You now can get Refunds on Steam

Quite a few people assumed that happened when Ubi's upcoming games were mistakenly yanked from Steam late last year. What made it all the more hilarious is that they were gone for less than 24 hours.

Except in the UK, where it was back to "mystery force cock-blocking UK and only UK steam releases" again.
 
Great news. Though given the nature of steam sales (hoarding tons of games and then playing them months later) it won't be that much of use with 14 days restriction.
 
This will be case by case right? I have max Payne 1&2, paradise city, and the arkham game that I can't play due to bugs that don't allow me to play them on w8. I Bought those games over 14 days ago and I think Arkham has more than 2 hours.
 
I love this post. Maybe people will get lucky and this will be automated.

Well it is from some of the posts around places like reddit (if they can be believed). Takes 5 mins to have the full refund done to your original payment method. This particular system shouldn't be too hard to automate since Steam already tracks the play time, date of purchase for the game / dlc and time used since, VAC bans and more. They'll probably track number and frequency of refunds to determine abuse, but it seems likely that they are not going to really care about any reason you put down.
 
Wow, that sounds like a really good system. Wasn't really expecting this.
 
You think so? Origin not getting enough traffic? I would believe that if so.

Well, EA has "downgraded" its Origin performance metric from total number of accounts to total number of installs (i.e. downloads). I've no doubt that Origin's growth has not been in line with expectations despite EA's games always flying up the Top Sellers list on Steam when they're featured deals and so eventually it is going to realise that maybe having its more recent releases on Steam isn't a bad thing. The rumour back when EA left Steam behind was that it had demanded a larger cut of sales because of Valve's revised policy on DLC availability (a policy that didn't even apply to the games EA pulled, as a matter of fact), but I think said policy has since been ditched -- there's now a "DLCIsAvailableOnStore" flag for DLC apps and I know that buying Subnautica from the dev's site earned you a special skin that cannot be bought on Steam itself.
 
Absolutely fantastic news. Maybe this will convince developers to stop releasing broken games at launch.

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I usually buy games I really really want and know for fact that they have almost no issues, but getting a refund just in case is amazing!

Imagine if you buy an early access or a day one released game and it turns out to not be to your liking, you just ask for a refund and bam! done!
 
Am I correct it recalling that you can't even officially get refunds on digital pre orders on console when the game hasn't released yet? This new policy makes them look even worse.

Maybe a forced DEMO for any games sold on Steam would be a better option.


That's essentially what this program is really, in fact it's better (from a publisher's perspective) Its a demo program only for the people who could actually buy the game if they want to/forget to return it.
 
The death of short games.


I know it stems from a good intention, but in practice this new policy is terrible: play that cool 1h game once then get a refund.
It fucks up the devs who release small-size games. As a short-game lover, this is fucking horrible, I want them to be viable.
 
Yet another reason for developers to go F2P.

I agree, this will not do good for developers as many gamers can take advantage of this for small games or just to try every game like a demo for 2 hours and ask refund. This will force developers to push content behind DLC and microtransations more or F2P.
 
I agree, this will not dogood for developers as many gamers can take advantage of this for small games or just to try every game like a demo for 2 hours and ask refund. This will force developers to push content behind DLC and microtransations more or F2P.
If a game can't be profitable with demos, good riddance.
People will get the chance to return misleading products, broken games, shitty ports and ripoffs. Sounds perfectly fine to me.
 
I agree, this will not do good for developers as many gamers can take advantage of this for small games or just to try every game like a demo for 2 hours and ask refund. This will force developers to push content behind DLC and microtransations more or F2P.

The FAQ states in no uncertain terms that those found to be abusing the system for the sake of using it as a de facto trial service will be blacklisted. Also, as I said in the Steam thread, Valve pays out monthly and people have always been able to request refunds on pre-orders, so I don't think this revamped refund policy actually required much of a change in the way Valve handles publisher payments.
 
Fucking amazing. Can cancel pre-orders at any time too and up to 14 days after release.

Time for Sony and Microsoft to get their shit together too.
 
If a game can't be profitable with demos, good riddance.
People will get the chance to return misleading products, broken games, shitty ports and ripoffs. Sounds perfectly fine to me.
Goodbye to publishers putting their games on Steam if they are forced to make demos. There are many other digital distribution services.
 
Except in the UK, where it was back to "mystery force cock-blocking UK and only UK steam releases" again.

Yeah, my theory behind what happened is that either an Ubi employee was supposed to take the games down from the UK store specifically (they were available in the UK prior) but accidentally yanked them across the board or said employee misunderstood the directive and intentionally -- but no less mistakenly -- pulled them worldwide.
 
About time, shame we're barely getting it but better late than never.

Towerfall, you will always be a black spot on my library.
 
That's essentially what this program is really, in fact it's better (from a publisher's perspective) Its a demo program only for the people who could actually buy the game if they want to/forget to return it.

Yeah but not for me since in theory my next X number of games I get I might want to refund them all, but that could end the ability to get refunds in the future because it's "to many refunds done", so a DEMO that can not influence any negative effect to me or my account might have been better for me as a customer.
 
Steam finally catching up to Origin. You don't hear that often lol. At least EA's customer service reps talk to you almost instantly.
 
Steam finally catching up to Origin. You don't hear that often lol. At least EA's customer service reps talk to you almost instantly.

Strictly speaking, Valve's ahead now since EA's refund policy doesn't apply to third-party games. But, yeah, a revamped refund policy was definitely long overdue. I wonder if this had anything to do with it. ;)
 
I wish this had been in place a month earlier because I had bought a multiplayer only game only to find out that the player base is dead. Still, there's no harm in submitting a refund request and seeing what they say. The worst they can do is say no.
 
So 2 hour demos for every game!
Is this a fully automated process though? Could get embarrassing if you keep having to ask an advisor :)


The great thing about this is that it will make developers have to think more about the quality of their releases, if it's this easy for unhappy customers to get a refund.
 
So I can purchase anything I want, play it for less than 2 hours and request a refund after?

Technically, yes, but it's going to be obvious to Valve if you're abusing the system for the purpose of trying out a game for free. From the link in the OP:

Abuse
Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.
 
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