Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

She has condoms in her wallet so she isn't completely into girls.

Well, yes, but let's not pretend that all gay people don't have any experience with the opposite sex. We're talking high school aged people here.

I'm just saying it's pretty clear she's clearly not totally straight in the context of this story. She asks another girl to kiss her and is clearly in love with another one.
 
I am quite enjoying the way it plays and obviously i'm invested enough to want to see what happens but my god the characters are infuriatingly stupid and irritating.

To the point where i'm not sure if its parody or not. Are young Americans actually like that?
I won't believe it.

it's how French developers think American teens act like, anyway :p
But I don't really have any problem with the writing, playing the game is like watching a surprisingly engaging and entertaining high school drama TV show

I'm still going with my 'Rachel is a time-traveling alternative reality version of Max'-theory. Same size, showed up and disappeared again exactly during the time Max lived in Seattle, and her personality is like the polar opposite of Max - cool, super popular, outgoing, had lots of relationships with people in Arcadia Bay. Only problem is that she presumably looks a bit different
 
lol'ed hard at Max pointing out she tends to spill shit every time she tries to grab something and going directly for the chair in the lab section. Very clever, writers.

Really not sure about the Rachel-Kate cospitacy. I mean, Max seems really to push it, and the player is obvious aware there is some sort of cospiracy-connecting going on (because this is a videogame), but I'm not sure why she's so fixated on connecting Rachel and Kate.

When the part with William happened, I was expecting the game to make me choice between saving him or letting him go, altough I realize it's naive thinking, given the ammount of works it would require for something like that to work.
 
Chloe seems to have written thing so that Max stops with her time travels.

Grafittis like : Chloe/Amber/Max was here, Just gotta let go, I want to die and others. Seems like in another timeline with her selfies, Chloe and Max were able to leave themselves notes for the future. I guess it hasnt set off so to speak.
Its a chick flick but I cried when I was 16 and watched it at school. The Movie : Somewhere in time has this token plot as well.

That and she kept making those selfies makes sure she's always 'there'. Plus Chloe still has the butterfly polaroid. So if she goes there, she can let Chloe die or live and start all over again.
 
Just finished up episode 3, so I'll just post what I put over in OT...

Another great episode with some amazing moments and wonderful soundtrack. I'm really glad this game does have a good deal of chill moments to balance out some of the absolute insane shit that seems to happen. That ending too...I don't think I saw any of the last chapters coming at all. The wait is real.

My stats this time around:
I left the money
I kissed Chloe
I sided with Chloe - GOD DAMN did this feel so fucking good. Loved the bit with Chloe right after telling me not to rewind either. She knows me so well.
I didn't kill the dog.
I missed the bit about the gun, but Chloe still has it, so that works out.

Did not see the entire last section coming, but boy howdy did it deliver. Wonder how all of that fucked with Rachael and her situation at Blackwell too. I am kind of okay with the whole Max is Rachael biz based on what we've seen so far, but I kind of hope something else is going on here. Besides, we still gotta save the world since it seems like it's still going to end on Friday.

I do agree that this will most likely end with Max reversing all of this and possibly not coming back to Arcadia Bay as she seems to be the center of this ever-growing, world-ending event. Maybe life has to play out in the way it always has and Max fucking with the timeline is the cause of the coming destruction.
 
I tried both options, David first, and I thought Max was so on point with her anti-David rant that I couldn't go back. Even Joyce was appalled, haha.

Same. I really agonized with the decision. This game makes you struggle with the big choices. Episode 2 especially I was always torn.

What I think is that this Max's new power has the following restriction: she needs a photo which she appears in and she can only affect things in the immident vicinity of the scene the photo shows. So maybe in the next episode you will go back to the selfie you took with Chloe on the bed and do something? Or maybe go back to some other photo and stop Chloe from getting disabled? I mean Max's belongings seem to ignore time and space so she still would have the photo with blue haired Chloe. Also seems an easy way to make Chloe believe that Max has the power in that new timeline as well.

