Roy (our boy) & Ryu confirmed for Smash Bros

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Explain to me the relevance of listing the number of DKC reps in expressing disappointment
Uh, you're in a thread about DLC characters for Smash, and many people think that DKC is an under represented franchise in Smash. Which is something that could have been addressed with DLC. Plus the fact that one of the characters that is part of this DLC is from a franchise that already has four representatives, and this new one doesn't really bring anything that those characters already didn't bring.

It shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
 
Wow, even with knowing about their existence ahead of time it would have been a huge surprise to get Roy and Ryu tommorow out of nowhere. Even moreso if the mewtwo patch had never been datamined.
 
Well, Smash Bros. is a perfect way to promote classic, forgotten characters. Hopefully the news for E3 that hasn't been leaked yet is that Lucas and Roy are promoting the release of Mother 3 and Fire Emblem Sword of Seals on the eshop. :D

I would imagine Roy being included in Smash would promote Amiibo functionality in Fire Emblem If that Nintendo will detail during their Nintendo Direct...

But I really want Nintendo to release a "Fire Emblem Anniversary Collection" with all the unlocalized entries so chock up another vote for Fuuin no Tsurugi (hopefully) finally coming to North America after that tease in Fire Emblem.
 
Listening to the songs found in the patch, I'm so happy Blue Birds and Monkey Watch from Rhythm Heaven are in! I'm really hoping we get more RH songs, or even better, a RH stage so we could get some more rhythmy goodness.
I am excited as well.
Been playing the Best Plus recently.
 
This made me smile :)

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Oh, I'm sorry I'd prefer better characters I actually would use for the Smash Bros DLC.

I would too, but if he's still a clone then he didn't take much effort to put in. So even if he wasn't put in, that doesn't mean a different character would have replaced him.
 
But... if this is their pre-E3 smash reveal (which is a big deal even with the leak)...

... What is coming during E3?!
 
It's complicated, but also not. Roy's popularity in Smash Bros has little to do with Fire Emblem as a series.

When Melee came out, a lot of younger Nintendo fans had no idea who Marth and Roy were. Melee was their first introduction to the characters. And these characters came with no supplemental trophies or stages. So what people saw of Marth and Roy is exactly what they got.

Marth and Roy were cool because they seemed so "serious" compared to the other Melee fighters. The rest of the cast were cartoon characters, but Marth and Roy seemed much more mysterious and mature.

Nobody knew where they were from (beyond the title of their series), nobody could even understand what they were saying (if they didn't speak Japanese), so what we have are two cool, mysterious characters that felt drastically different from the rest of the cast. Fire Emblem, through exposure, has been largely normalized in Smash Bros. But back then, they stuck out like sore thumbs.

So you have these two cool characters you know nothing about and have no attachment to beyond Melee. You have Marth, who is cool and fast. But then you have Roy, who has a sweet chestplate, red hair, and explodes fire out of his sword. Where Marth was elegant and agile, Roy felt rough and tough. He captured a lot of boyish attitude that appealed to young male players.

Without any other context, Roy was easily one of the coolest characters in the game. There's a reason why he was such a popular "noob" character. He was so new and interesting and had a complex design and EXPLODED INTO FLAMES.

Roy was our boy.
Finale Fireworker is right. To put a slight twist on what he said, what people sometimes forget is that Roy is not simply a Fire Emblem character who is judged on the merit of his relevance to that franchise. To many people, Roy is, for all practical purposes, a Melee character. As long as Smash, as a franchise, is relevant, so too is Roy.
 
Dafuq. I think the opposite. How is Ryu boring but FE clone Roy isn't.

They are both boring as shit. Roy will, most likely, just be another half ass clone in a game that already has a clone of a character he's the clone of, though his new design is great, and Ryu is just going to do the same boring ass shit he's always done along with his personality of drying paint. They're both awful choices, there are much better options to choose from both of their franchises.
 
Oh, I'm sorry I'd prefer better characters I actually would use for the Smash Bros DLC.

My apologies for not loving the super-exciting Marth clone from Melee with ph1r3.
They wouldn't make a new character instead of Roy, it would be either Roy or another clone/veteran fighter. Sakurai isn't replacing monkeys with clones.
 
Ryu is iconic. I'm glad he got in. I love Fire Emblem, but Roy is a bit redundant especially with Lucina. It would be nice if they could differentiate the Marth/Lucina/Roy trio a bit more down the line.
 
