BKatastrophe
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I've never read a flash comic but have been interested in doing so. Is Flash Rebirth a good place to start?
Batman in training then lol.
BKatastrophe
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I would say either that or New 52 Flash. I tried the start of New 52 Flash and it was alright. Had its moments. Flash Rebirth is super good, though.
The problem with this is that B) automatically means A) shouldn't happen; Barry and Wells can both easily kill Oliver before he even knows they are in the room, let alone even reach for an arrow if he did know they were in the room.
These are inherent inconsistencies when trying to create drama around superpowers. There's no need to try and defend or handwave it away; it's just an observation. I'm cool with it, just like I'm cool with my Batman analogy. But, they are noticeably pushing big hero moments in the crossovers.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Melissa Benoist is so pretty.
Love those pictures, they're adorable. Wanna see Benoist and Gustin cross over
Love those pictures, they're adorable. Wanna see Benoist and Gustin cross over
Septimus Prime
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Yeah. Wells shouldn't be able to be shot with arrows, since Barry is able to move out of the way of a bullet as it touches his skin. Barry does get shot with arrows, though. Must be speedforce arrows.
wells likely can't be shot by arrows unless he wants to be, and he wanted to be.
We know two things.
Wells developed barry because he needed him to tap into the speedforce.
Wells still needed barry thus why he isn't dead.
If we assume wells needs barry to do something for him then he needs some way to get barry to do it.
if he was to walk up to him and tell him do this odds are he wouldn't. If he was to instead get caught, let barry think he has the upper hand and pretend to let that thing he needs done slip and then manage to get barry to think it is his idea to do it he would likely do it, which is what we will likely see next episode.
The wells fight was to easy, he clearly wanted to be caught and just put on a show.
I want to be hyped, but any time I start to get hyped it gets replaced with dread.
I expect the finale to be great... and then we will have to wait months for more... that's where the dread comes from...
I mean I will likely be excited from the finale for like 40 minutes and then have to deal with depression @_@
CragMan241
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Man, that scene with Wells and Barry is some good stuff. Tom Cavanagh is so great in this show.
No room for me? ;~;
Train is getting full
No room for me? ;~;
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Septimus Prime
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I agree with that, but at the same time it would suck to make the fight illegitimate, since that would invalidate Oliver and Firestorm.
What we do also know, though, is that Wells doesn't have full control of the speedforce in this time, so it could just be that he was particularly slow during those moments.
Or it could be speedforce arrows.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Between Mad Max and the Flash finale, the meteor can come take us all for all I care, so long as it's after 9PM tomorrow.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Just think, we have the entire off season to speculate what's coming for Season 2! And of course the sneak peeks at comic con...
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
They also apparently begin filming again in early July, so we'll get set leaks and stuff, too.
To be fair both oliver and firestorm should be completely invalidated.
While I will grant that Oliver's IQ raises by at least 50 points when he crosses over to the Flash, he as a normal human would have no real chance against someone like wells unless he had a way to generate a field that stops the speedforce. As the arrows logically would never get close to wells.
and firestorm, while more explosive in power, isn't a good match up at all with the flash. It's true fire is hot and powerful, it is also true how ever that it needs time to burn. You can sit with a candle and quickly move your finger back and forth through the flame and never get burned. Just like wells would be able to punch firestorm and pull back before the fire has time to burn him, or alternatively he has already taught barry multiple ways to put out fire that he could use on him.
Thus if wells was trying and the power levels were consistent the fight should have gone like this.
Knock flash back, while he is recovering snap the arrows neck done.
Knock flash back, while he is recovering, put out firestorm, snap neck done.
deal with flash which is weaker than you with ease, done wells wins lol.
but that doesn't make for good tv
and the whole off season to
mourn joe's death
(not spoilered because it's merely speculation with no proof at all )Has it been confirmed that joe will be back for next season at all? I know people are worried about wells, but joe from the start has felt like the father figure that tragically dies to give the hero new goals thus I have expected him to die all season long.