Pictures do not carry over. They never have. It didn't make sense when it happened before but now it does since they're obviously somehow connected to her power.
 
So Max loves Final Fantasy Spirits Within, Chloe watches Lupin III and
Victoria collects anime figures
. I love how LiS takes place in a world of otakus.
 
Started theorizing about this game on the train ride home and I'm just going to do a crazy prediction for fun. The new photo rewind mechanic opens so many doors!

Spoilering in case people are sensitive about theories

I think the picture of the blue butterfly that Max took right before you saved Chloe pretty much confirms that we will have to go back to that timeline once more and have Chloe possibly killed after all to undo all the butterfly effects that Max caused (hence the butterfly).

The problem is, that picture was shredded and I think Nathan might have it (he assaulted Max at the parking place because he found the picture). So we might have to retrieve it later. Or the concierge has it... He is super suspicious.

I'm also considering the possibility that the butterfly is connected to Chloe (similar to Max's spirit animal seems to be that deer, maybe Chloe's spirit animal is the butterfly... they're both blue!) and the butterfly was there for a reason - so that Max would take a picture and be able to travel back to that moment later --- to have Chloe killed after all!

My head hurts :P Episode 4 can't come soon enough...
 
Pictures do not carry over. They never have. It didn't make sense when it happened before but now it does since they're obviously somehow connected to her power.

Where in the game a picture didn't carry over? Not really doubting you just drawing a blank here.
 
Started theorizing about this game on the train ride home and I'm just going to do a crazy prediction for fun. The new photo rewind mechanic opens so many doors!

Spoilering in case people are sensitive about theories

I think the picture of the blue butterfly that Max took right before you saved Chloe pretty much confirms that we will have to go back to that timeline once more and have Chloe possibly killed after all to undo all the butterfly effects that Max caused (hence the butterfly).

The problem is, that picture was shredded and I think Nathan might have it (he assaulted Max at the parking place because he found the picture). So we might have to retrieve it later. Or the concierge has it... He is super suspicious.

I'm also considering the possibility that the butterfly is connected to Chloe (similar to Max's spirit animal seems to be that deer, maybe Chloe's spirit animal is the butterfly... they're both blue!) and the butterfly was there for a reason - so that Max would take a picture and be able to travel back to that moment later --- to have Chloe killed after all!

My head hurts :P Episode 4 can't come soon enough...

Think you might be on point with most of this. Makes sense. Better than my theory that max has to kill herself haha
 
Started theorizing about this game on the train ride home and I'm just going to do a crazy prediction for fun. The new photo rewind mechanic opens so many doors!

Spoilering in case people are sensitive about theories

I think the picture of the blue butterfly that Max took right before you saved Chloe pretty much confirms that we will have to go back to that timeline once more and have Chloe possibly killed after all to undo all the butterfly effects that Max caused (hence the butterfly).

The problem is, that picture was shredded and I think Nathan might have it (he assaulted Max at the parking place because he found the picture). So we might have to retrieve it later. Or the concierge has it... He is super suspicious.

I'm also considering the possibility that the butterfly is connected to Chloe (similar to Max's spirit animal seems to be that deer, maybe Chloe's spirit animal is the butterfly... they're both blue!) and the butterfly was there for a reason - so that Max would take a picture and be able to travel back to that moment later --- to have Chloe killed after all!

My head hurts :P Episode 4 can't come soon enough...

Wasn't that a different picture that was torn in half? It was her contest entry. Chloe still has the other one.
Did anyone notice the weird swirly things around Chloe's house when you go back at the end?
 
Wasn't that a different picture that was torn in half? It was her contest entry. Chloe still has the other one.
Did anyone notice the weird swirly things around Chloe's house when you go back at the end?
OH-- you're right :P.

Wait, she has a non-shredded version of the pic? I don't remember anymore :(.