They wouldn't make a new character instead of Roy, it would be either Roy or another clone/veteran fighter. Sakurai isn't replacing monkeys with clones.
I would too, but if he's still a clone then he didn't take much effort to put in. So even if he wasn't put in, that doesn't mean a different character would have replaced him.
I mean, does it take more effort to port over a character like Wolf than Roy? And even if it did, there are still probably better options for clones.

I was just using Donkey Kong as an example of how ridiculous it is we're getting another Fire Emblem character, and not a very interesting one.
 
I'm down with Ryu, but I hope they've made some changes, or something to sell me on Roy. I never had any affinity for him in Melee, he's a clone of a character we already have a clone for, and he's just plain the wrong Lord to take from the GBA Fire Emblem games. I'll probably get him for completionist's sake, but he doesn't really excite me.

At least PM is putting in Lyn because they know what's up.
 
Does anyone know where I can listen to Ryu's Japanese voice?

I know it won't be available for the US version but I just wanna check to see if it's Hiroki Takahashi.
 
It's complicated, but also not. Roy's popularity in Smash Bros has little to do with Fire Emblem as a series.

When Melee came out, a lot of younger Nintendo fans had no idea who Marth and Roy were. Melee was their first introduction to the characters. And these characters came with no supplemental trophies or stages. So what people saw of Marth and Roy is exactly what they got.

Marth and Roy were cool because they seemed so "serious" compared to the other Melee fighters. The rest of the cast were cartoon characters, but Marth and Roy seemed much more mysterious and mature.

Nobody knew where they were from (beyond the title of their series), nobody could even understand what they were saying (if they didn't speak Japanese), so what we have are two cool, mysterious characters that felt drastically different from the rest of the cast. Fire Emblem, through exposure, has been largely normalized in Smash Bros. But back then, they stuck out like sore thumbs.

So you have these two cool characters you know nothing about and have no attachment to beyond Melee. You have Marth, who is cool and fast. But then you have Roy, who has a sweet chestplate, red hair, and explodes fire out of his sword. Where Marth was elegant and agile, Roy felt rough and tough. He captured a lot of boyish attitude that appealed to young male players.

Without any other context, Roy was easily one of the coolest characters in the game. There's a reason why he was such a popular "noob" character. He was so new and interesting and had a complex design and EXPLODED INTO FLAMES.

Roy was our boy.
You just summed up my childhood.

Perfect explanation. Smash is definitely what got me into the Fire Emblem series because after using the characters, I wanted to know more about where they came from.
 
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Been a while since I updated this.

Is anyone using the Lucas one as an avatar?

I mean, does it take more effort to port over a character like Wolf than Roy? And even if it did, there are still probably better options for clones.

I was just using Donkey Kong as an example of how ridiculous it is we're getting another Fire Emblem character, and not a very interesting one.

I think most people would prefer Wolf over Roy....but with veterans being popular, and with Roy coming back, I think it's likely Wolf is coming back later on too. You'd have a point if he ends up not coming out at all.
 
I don't hate Ryu.

Not at all.

I just want more unique Nintendo characters.
Metroid, Sakurai, why

I do feel bad for Sakurai, but at any rate, the renders look really good. I'm kind of hype about Dreamland 64 being back, to be honest, and hope we see more stage inclusions like that.
 
I would imagine Roy being included in Smash would promote Amiibo functionality in Fire Emblem If that Nintendo will detail during their Nintendo Direct...

But I really want Nintendo to release a "Fire Emblem Anniversary Collection" with all the unlocalized entries so chock up another vote for Fuuin no Tsurugi (hopefully) finally coming to North America after that tease in Fire Emblem.
I would pay a high price for that. And it's kinda weird that Roy is hyped up now as being a popular character in the West when we can't even play his game legally.

And don't worry DK fans. During the next reveal, they will reveal another GAF favorite, Cranky Kong. Heck, yeah.
 
I mean, does it take more effort to port over a character like Wolf than Roy? And even if it did, there are still probably better options for clones.

No, it probably doesn't, but you can blame the people who asked for Roy more than Wolf. Sucks, but Roy is more popular.
 
Finale Fireworker is right. To put a slight twist on what he said, what people sometimes forget is that Roy is not simply a Fire Emblem character who is judged on the merit of his relevance to that franchise. To many people, Roy is, for all practical purposes, a Melee character. As long as Smash, as a franchise, is relevant, so too is Roy.

Yeah this is how I see him too. The fact that his first game appearance was Melee really drives this point home.
 
I'm pretty hyped for new amiibo. It'll be great to have the whole Fire Emblem line.

On a side note, it's going to be strange having two Marth clones.
 
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