My theory going into last weeks episode was that Wells would intentionally lose the fight and let himself be caught. There were certain things he did that seemed like he was holding back. When he got his speed back he took Oliver down in a second then took his time with the vibrating hand as if he knew Barry would step in at the last second. Wells doesn't want oliver dead as he plays a part in the newspaper article that wells has been trying to keep intact all season.
BKatastrophe
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Wells is also attempting to change things, though.
Wells is still a psycho. He enjoys the kill. He took his time with Cisco, too.
Yeah that's true and he did knock Mason around a bit and get him scared before killing him from behind.
Seems like he only quickly kills the unimportant people like the security guys in episode nine. Just quickly snapped that guys neck and went on with his business.
I guess it has to be that way because if he could just take down everyone with ease we wouldn't have much of a show.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Yeah, let's be real. A consistently powered speedster ends up like this:
Which is awesome for a panel, but hard to make into any kind of compelling TV show.
Which is awesome for a panel, but hard to make into any kind of compelling TV show.
BKatastrophe
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New 52 Flash establishes that fairly quick. There needs to be concentration. Then, I imagine the more and more your powers are used the more they become like a second nature. But it requires concentration. It's not like Quicksilver, who is moving fast by default.
or he
steals peoples' speed and turns them into living statues
spoiler tagged a comic book moment
BKatastrophe
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I kinda wanna post that page now...
PhoncipleBone
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Do it behind a link.
Don't need to spoiler tag comic book stuff, just direct show spoilers. Speed stealing is OP as fuck.
Also here's another Superman/Flash moment I mentioned earlier
BKatastrophe
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Don't need to spoiler tag comic book stuff, just direct show spoilers. Speed stealing is OP as fuck.
Also here's another Superman/Flash moment I mentioned earlier
Now I'm really conflicted
Aaaaw man
Fine
Don't need to spoiler tag comic book stuff, just direct show spoilers. Speed stealing is OP as fuck.
Also here's another Superman/Flash moment I mentioned earlier
The flash seems super OP when he wants to be. This is some good stuff right here. Of course the flash is faster than heat vision.
Whoa that would be frightening.
PhoncipleBone
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Oh, I remember seeing that page before. That is cold as fuck.
freaking hardcore
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Cavanaugh has to stay part of the cast. I dunno how, but that dude... just fucking, that fucking dude.
Doesn't necessarily mean anything but he was at the CW upfronts with the rest of the cast. I think they know what they got and know they have to keep him in some capacity.
Poodlestrike
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Honestly, at times it feels like he's easily the most OP character in the DCU.
fallengorn
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Still not on the hype train? Fine I don't need to be on it. ;_;
don't get on it...
it's going to gain to much hype and crash in a blissful explosion of payoff and leave everyone in a comatose state for 4 months after
don't get on it...
it's going to gain to much hype and crash in a blissful explosion of payoff and leave everyone in a comatose state for 4 months after
I already have doctors standing by. My self induced coma is almost here.
Inertia's a douche. Wally does something similar to Zoom by forcing him into a timestream too.
Yeah his powers are insane. That's why he's interesting in that a lot of his villains aren't really huge or lethal threats, at least not alone. And he's going to get hit by a lot of dumb shit in the future by plot convenience because that's just part of the character.
Yeah his powers are insane. That's why he's interesting in that a lot of his villains aren't really huge or lethal threats, at least not alone. And he's going to get hit by a lot of dumb shit in the future by plot convenience because that's just part of the character.
Just thought of something. If the show lasts a few more years, which at it's current popularity it likely will. They could easily do a few episodes to a season focusing on a younger Reverse Flash. Our current Barry is at the end of the current Reverse Flash timeline (assuming he doesn't escape), but sometime in the future he will run into and deal with a much younger Reverse Flash and battle against him and come to hate Barry all new. After all, RF will likely become his foe anew.
Granted, our Flash now knows the RF very well and has experience against a very experienced RF. Whenever he starts to deal with a younger RF, that RF won't likely be as skilled and won't know Barry much at all or how he fights/etc. So Flash might end up finishing younger RF without much effort.