Anyway it would be cool if we could make a list of all the "story" pictures Max has taken, as we might potentially revisit those moments again in future episodes. So far from the top of my head:

- Contest pic (shredded)
- Butterfly picture (in Chloe's possession)
- Bed selfie with Chloe

Hmm, maybe the pic of David harassing Kate (if you took it)? Not sure how that would be relevant anymore though.
 
Question about Max power and what I maybe missed in previous episodes and how she use them.

Max ability is to rewind time around her, she normally can't like rewind to be in another place for example and her power is limited to a cretin timeframe.

The scene with her and chole and how they enter the office Max used a nice trick. Max rewind time to enter then she opened it from the inside. But after that in the episode with David scene I got confused because It suposed to be the same trick but It's not. Like if she rewind time the keys should return back to David's pocket isn't that right?

Forward to Max scene in the her dorm room with the picture before she goes back to 13 years old Max. Again, If I understood the power right Max can rewind time so If what happened is that she rewind time back until that point, that means 18 years old Max will disappear from this time line (another missing student) and go back to 13 years old Max. So (crazy as it seem) two Max in the same timeline, that's also explain the homeless lady, she's Max in the same timeline.

Tell me I'm wrong.
 
Well, you're wrong about the last bit. Her mind just got sent back, there aren't two Max in the same area. Even if the homeless lady is someone from the game, it wouldn't be Max in this situation because by the time the normal timeline rolls around she'd only be like 6 years older, not a middle aged person.
 
One thing I really don;t like so far is that the devs have now given people two chances to get into the Vortex Club party, but in the end it doesn't matter. Even if you;re still not on the list by the end of the episode the preview for the next still shows Max at the party.
 
One thing I really don;t like so far is that the devs have now given people two chances to get into the Vortex Club party, but in the end it doesn't matter. Even if you;re still not on the list by the end of the episode the preview for the next still shows Max at the party.
I actually somehow missed both chances despite my efforts to inspect everything so I'm looking forward to seeing how Max will end up at the party :P
 
One thing I really don;t like so far is that the devs have now given people two chances to get into the Vortex Club party, but in the end it doesn't matter. Even if you;re still not on the list by the end of the episode the preview for the next still shows Max at the party.

..>Somehow I missed them.
 
Well, you're wrong about the last bit. Her mind just got sent back, there aren't two Max in the same area. Even if the homeless lady is someone from the game, it wouldn't be Max in this situation because by the time the normal timeline rolls around she'd only be like 6 years older, not a middle aged person.

I was going to come up with another one. say that when Max travel back 18 Max still aged, 6 years back there's 13 years old Max and 24 years old Max. Then when she goes back to the normal timeline 18 years old Max and also 24 years old Max after 6 years = 30 years old Max. But still the homeless lady looks older than that. So even this theory is wrong.

Okay maybe

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Kind of annoyed by the ending, don't think I like it as much as other people. Feels like they just threw everything out mid season and start again. Hopefully it isn't that much of a hard reset. Did feel very Butterfly Effect (and a bit of Sliders).
 
Kind of annoyed by the ending, don't think I like it as much as other people. Feels like they just threw everything out mid season and start again. Hopefully it isn't that much of a hard reset. Did feel very Butterfly Effect (and a bit of Sliders).

Again, the preview showed Max back in her old clothes. It's safe to say we'll be returning to our timeline in the next episode. If I had to hazard a guess, we'll be hopping between the two for the rest of the season.
 
My theory:

Quite some things have changed in the alternative timeline, but OTHERS have not.

Perhaps Alterna-Max, as a member of Vortex Club and friends with Victoria etc. can find out something about Rachel Amber, possibly she hasn't even been missing in this timeline...?

Max can use those connections to do some research and gain insight from inside the Club, a level of access she would have never had in the original timeline.

Then she can return and use the new info to progress in the original timeline.

It all adds up ;)
 
Wheelchair Chloe already seems a lot more pleasant than blue-haired Chloe in the few seconds that we get to see her. If she totally replaces the old Chloe, I'm down with that, and it totally makes up for the old one being such a jerk.
 
