable, at best. I'll make no comments about the egregious PR tactics that would make Ubi blush.

 

[-tetsuo-]

This narrative that PC was held back by PS4 is laughable. The PC held the PC back.

Just look at the steam hardware survey. The April 2015 numbers show that ~61% of the master race play at less than (not at) 1080p and ~80% have about 2GB or less of VRAM. Most have a dual core setup and high end GPU's aren't that prolific either.

If CDPR wants to sell it's game to an actual market, that's who they'll target. The PS4 is irrelevant to this as it sits somewhere in the middle of all those specs.

Is this sarcasm?

 

[Corpekata]

This narrative that PC was held back by PS4 is laughable. The PC held the PC back.

Just look at the steam hardware survey. The April 2015 numbers show that ~61% of the master race play at less than (not at) 1080p and ~80% have about 2GB or less of VRAM. Most have a dual core setup and high end GPU's aren't that prolific either.

If CDPR wants to sell it's game to an actual market, that's who they'll target. The PS4 is irrelevant to this as it sits somewhere in the middle of all those specs.

This argument is nonsense. It's not going to run on the people's computers you're saying are the target audience. The minimum required CPU for Witcher 3 is a quad core, so the fact that a lot of Steam's audience has dual cores clearly shows they aren't going for this mass of people.

Only a few devs target the lowest specs like Blizzard and Valve.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

I think we're safe with Uncharted, it honestly doesn't look that impressive, especially not after playing The Order.

And to go back on topic, did anyone from CD Projekt unofficially comment on this whole mess? I skimmed through the thread but I didn't find anything.

That's the thing though, ND dangled that stunner of a teaser, and then surprise surprise, actual gameplay much less impressive. Damn practice is everywhere.

 

[artsi]

And to go back on topic, did anyone from CD Projekt unofficially comment on this whole mess? I skimmed through the thread but I didn't find anything.

No not unofficially.

Officially they're just repeating that bullshit the PR department wrote for them, in case someone asks about the downgrade.
If we ever hear the truth it will be anonymously from someone who wants to damage the company, because of obvious reasons.

 

[Chaos17]

Transparent? They flat out said PC would not be held back by consoles and that there would be no downgrade. They lied.


Ubisoft was brutalized for Watch Dogs, let's at least call it like it is.

So this whole argument is about vengeance ?

 

[kencey]

That PC vs Ps4 comparison video made me sad.

 

[Fasty]

I think the PS4 version looks incredible (aside from some dodgy framerate 5 hours in). took this earlier:

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

 

[Skyzard]

So this whole argument is about vengeance ?

Is that the only post you read? Not that it even implies that.

The whole argument is about the downgrade, but people seem way more soft on CDPR.

 

[Dictator93]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

This is starting to get rather ridiculous. There is no way TW3 looks like a lategen ps3 game. Everything about it is better.

Yes it was downgraded on PC, but saying it was a ps3 game? wtf

 

[NecromorphTX]

i only hope the game still have this beautiful soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZhiPyqZC5A

 

[viveks86]

i only hope the game still have this beautiful soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZhiPyqZC5A

Yep. Going by the total number of minutes, there is actually more than that.

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

So adorable

 

[Skyzard]

I can't really blame him for feeling like that after Dragon Age Inquisition, maybe even GTA V on PS3 too.

 

[Virdix]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

I'm out, migrating to the OT.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

So this whole argument is about vengeance ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKkRDMil0bw

Irony being this guy is the one calling the shots.

 

[CGwizz]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

Its getting sad to see comments like these...

 

[woen]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

RDR still looks stunning but no. It was sub-720p on PS3 with lots of aliasing and very few foliage or wind-rain effects. It's wasn't big and the lighting was great but not near as good as what TW3 can achieve.

 

[Mifec]

i only hope the game still have this beautiful soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZhiPyqZC5A

The soundtrack is 1h and 20mins long. Has 35 songs on it

 

[Asgaro]

i only hope the game still have this beautiful soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZhiPyqZC5A

Considering the game is so small compared to today's standards (< 50 GB), I'm pretty sure they downgraded the audio as well...
The bitrate went from 256 kpbs to 32 kbps.

Spoiler

jk. I hope.

 

[UnrealEck]

I think the problem with watch dogs and now Witcher is that the development started way before the devs knew the specs of the current gen consoles. They had to make assumptions on what it could be, so before they do nothing, they targeted something. Then the consoles were released and they had to find a way to get it running the best way possible.

