Would not be surprised if they pushed the map west into the Berkshires and that whole region. Wouldn't be the first time they've had a ton of countryside outside the city.Boston elevation map:
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Outside of Telegraph Hill and Beacon Hill, where are these Bostonian Mountains?
I'm going to guess the game doesn't entirely take place in Boston.
(Unless the developers are intentionally exaggerating those two "hills" in the game.)
I couldn't care less about the graphics, it's the general aesthetic and the atmosphere that disappoints me.
He's not wrong.M°°nblade;166293253 said:Please, stop that hivemind / strawman stuff.
Being upfront about visuals =/= poor visuals
That's speculation. Nothing in his/her's post indicates that they know what happened behind the scenes.
Do you have the names of those mods? I'm very intrigued.
Never played a Fallout game before, but that trailer has me intrigued. Is it necessary to play through 3 and NV before playing this one?He asks, knowing as much about the game as the people he is asking.
Also, graphics aren't that bad. Reminds me of Wolfenstein: TNO but with a slightly different art design that focuses on colors rather than sharp detail. Do we know if this is running on id tech or not?
I feel my IQ points slowly dropping with every page. Looks like a bad PS3 game? Doesn't look any better than F3? San Andreas hands? Could probably be rendered optimally on a 3DS?
Jesus christ.
I'm already dropped to drooling vegetable state after few pages.I feel my IQ points slowly dropping with every page. Looks like a bad PS3 game? Doesn't look any better than F3? San Andreas hands? Could probably be rendered optimally on a 3DS?
Jesus christ.
Never played a Fallout game before, but that trailer has me intrigued. Is it necessary to play through 3 and NV before playing this one?
Why would you want good graphics when you could have a great story, great writing and great animations.
Oh.
If this is set after NV then anything set near Boston would be a dense forest again by gametime, unless people are chopping the trees down as fast as they can grow. Plants deal with nuclear fallout far better than people. The Red Forest by Chernobyl is one of the most irradiated places on earth but the forest itself has largely grown back after only thirty years.
Granted, that forest has other issues, but given NV is something like 200 years after the war, and this is presumably after that, then plantlife should mostly be back. I won't knock it for that though, as it's purely an artistic choice anyways, and Fallout is hardly the most realistic of game universes.
lmao. can't tell if serious
Originally Posted by Darkstorne
This game was in pre-production since 2008, and full production since 2011 - two years before current gen consoles went on sale and before they even officially existed. Fallout is a series expected to sell 10 million + copies these days. Chances are extremely high this started out as a cross-gen game but shifted to current gen only a year or so ago when Zenimax were convinced by PS4/Xbone adoption rates to ditch the larger install base of last gen.
That explains the lower-than-expected graphic quality. At least we'll easily be seeing 1080p and 30+fps on consoles, and PC gamers know not to worry about visuals in Bethesda Game Studios titles anyway =)
Ill Just repost this again
M°°nblade;166293253 said:Please, stop that hivemind / strawman stuff.
Being upfront about visuals =/= poor visuals
Now every Fallout 4 prerelease discussion is going to be tainted by a bunch of delusional children who think the PS4 is some kind of ultra high end gaming PC.
The game looks completely underwhelming visually speaking..
I feel my IQ points slowly dropping with every page. Looks like a bad PS3 game? Doesn't look any better than F3? San Andreas hands? Could probably be rendered optimally on a 3DS?
Jesus christ.
Never played a Fallout game before, but that trailer has me intrigued. Is it necessary to play through 3 and NV before playing this one?He asks, knowing as much about the game as the people he is asking.
Also, graphics aren't that bad. Reminds me of Wolfenstein: TNO but with a slightly different art design that focuses on colors rather than sharp detail. Do we know if this is running on id tech or not?
That doesn't make it a cross gen game. :/ Believe it or not, developers can and do(particularly multiplatform devs) spend a lot of time developing games on PC before they start getting put on consoles. This is probably especially true for prominent PC developers like DICE and Bethesda.Im not trying to bash it
I am genuinely excited
But if these graphics whiners need an explanation for why this game looks lesser in comparison to more recent titles the development timeline seems like the clearest indication
It began development BEFORE and is releasing DURING the current gen. Is that not FACT at this point?
It's mainly ENB for the lighting overhaul: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/18107/?
Same reason Skyrim ends up looking so good on PC. I have no doubt Fallout 4 will quickly become one of the best looking games of the generation once modders get their hands on it =)
Gah. Another east coast Fallout. I'm disappoint. Also super curious what it is they're doin that prevents them from putting it on last gen hardware.
uhhh...pretty sure killzone and infamous second son also started around 2011.
and i'm pretty sure bethesda, of all devs, were aware of the existence of ps4/xbone that time. 2 years before product launch is really, really close. it isn't like bethesda knew of the ps4 when it was revealed on feb 2013.
That doesn't make it a cross gen game. :/ Believe it or not, developers can and do(particularly multiplatform devs) spend a lot of time developing games on PC before they start getting put on consoles. This is probably especially true for prominent PC developers like DICE and Bethesda.
Looks like fucking gamebryo again. You can go fuck yourself bethesda.
Who the is even saying this? Have seen something like Far Cry 4 on Ps4? Shits all over this game graphical. Who's delusional?
I feel my IQ points slowly dropping with every page. Looks like a bad PS3 game? Doesn't look any better than F3? San Andreas hands? Could probably be rendered optimally on a 3DS?
Jesus christ.
They didnt go the bullshit trailer route either. I applaud them for that.Par the course for fallout. Nobody goes into fallout expecting good current generation graphics i'd hope
Geometry? Ai? weather effects? loading times?
do you people even play video games or just watch them?
Does anyone know the name of the song that plays at the start of the trailer?
All this time waiting, and when the time finally comes, the announcement thread is filled with complaints about graphics.
You disappoint me, GAF.
So you want The Last of Us? Fallout takes place after a nuclear war. Plants would not have taken over the landscape because of the radiation.
If the trailer is indicative of anything, the scope and density of the city and world size, as well as the much improved texture and lighting work over their previous efforts, probably is way too much for the 512 megs of ram on last gen.Gah. Another east coast Fallout. I'm disappoint. Also super curious what it is they're doin that prevents them from putting it on last gen hardware.
I think early 2016 is a safe bet.
uhhh...pretty sure killzone and infamous second son also started around 2011.
and i'm pretty sure bethesda, of all devs, were aware of the existence of ps4/xbone that time. 2 years before product launch is really, really close. it isn't like bethesda knew of the ps4 when it was revealed on feb 2013.
M°°nblade;166293565 said:I don't think 'detail' means what you think it means. This comes from someone who played daggerfall as well.![]()
This guy's deadly serious guys.I am deadly serious. The game looks like shit, anyone who says otherwise is deluded. This is coming from someone who loved Fallout 3 and NV, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. It would have looked incredible on last gen but we have been spoiled with some truly spectular looking games this gen.
Eh, placeholders mean nothing.