It’s not our job

I will say that during the Steam sale when I rebought Control (just to have it on Steam) I did have a sense of "yeah, Remedy deserves an extra $6". Also, the only microtransactions I ever really bought was in Killing Floor 2 for the same reasons. This was before they flooded it with actual shitty microtransactions. I just wanted to give Tripwire more money! (RIP Tripwire. Fuck the guys who stole your skinsuit).
 
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It's a gaming forum where we talk about different aspects of video games, including studio layoffs/closures, which affect the production of games that you play.
 
Following the news about the industry helps inform me about my purchasing decisions. If I see major layoffs or changes in direction / leadership in a studio that once produced the games I like, chances are their future games will be shit. A good example is Arkane.
 
It' is not my job. However, I have followed the industry for decades now and will continue to do so. It's been a hobby of mine since its introduction and I am not going to bow out and stop voicing my opinions about the health of the industry because the messaging has shifted. I get the idea behind the OP but there have been some changes based on gamer voices over recent years. The day we ignore the business practices of these companies we have 100% lost.
 
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You're absolutely right and the only people who do care about this shit are way too invested beyond their own lives to actually care. Caring about something that has nothing to do with you in any way is a luxury I wish I had.
 
I've just paid £20 for Rimworld Odyssey, an expansion to a very cheap game that I bought in early access.

I have 3,000 hours in the game already and this DLC is going to get another 3000 horus at least, its that good. Tell me again why I need to waste £80 on a mid AAA game that I will finish in 12 hours and never touch again?
 
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I've just paid £20 for Rimworld Odyssey, an expansion to a very cheap game that I bought in early access.

I have 3,000 hours in the game already and this DLC is going to get another 3000 horus at least, its that good. Tell me again why I need to waste £80 on a mid AAA game that I will finish in 12 hours and never touch again?
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It depends who you talk to.

One person or dev will say enjoy what you like and keep going. Even it's a low priced game no problem. Support and enjoy the game till you die.

On the flip side, some gamers and devs will call you cheap. You shouldnt be milking the game to the bone. If every gamer did that the entire industry will go broke. Stop playing and buy more games to keep the sales chugging like a good boy. And to prove your manliness, buy your games at full price day one without reading reviews. Just buy up so tech bro can keep his job.
 
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Poeole can care and talk about whatever the hell they want. You don't have a job as a gamer for pixels on a screen. It's a hobby and folks will discuss any variable that goes into the gaming equation.

You're job as a peasant is too not look behind the curtain, just consume product. Shut up, you take fictional characters on a tv and the industry way too seriously.
 
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EverydayBeast said:
It's not our job to worry about layoffs, and the profits of a companies hardware, our job as a gamer is without question to play games.

I welcome comments to this topic, has gaming become a business club.
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Someone had to say it…
Also, it would be nice if we had a layoff thread instead of a new thread every time someone lays some off. It's getting kind of out of hand. And before anyone says "just ignore the thread", I do that…that's not the point. The rules apply to game threads, they should also apply to layoff posts too. Idk, just a thought 🤷‍♂️
 
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Poeole can care and talk about whatever the hell they want. You don't have a job as a gamer for pixels on a screen. It's a hobby and folks will discuss any variable that goes into the gaming equation.

You're job as a peasant is too not look behind the curtain, just consume product. Shut up, you take fictional characters on a tv and the industry way too seriously.
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Yup.

Gamers, just support the games you like and ignore all the crud. And if that means a company has to lay off people because they went ape shit on giant budgets during covid thinking they're dude bro big shots who make crap games or cant even release one game in 5 years with huge budgets, that's on them to figure out how to convince the bosses to keep their jobs. Not us.

The vast majority of jobs out there are not so blessed with being able to coast for 5 years with nothing to show for but a canned trailer and some subpar progress floating around the office. Normie jobs are going to skew to doing a good job right off the bat and perform now. We dont get to say.... "Well, can you bosses give us $50M and 5 years? Trust us it'll be good in the year 2030".

So if they cant hack it, fuck em. Especially with the weird politics in games and social media comebacks at gamers. They already hit the lottery making good cash for years while delivering either zero, or some subpar performing products. So just like any job, if you cant perform you're gone.
 
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Healthy Industry = More (and hopefully, better) Games
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For an industry to be healthy, it has to find equilibrium between supply and demand.
When ton of games fail to find audience and lose dozens/hundreds of millions of dollars, as happens on regular basis, companies lay people off or go bankrupt - as they should. This is all part of the industry being healthy.
 
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Remember folks, we are not here to think or question or have opinions. We must only consoom...

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And remember, as always, that the mega corporations loveth us dearly. 💰❤️💰
 
If a company makes a good game, the ability of said company to repeat the trick is called into question if all the people leave, especially on repeated attempts. So if it's our "job" to play games, then this should be relevant in our calculus.
 
EverydayBeast said:
It's not our job to worry about layoffs, and the profits of a companies hardware, our job as a gamer is without question to play games.

I welcome comments to this topic, has gaming become a business club.
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Well, if you're fan of some company/team/game series you may want them to have a profitable/sustainable business enough.

So it's good to be informed about it to later better understand why (in most cases) they no longer make games of your favorite series, laid off many of their devs or closed their studio. And normal to discuss about it.

And well, if you want your favorite series/studio to continue alive you can support them with your wallet and recommending the game to others. And well, you can also help them sending feedback of the things you liked or disliked via social media, oficial discords and so on.
 
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I don't really see it as my job to play games. It's something I enjoy, but when it feels like work I turn it off. The primary job I care about is my own. I have empathy when people lose their jobs, though. It's rough to go through. I think with the crazy budgets and development time the industry will still have some turbulence until these companies figure it out.
 
Video game industry would get a lot more empathy if it was like other industries..... it's normal to get a refund. I can wear a new pair of jeans all month, it rips and still refund it as long as I dont hit 30 days. And that doesn't even include crazy return policies like Costco.

I know e-stores will refund you a digital purchase if you do it fast enough and the CSR agrees to it. But it's still a buyer beware kind of industry especially if you buy discs. Then youre stuck.

So if any game companies want some more customer satisfaction, stand up to your products and offer refunds. I'm not saying they have to do Costco infinite refund policies, but something much better and standard as opposed to rolling the dice on a Steam/console refund request.

And let's face it. Every one of us (especially back before digital refunds were even a thing) has gotten burned with a POS disc or cartridge. Then as a last resort you sell it to a store or ebay trying to get back as much as you can.

If game companies dont want to stand proud living up to their products, then no gamers should either at them.
 
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If it's not part of our job then this medium isn't serious. And that's fine really.

I hope you haven't brought this up because you're trying to get Microsoft a break. Because that's definitely not our job..
 
Well it's also not my job to worry about my "HARDware", but if it rises out of its hidden spot at unspecific & unwanted times, I have to get it under control. Just having fun with my Joystick doesn't cut it.

Same with this. If you want your hobby to grow healthy and stay at its place, then you have to deathgrip these jerks and make sure they are productive with their outputs.

Especially xbox, they pulled out of too many projects either too early or too late. At this point they are more about abortion than investing.
 
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