Fallout 4 Officially Revealed for PC, Xbox One, PS4 [Reddit Rumor = Ban]

I want to go shoot up the bar from Cheers.

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Boston elevation map:

Maps


Outside of Telegraph Hill and Beacon Hill, where are these Bostonian Mountains?

I'm going to guess the game doesn't entirely take place in Boston.

(Unless the developers are intentionally exaggerating those two "hills" in the game.)
Would not be surprised if they pushed the map west into the Berkshires and that whole region. Wouldn't be the first time they've had a ton of countryside outside the city.
 
That's speculation. Nothing in his/her's post indicates that they know what happened behind the scenes.

At least the explanation is plausible

My personal take is that this product represents what they felt is the best compromise between all the things they wanted to accomplish from a design standpoint

Looks great and I hope it plays great too
 
Never played a Fallout game before, but that trailer has me intrigued. Is it necessary to play through 3 and NV before playing this one?
He asks, knowing as much about the game as the people he is asking.

Also, graphics aren't that bad. Reminds me of Wolfenstein: TNO but with a slightly different art design that focuses on colors rather than sharp detail. Do we know if this is running on id tech or not?


You should play them but it's not necessary.
 
I feel my IQ points slowly dropping with every page. Looks like a bad PS3 game? Doesn't look any better than F3? San Andreas hands? Could probably be rendered optimally on a 3DS?

Jesus christ.

You and I both.

I'm fine with people being a little disappointed in the visuals because they certainly aren't anything impressive but the insane hyperbole about just how poor they are is ridiculous.
 
Never played a Fallout game before, but that trailer has me intrigued. Is it necessary to play through 3 and NV before playing this one?

Questions like this always baffle me. Bethesda make triple A games that sell in the tens of millions. They don't achieve that by making them only accessible to players already familiar with the series.
 
If this is set after NV then anything set near Boston would be a dense forest again by gametime, unless people are chopping the trees down as fast as they can grow. Plants deal with nuclear fallout far better than people. The Red Forest by Chernobyl is one of the most irradiated places on earth but the forest itself has largely grown back after only thirty years.

Granted, that forest has other issues, but given NV is something like 200 years after the war, and this is presumably after that, then plantlife should mostly be back. I won't knock it for that though, as it's purely an artistic choice anyways, and Fallout is hardly the most realistic of game universes.

The DC area is more thickly forested than New England so it is consistent with FO3.
 
lmao. can't tell if serious

I am deadly serious. The game looks like shit, anyone who says otherwise is deluded. This is coming from someone who loved Fallout 3 and NV, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. It would have looked incredible on last gen but we have been spoiled with some truly spectular looking games this gen.
 
Gah. Another east coast Fallout. I'm disappoint. Also super curious what it is they're doin that prevents them from putting it on last gen hardware.
 
Originally Posted by Darkstorne

This game was in pre-production since 2008, and full production since 2011 - two years before current gen consoles went on sale and before they even officially existed. Fallout is a series expected to sell 10 million + copies these days. Chances are extremely high this started out as a cross-gen game but shifted to current gen only a year or so ago when Zenimax were convinced by PS4/Xbone adoption rates to ditch the larger install base of last gen.

That explains the lower-than-expected graphic quality. At least we'll easily be seeing 1080p and 30+fps on consoles, and PC gamers know not to worry about visuals in Bethesda Game Studios titles anyway =)



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uhhh...pretty sure killzone and infamous second son also started around 2011.

and i'm pretty sure bethesda, of all devs, were aware of the existence of ps4/xbone that time. 2 years before product launch is really, really close. it isn't like bethesda knew of the ps4 when it was revealed on feb 2013.
 
I like that the game has more colour but the graphical fidelity isn't all that great.

At least we won't see a downgrade. Right? RIGHT?
 
M°°nblade;166293253 said:
Please, stop that hivemind / strawman stuff.

Being upfront about visuals =/= poor visuals

Thank you for this post. I just stopped discussing things when all I get for a response is that.
 
Does anyone know the name of the song that plays at the start of the trailer?
 
Now every Fallout 4 prerelease discussion is going to be tainted by a bunch of delusional children who think the PS4 is some kind of ultra high end gaming PC.

Who the is even saying this? Have seen something like Far Cry 4 on Ps4? Shits all over this game graphical. Who's delusional?
 
Graphically it is pretty underwhelming, and that dog has some terrible animation in spots. But then again... this is a Fallout game, and I never really played these games for their graphics.
 
Never played a Fallout game before, but that trailer has me intrigued. Is it necessary to play through 3 and NV before playing this one?
He asks, knowing as much about the game as the people he is asking.

