That's the card I'm waiting for information on tbh, the 390x is way outside my wheelhouse.
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That's the card I'm waiting for information on tbh, the 390x is way outside my wheelhouse.
TaintedHotSauce
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You have to figure AMD will continue their long-standing tradition of binning and release a 390non-x which a lower shader count, lower clocks, etc. Those usually end up being the best bang for the buck.
There's a rumour the 290x re-badged (380x) will feature 8GB VRAM.
Will have to think long and hard before I commit to spending that kind of money for a GPU.
I would be interested in that.
What would be the advantage over the existing 290X? How many games are taking advantage of even 4GB of VRAM at this point? Honest question. I haven't kept up with the PC arms race in a while and am still running a 2GB VRAM 6970.
KojiKnight
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If you're running above 1080p, 4GB+ is pretty much a must.
Gotcha, thanks. I'm still firmly in the 1080p camp due to my Sony HDTV also being my gaming PC monitor.
Backfoggen
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A $849 card with 4GB is insane.
Honestly what matters more to me (not a Crysis or Metro type of gamer) is the price and performance against the 290x that already exists. Though I am on a 2560x1600 30" screen.
Kar
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Its like the PS4 reveal all over again
I'm not really sure about how many situations that would be +4 GB and still +30fps on a single 290x.
8GB per card is probably a lot more useful if you plan on going crossfire though.
In general, both AMD and Nvidia are pretty good at kitting their baselines out with adequate memory in relation to their horsepower.
Theonik
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I wouldn't say you'd need more than 4GB for most games at 1600p even. Now if you are running 4K then you need the extra VRAM with recent games.
You'll probably run out of horse power (<30fps) way before than that on high settings, at least on a single GPU (excluding Titan).
Coulomb_Barrier
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The 380 will be like the 290x but draw less energy and produce less heat. That is what I expect. So improvements in that area would be welcome even if 8GB GDDR5 memory makes little difference to current games. Anyway you can buy a 290x with 8GB already, but the benefits with current games is almost non-existant compared to the 4GB version. It will probably be a different story for games later this year and beyond though.
Coulomb_Barrier
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HomerSimpson-Man
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Goes toe to toe with a Titan X if not faster with less VRAM?
I expect $700+.
Now the cards below the 390x are the ones I'm really interested in the easier to digest price range.
I expect $700+.
Now the cards below the 390x are the ones I'm really interested in the easier to digest price range.
Unknown Soldier
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People frequently forget history and that AMD has pretty much always has followed Nvidia's pricing when they had a performance competitive part on the high end. I don't even know what people were expecting, if this thing can beat a Titan X it was never going to cost $300 or even $500.
It's not outright faster according to the report. Trades blows. The 290X also traded blows with the original Titan, and was $550 at launch.
If the card is clearly faster than Titan they can justify that pricing better but doesn't seem to be the case.
It's still gonna have less RAM and AMD probably won't charge as much of a premium for their hardware as Nvidia. I'm still gonna double down on $550.
This is implementing newer memory system which is costlier. I'd expect the price to be higher than what they've usually charged as they know any early adopters will stomach the extra costs.
Amey
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If this winds up being true, which I highly doubt, nobody is going to buy this.
Read the article. Thanks for the link. Really interesting stuff and a great look at the new memory technology.
Dictator93
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R2900XT anyone?
dgrdsv
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Why would a re-badged 290X draw less energy and produce less heat? It'll probably draw and produce even more because of +4GB GDDR5 and a possible stock upclock.
So let me get this straight. According to the new rumors the card is now:
Only 4 Gigs
Only 3% faster than Titan X
$850
Well, that's certainly... uh...
McHuj
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a nice setup by AMD for the 6GB 980Ti at $749 (or there about)?
dgrdsv
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AMD confirms 4GB limit for first HBM graphics card
Well, this is certainly a bad sign.
Well, this is certainly a bad sign.
SolidSnakeUS
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Eeesh... c'mon AMD...
Oh, this is going to be a tough sell for >750$ MSRP.
And the article says it will be selling at the top end of the price spectrum. At 4GB I don't see these being all that popular, especially if the price is between $750 and $1000.
SolidSnakeUS
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It may be fast memory, but it ain't going to do dick for 4K gaming. Hell, it will barely do anything for Star Citizen at 1080p...
SolidSnakeUS
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Pascal is next year or 2017?
McHuj
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Supposedly late 2016.
SolidSnakeUS
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Bleh... that's pretty far out there. Can they last on Maxwell chips for another 1.5 years? Or is AMD allowing them to? Hell, AMD is allowing Intel to basically have the same chip every year for the past 3 or 4 years, just a tad faster each time.
I may just go for another GTX 970 and SLI it.
Yeah. Maybe even more? It's basically their new top end card and it's way mast the 980, using a new tech most aren't.
dgrdsv
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Pascal is 16FF+. It is unknown when this TSMC node will be able to produce a GPU with GM200 complexity (which should be something in range of "GP104" on this new process). I'm hoping for a 1st half of 2016.
Unknown Soldier
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All over the ship, dancing through the wreckage of the AMD computer core,
JEN-HSUN WAS LAUGHING
McHuj
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I wouldn't get my hopes up. I bet the timing will be similar to the Maxwell series, GP204 in the fall of 2016 and GP200 as a Titan in the spring/summer of 2017. I hope I'm wrong and it's earlier though,
AMD may be in trouble if they plan to launch a 4K card with 4GB of memory.
This is probably why nVidia waited a year, and instead decided to focus on maxing out 28nm. They'll carry the lessons learned from GM204/200 into Pascal on HBM2 next year while AMD is stuck playing catch up again.
I have a 290x OC now. I can wait. I game at 1440p and the 290x does the job ok. It's not great and I'd like something better but I'm not going to upgrade for a few more frames. I want as close to 60fps at 1440p as I can get. Anything under $600 is a luxury buy for me but over that makes me rethink what I'm doing.
Theonik
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Pretty much was what I was worrying about. AMD dun goof'd but this card might be too expensive to make. Maybe. Really doubt it. Graphics card margins are insane.