I think this will stop when we get a game were the development started in 2013/2014. Then we will get what we will see in first trailers.

Just my 2 cents...

I posted a link to an article earlier in this thread. The article has a source that's apparently someone who works at CD Projekt and they said the same thing. They didn't know the hardware of the consoles and when they did, they eventually had to make changes.

 

[NecromorphTX]

The soundtrack is 1h and 20mins long. Has 35 songs on it

Really? i'll search it.

 

[Kurt Russell]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

I wish I'd played that Red Dead Redemption, seems to be quite different from the one I played.

 

[PsihoPerihelion]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

What the hell is wrong with you? Here's two late gen PS3 open-world games for you to compare:

Really? i'll search it.

There you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om-Fomvfri4

 

[Skyzard]

Following the reactions to the opinion about this resembling late gen PS3, some next-gen open world fantasy game graphics:
http://a.uguu.se/wqwuzn.webm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKkRDMil0bw

Irony being this guy is the one calling the shots.

Implying I work for or that I'm a Ubisoft fanboy? You never know I guess, but no.

 

[NecromorphTX]

There you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om-Fomvfri4

thanks!

 

[Mifec]

Really? i'll search it.

Yeah if you got the game on GoG you could download it on the day preload started.

 

[AmyS]

Already posted yesterday, but this was a pretty good recap:

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt betrayed by ambition
A retrospective look at The Witcher 3 from 2013 to 2015

 

[Violater]

Personally I don't think I can get over how horrendous the vegetation look.
Especially when there is so much of it and the wind blowing it serves as a constant reminder.

 

[NecromorphTX]

Yeah if you got the game on GoG you could download it on the day preload started.

I'll buy it in PS4, but the physical ver. has the soundtrack too.


CD Projekt RED

 

[scitek]

This is by no means ugly, but (resolution aside) it still looks like a late-gen PS3 game. Red Dead Redemption looked at least this good for example. The trailers and stuff actually looked next-gen.

You don't mean Red Dead Redemption on PS3, do you? Because that game looked like shit.

 

[Fasty]

What the hell is wrong with you? Here's two late gen PS3 open-world games for you to compare:

I have no idea what games you just picked, but it's pretty obvious you chose the worst examples you can find when even Skyrim looks better

 

[Cipherr]

These always make me laugh.

Love these.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Following the reactions to the opinion about this resembling late gen PS3, some next-gen open world fantasy game graphics:
http://a.uguu.se/wqwuzn.webm



Implying I work for or that I'm a Ubisoft fanboy? You never know I guess, but no.

Where did you get Ubi from? Just the general dramatic outrage reminded me of that dude's speech, or at least the beginning part. No hard feelings just goofing around

 

[King_Moc]

I have no idea what games you just picked, but it's pretty obvious you chose the worst examples you can find when even Skyrim looks better

...are you suggesting that PS3 Skyrim looks better than Witcher 3?

 

[rashbeep]

The fact that people actually think the game looked better (and not just in the sense that they preferred that look) in 2013 than the 35 minute gameplay and SOD trailers are a good sign I can't take any of them seriously.

 

[PFD]

These always make me laugh.

Even Hitler is pissed off about the downgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6KibmknZU

 

[Fasty]

...are you suggesting that PS3 Skyrim looks better than Witcher 3?

Nope. I implied that Skyrim isn't the best looking game but it still doesn't make the graphical "leap" of the next-gen Witcher look that impressive.

What I should have said was the Witcher 3 (to me) looks like a decent PC port of a PS3/360 game. Hell, even the first post shows a screenshot that makes the Witcher 2 look comparable to Witcher 3.

 

[Skyzard]

Where did you get Ubi from?

You were replying to someone who was asking if this was about watch dogs. Nice delivery on the speech.

Even Hitler is pissed off about the downgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6KibmknZU

That one was pretty well done.

 

[StevieP]

Even Hitler is pissed off about the downgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6KibmknZU

Bahaha I can't believe I get to say that I agree with hitler for once! The defeated look in his eyes after he realizes what splatoon represents... Perfect. I even saw a master race joke in there, but the author didn't quite take it all the way and make a joke about invading cdpr (or Poland if you want to be totally politically incorrect lol)

 

[CambriaRising]

What I should have said was the Witcher 3 (to me) looks like a decent PC port of a PS3/360 game.