If somehow our current RF is finished, would be a neat way to bring back the character. Though, the downside is of course that the younger RF won't be played by Cavanaugh but a new actor. (Since wouldn't make sense for this younger RF to look like Wells if he is before he ever took over his life)
Granted, our Flash now knows the RF very well and has experience against a very experienced RF. Whenever he starts to deal with a younger RF, that RF won't likely be as skilled and won't know Barry much at all or how he fights/etc. So Flash might end up finishing younger RF without much effort.
If somehow our current RF is finished, would be a neat way to bring back the character. Though, the downside is of course that the younger RF won't be played by Cavanaugh but a new actor. (Since wouldn't make sense for this younger RF to look like Wells if he is before he ever took over his life)
I fully expect him to get hit by dumb stuff and ideally it will be amusing and great.
just don't have it be as dumb as bees. arrows fine... bees are just to slow in general for me to suspend my belief as bees only go 16-22 mph.
at least make it something going 100mph like a baseball
imagine flash as the bird.... don't watch if you like birds.
I'm hoping the show goes 4 or so years and that after that they move grant over to a justice league show. I mean if batman/superman can't be apart of it all the better. As while I would miss a number of batman/super villains, I sure wouldn't miss batman or superman themselves (especially super man... one of the most boring characters out there)
BKatastrophe
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Inertia is up there with Major Force on the rankings of pure scumbag villains. Just super scummy. On a scale of 1-10, they're both 11.
Yeah they would likely just have Letscher play any version of RF that exists before the Wells version.
I wonder if we'll get a hunter zolomon style zoom in the future or someone like cobalt blue. Would be cool to see the Thawne family on this show.
For those not in the know who exactly is Inertia?
I'd like to see Hunter Zolomon but I'm coming around to the idea of each Flash having their own villain speedster rather than just throwing them all on Barry. Barry has Reverse Flash, Wally has Zoom, Jay has The Rival, Bart has Inertia and Barry52 has Daniel West Reverse Flash. I guess as we're probably getting Wally
it'll make sense for more to show up.
Weren't they robot bees? That's totes different.
and Jay
Weren't they robot bees? That's totes different.
Inertia actually convinced the Rogues to kill Bart Allen. He was a clone of him from the future.
they were but they were designed to work like normal bees just with increased bee stinger power
it wasn't just the bees though, if they had designed a good way for him to get caught off guard that would be one thing, but it was a building with lots of glass that he easily could have broken to get out of >.>
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Here's the plot line I'd like them to follow for a season 2:
I'll spoiler it because, whatevs:
I'll spoiler it because, whatevs:
Introduce Wally West, who is the time-traveling son of Barry and Iris, who grew up without his Father and has used a time machine to come back and attempt to prevent the events that lead to the crisis oft-mentioned in the future newspaper.
Basically follow the mold of the Impulse story line from Young Justice Season 2, but have Wally conceal his identity and have his motivations unclear to the audience initially, ala Wells/Reverse Flash.
Basically follow the mold of the Impulse story line from Young Justice Season 2, but have Wally conceal his identity and have his motivations unclear to the audience initially, ala Wells/Reverse Flash.
Major Force is the worst of the fucking worst.
For those who don't know, he's the reason the website Women in Refrigerators was started. The name of the website is a pretty straight explanation for the sort of things he does.
Yeah and if you're familiar with the Rogues, they don't kill Speedsters. It's a really big thing with them. And you don't fucking cross Captain Cold.
they were but they were designed to work like normal bees just with increased bee stinger power
it wasn't just the bees though, if they had designed a good way for him to get caught off guard that would be one thing, but it was a building with lots of glass that he easily could have broken to get out of >.>
nah robot bees *handwaves logic*
Why would it be Wally and not Bart? That sounds much more feasible as a Bart storyline.
That said I'm not sure they'll introduce any direct children from the future. That'd require taking a pretty definitive stance on certain relationships. Grandchildren like Bart maybe. Make him ambiguously mixed race.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The timing of it and the emotional impact. Barry disappears in the Crisis and his son comes back to save him. It would mirror the first season in a lot of ways.
I don't know much about the comics but If I understand right (and as zero pointed out above) the rogues don't kill speedsters. How did he convince them to do that?
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