Started theorizing about this game on the train ride home and I'm just going to do a crazy prediction for fun. The new photo rewind mechanic opens so many doors!

Spoilering in case people are sensitive about theories

I think the picture of the blue butterfly that Max took right before you saved Chloe pretty much confirms that we will have to go back to that timeline once more and have Chloe possibly killed after all to undo all the butterfly effects that Max caused (hence the butterfly).

The problem is, that picture was shredded and I think Nathan might have it (he assaulted Max at the parking place because he found the picture). So we might have to retrieve it later. Or the concierge has it... He is super suspicious.

I'm also considering the possibility that the butterfly is connected to Chloe (similar to Max's spirit animal seems to be that deer, maybe Chloe's spirit animal is the butterfly... they're both blue!) and the butterfly was there for a reason - so that Max would take a picture and be able to travel back to that moment later --- to have Chloe killed after all!

My head hurts :P Episode 4 can't come soon enough...

The first picture Max takes of herself is right at the beginning of Episode 1 in the classroom, before the butterfly. I'd image Max is going to have to go back there at some point.
 
Really liked this episode. Pretty monumental stuff.
NUTS TIME TRAVEL POWERS!!
I hope Chloe is a bit less shitty now

I really want to know the connection between Rachel and Max. When Chloe's mother accidentally exclaimed Rachel it got my mind thinking (I know shes just wearing her clothes but I still feel there's something more. Could be red herring though).

Although you've got that, the Rachel mystery in general, the connection between David and Nathan, Nathan's character in general and his connection to Kate, the whole Kate and Vortex club stuff, the mystery behind Chloe's power AND the whole cyclone end of the world stuff (which may or may not be connected to the 'End of the world party') PLUS you have that weird dead bird stuff in Chloe's back garden.
There is so much going on in this game its a bit nuts. But now i'm unsure if any of that matters now.

Also, I really wanted to find that bag and the goggles for those guys in the pool area. :(
 
The first picture Max takes of herself is right at the beginning of Episode 1 in the classroom, before the butterfly. I'd image Max is going to have to go back there at some point.

Haven't read the full thread, but holy fuck, as bad as Chloe can be sometimes, I hope that the ultimate solution isn't somehow along the lines of "Let Chloe die at the start in order to solve Arcadia Bay's problems."
 
Haven't read the full thread, but holy fuck, as bad as Chloe can be sometimes, I hope that the ultimate solution isn't somehow along the lines of "Let Chloe die at the start in order to solve Arcadia Bay's problems."

Well Rachael's disappearance hadn't been solved at that point so I don't think that will be the ending to the series, unless Rachael is "in the dark room" the whole time and it ends with Max reverting to the beginning and running right out of the classroom then seeing some sort of evidence in there.
 
Haven't read the full thread, but holy fuck, as bad as Chloe can be sometimes, I hope that the ultimate solution isn't somehow along the lines of "Let Chloe die at the start in order to solve Arcadia Bay's problems."

That's what I'm worried about, and one of the reasons I was bothered by the romantic tension between Chloe/Max this episode (at least for Chloe). A gay romance with a happy ending? Never fucking happens.

Maybe I spend too much time on TV tropes.
 
And I think some people (myself included) are forgetting that Max can't just warp into a photo and then live her life inside it. There's boundaries to the area, so she's limited in what she can do to change timelines.
 
That's what I'm worried about, and one of the reasons I was bothered by the romantic tension between Chloe/Max this episode (at least for Chloe). A gay romance with a happy ending? Never fucking happens.

Maybe I spend too much time on TV tropes.

I kinda felt that too during the pool scene, but Chloe's body language if you choose to kiss her felt off to me and made me disregard any sort of romance with her as a possibility. Maybe I'm reading too much into the body language though.
 
I kinda felt that too during the pool scene, but Chloe's body language if you choose to kiss her felt off to me and made me disregard any sort of romance with her as a possibility. Maybe I'm reading too much into the body language though.