Also, graphics aren't that bad. Reminds me of Wolfenstein: TNO but with a slightly different art design that focuses on colors rather than sharp detail. Do we know if this is running on id tech or not?

To your first question, no...apart from some references here or there, every Fallout game has had a self contained story..

To your second question, it's all but assuredly running on Bethesda's usual janky-ass Gamebryo permutation of the week.
 
Im not trying to bash it

I am genuinely excited

But if these graphics whiners need an explanation for why this game looks lesser in comparison to more recent titles the development timeline seems like the clearest indication

It began development BEFORE and is releasing DURING the current gen. Is that not FACT at this point?
That doesn't make it a cross gen game. :/ Believe it or not, developers can and do(particularly multiplatform devs) spend a lot of time developing games on PC before they start getting put on consoles. This is probably especially true for prominent PC developers like DICE and Bethesda.
 
uhhh...pretty sure killzone and infamous second son also started around 2011.

and i'm pretty sure bethesda, of all devs, were aware of the existence of ps4/xbone that time. 2 years before product launch is really, really close. it isn't like bethesda knew of the ps4 when it was revealed on feb 2013.

Then maybe my explanation is more plausible

This is the product they set out to make. Any compromise to whatever their design ambition at the time was neccessary and intentional

Maybe this is what they are reasonably capable of producing regardless of how you all feel it SHOULD look in this day and age

That doesn't make it a cross gen game. :/ Believe it or not, developers can and do(particularly multiplatform devs) spend a lot of time developing games on PC before they start getting put on consoles. This is probably especially true for prominent PC developers like DICE and Bethesda.

Then the scope and ambition were determined by the resources they had access to at the time and what they wanted to invest into the next project.

People here seem to think that aiming for the cutting edge should always be the go to goal of any project or its not good enough
 
Who the is even saying this? Have seen something like Far Cry 4 on Ps4? Shits all over this game graphical. Who's delusional?

FarCry 3 and 2 looked better than both Fallout 3, New Vegas.

Different developers, different mindsets, different games, different engines.
 
I feel my IQ points slowly dropping with every page. Looks like a bad PS3 game? Doesn't look any better than F3? San Andreas hands? Could probably be rendered optimally on a 3DS?

Jesus christ.

It's not that bad. Just wait until somebody compares it with Ocarina of Time or Goldeneye.
 
All this time waiting, and when the time finally comes, the announcement thread is filled with complaints about graphics.

You disappoint me, GAF.

It is a strong argument for never actually making those inevitable sequels everyone wants.

People spend years building up what it should look like in their heads. Of course the new Fallout will blow us away, they've been making it for six years! Of course it will be a graphical powerhouse, I spent $400 on this system, all the games will use 100% of its power on making 100% of the things look as good as they can.

I wish it looked better. I got over it not looking better by the end of the trailer and just wanted to play it. People can focus on the graphics as if they're the only thing that's interesting about the game from now until release, I'll just add it to the growing list of game discussions I don't want to take part in because the community focuses on something I'm already over.
 
Gah. Another east coast Fallout. I'm disappoint. Also super curious what it is they're doin that prevents them from putting it on last gen hardware.
If the trailer is indicative of anything, the scope and density of the city and world size, as well as the much improved texture and lighting work over their previous efforts, probably is way too much for the 512 megs of ram on last gen.
 
uhhh...pretty sure killzone and infamous second son also started around 2011.

and i'm pretty sure bethesda, of all devs, were aware of the existence of ps4/xbone that time. 2 years before product launch is really, really close. it isn't like bethesda knew of the ps4 when it was revealed on feb 2013.

Its more to do with the install base. The consoles have been selling pretty well as well as a decent game attachment rate where as with the previous generation this pick up rate was a lot slower. From a Business perspective previous gen would be on the cards.

The graphics look fine though! Just not mind blowing but that isn't to be expected from a Bethesda game. I'm hoping it would have had a bit more shine to it like Dragon Age but still I think it visually very pretty!
 
M°°nblade;166293565 said:
I don't think 'detail' means what you think it means. This comes from someone who played daggerfall as well. :P

The meaning of detail is contextual, and I wasn't referring to graphical detail. I think you're the one who's misinterpreting what detail means.
 
I am deadly serious. The game looks like shit, anyone who says otherwise is deluded. This is coming from someone who loved Fallout 3 and NV, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. It would have looked incredible on last gen but we have been spoiled with some truly spectular looking games this gen.
This guy's deadly serious guys.
 
Also, for those crying over Gamebryo let me ask you this: what other licensable engines exist that are capable of rendering open worlds on a Bethesda scale?
 
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