It's essentially Mass Effect's system, players can try for Chloe if they want but there's always Warren if they choose.
 
It's essentially Mass Effect's system, players can try for Chloe if they want but there's always Warren if they choose.

That's what I thought too, but again, I "felt" kind of shutdown the way Chloe reacted to Max actually kissing her.

Although, it was kinda cute. Big, strong, brave Chloe being the one to back down after double daring Max.
 
Haven't read the full thread, but holy fuck, as bad as Chloe can be sometimes, I hope that the ultimate solution isn't somehow along the lines of "Let Chloe die at the start in order to solve Arcadia Bay's problems."

Nah fuck Chloe.

Also I was a bit gutted I accidentally got a bird killed.
 
What kind of sick fuck would throw the bone into the street!?!?!?

The kind of sicko who runs two parallel saves:

'Good' Max
'Bad' (Mad?) Max

So far, her crimes against Arcadia Bay denizens include:

1. Nonchalantly flaunting pregnancy tests in front of others
2. If it lived, kill it
3. If it loves/likes you, break his/her heart
4. If someone else has to burn so you might succeed, so be it
5. False accusations against the innocent (maybe, we'll see and correct if necessary)
6. Marriage wrecking

What can I say. I like to explore all outcomes ;)
 
I'm a little worried, to be honest. We're getting to Doctor Who levels of self-justification. The rules no longer seem clear. WIthout a narrative logic, the game could definitely just fold in on itself.
 
I'm a little worried, to be honest. We're getting to Doctor Who levels of self-justification. The rules no longer seem clear. WIthout a narrative logic, the game could definitely just fold in on itself.

I think the logic of the time travelling makes a lot of sense, really. It's not too complicated.

And also keep in mind that we don't know all the rules yet, Max may have more powers she has yet to discover.
 
I kinda felt that too during the pool scene, but Chloe's body language if you choose to kiss her felt off to me and made me disregard any sort of romance with her as a possibility. Maybe I'm reading too much into the body language though.

While Chloe and Rachel may not have been in an explicit relationship, it is quite clear that Chloe had very strong feelings towards her, and is greatly disturbed by her disappearance. Mix this together with her newly returned childhood friend, who she has only met a few days ago, that she now has evolving and complicated feelings for and is uncertain if they are returned. She gave her Rachel's clothes to wear.

Chloe is the classic mix of bullheaded and deeply insecure. She reflexes away from the kiss because she knows Max doesn't take it seriously and because it flares up everything else that's going on in her head.

This is all my personal reading of course, from the various scenes we get of Chloe looking weird around Max when she's not paying attention.

What kind of sick fuck would throw the bone into the street!?!?!?

I was shocked 6% of people chose that option. How could you hurt a dog?!

... I hope we get blue haired Chloe back though.

I will be both deeply impressed and deeply annoyed if they do not send us back to the original timeline, seeing as how Max remaining would completely invalidate all of our decisions and the mysteries up to this point.
 
My theory:

Quite some things have changed in the alternative timeline, but OTHERS have not.

Perhaps Alterna-Max, as a member of Vortex Club and friends with Victoria etc. can find out something about Rachel Amber, possibly she hasn't even been missing in this timeline...?

Max can use those connections to do some research and gain insight from inside the Club, a level of access she would have never had in the original timeline.

Then she can return and use the new info to progress in the original timeline.

It all adds up ;)

I thought about this option earlier, and it opens up a lot of interesting gameplay options. The problem, though, is you don't really have a good way to know whether anything you learn in the alternate timeline also applies to the original timeline, or vice-versa. Max (and by extension the player) would be constantly uncertain about what was reliable or not. Even things like personality traits can change, so things like "hey it turns out Victoria will do whatever you want if you bond over anime figures" may not be true of the other Victoria. Pretty much the only things you CAN rely on are things that happened before the timeline forked, so basically anything before Max and Chloe were 13-ish.
 
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