Oh my god
Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
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Oh my god
Fahrenheit
Banned
Call me when Red Dead and Dragons Dogma works
Oh and Dead Rising 1
Oh and Dead Rising 1
LukasTaves
Member
Maybe they are different OS versions? IIRC, while not as virtualized as xbone, on 360 each game did come with its version of the game OS...
Games that launched around the same time should have similar deltas I guess...
i can see Bethesda and 2k allowing elder scrolls and old GTA games to be on there, because I don't think they'd care that much. But I can't see activist in allowing old COd games with MP to be on there. Ubi soft also seems to be on board with rainbow six
I don't imagine that would be the case for XBLA games. A few hundred mb for the NXE update etc wouldn't mean much to most retail games, but for digital only games, it'd be larger than the game itself in many cases. Also if you're downloading an XBLA game, then logically you should already be on the correct OS version.
If you have a physical copy, and ms get the devs licensing ok, the rest ms will take care off.
I like the way you think!
And yes, I voted. But Blur doesn't appear on that list at all
To be clear, I expect that we'll see PGR (and probably others like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey too). However when we see them, I'd expect a digital version to pop up for sale at the same time. If you have to go through basically the same process as putting the game up on GoD in order to make the physical copy work, then why wouldn't you actually just make it available on GoD?
done.
As it´s about +500 MB for each game I would bet you download the emulated OS new with every game.
Would also make sense as with all the XBox One Dashboard updates there has never been a bigger download to incorporate the Xbox 360 OS.
BuffetChamp
Banned
Sorry if this has already been asked(this thread is huge) but what about the games for Gold games we've been given and downloaded on our 360s as Gold members?
Does this transfer over to the X1 or is it that we have to have the real disk anyways to enjoy backward compatibility?
Does this transfer over to the X1 or is it that we have to have the real disk anyways to enjoy backward compatibility?
You can use all digital titles you own (including the free ones from the Games with Gold programme)
PGR4 had issues running off HDDs which is why I suspect it never made it officially to GoD. I was able to make it run solely off HDD on my JTAG 360 and also via installing it legit from disc on my slim, but the menu sound skipped and I think there were in-game sound glitches too.
No idea if the "virtual" 360 would do this, though.
Yea, I assume that the OS comes with each game. But it's not a constant delta across different games. That would suggest the OS is different for each game, which seems unlikely, because you can visually see the VM is always based on the later 360 UI. So if the OS isn't what causes the difference, then maybe the game data itself isn't unaltered, which would be why you need to download the actual game to play a disc, rather than just the correct VM.
Yea true, I tried installing PGR4 once. It was awful.
Judging by how accurate the VM seems to be, I'd imagine it'd encounter the same problem (Halo 3 would probably load forever as well).
BuffetChamp
Banned
Well damn! This is really really slick. So in other words our X1 digital library will continue to grow as we continue to stay subscribed to Gold and are given more games every month.
This is so sweet. This is gonna push a few of my friends off the their 360 fence towards X1's now. They just never quite made that move to getting one because they have 360s. Usually they focus on one system before eventually later trading it in for a new system. This is like killing two birds with one stone,very sexy temptation for folks.
Thanks for the info.
7DollarHagane
Banned
You know, in a crazy what if..
The ps4 is also a x86 system that has a very similar gpu setup.
They probably could enable Xbox 360 emulation on ps4 if they really wanted to.
Never would happen but it would be really funny to see.
The ps4 is also a x86 system that has a very similar gpu setup.
They probably could enable Xbox 360 emulation on ps4 if they really wanted to.
Never would happen but it would be really funny to see.
Just know that not very title is supported yet.
They increase the list constantly but for launch in Autumn about 100 titles will be supported.
Yes, should (technically) be possible.
But without the source code of the X360 OS and support from xbox live.
This is VERY VERY hard and online feature will not ever be possible.
N7Commander95
Member
Both Viva Pinata and Mass Effect are really good, in Mass Effect's case its actually feels a bit better
BuffetChamp
Banned
True. And just for that reason my friends will probably wait. Gotta remember to tell them this. Thanks.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Does the image look cleaner to you? I saw the Mass Effect screens in the screenshot topic and it looked really good.
Be good if someone can do a comparison shot of X360 vs XB1.
intheinbetween
Member
on a side note, I think you don't download the whole game, but just a "loader" or "launcher" with the necessary files. As you insert a 360 disc
in the tray a "Install Disc" pin appears in the dashboard. so I bet you won't have to download LO and BD files, the files will be copies to the hard drive
StoppedInTracks
Member
Hey I want Skyrim. Never played it but always planned to, heh.
StoppedInTracks
Member
No. MS has all the sales data, analytics data, performance data etc. in the world. They know where Xbox One is sitting and that it will never overcome the PS4 in some key areas like graphics, performance, japanese support etc. They are fine with that. But they needed a... DIFFERENTIATOR now that Kinect 2.0 is dead and buried. I would say they found a good one, no? They probably tried dozen other ideas in their R&D labs but nothing received such positive feedback (or low cost to implement, heh).
I am 100% behind this idea, BTW. Way better than to spend millions "optimizing" some games to run in 1080p or inventing new GPU firmwares and chasing that DX12 dream.
This is a real differentiator and a very much wanted feature.
Besides, MS had to "grow up" to understand what the gamers want. Xbone launch was a disaster focused on all the wrong things - we all know this. Phil Spencer really listens to the people IMO.
Diablohead
Member
Skyrim would be great, I own it digitally with all the DLC but bought it at a time where I never had too long to play it, I also gave my 360 to my little nephew.
Having that on xbox one would be lovely.
Having that on xbox one would be lovely.
I hope so, having my digital xbla games on the one will be exactly what I wanted from the beginning.
It *is* extended to XBLA titles. Like the ones bolded below:
They're all XBLA games. And I'm pretty sure one or two more are as well, but not sure which.
dancrane212
Member
MS did a great job making the titles feel like native XB1 games. There is even a start-up image on 360 games just like XB1 games/apps.
Coin Return
Loose Slot
Perfect Dark runs flawlessly, so glad to play it again!
Korean Jesus
Banned
I still can't believe this was actually announced. After giving up on my 360 after it broke down on me for the 6th time, I'm fucking excited to play all of my games again on Xbox One.
If this were to miraculously support the Cave X360 releases, including my JP region games, on a PAL Xbone, I think that'd be just about the only thing that could possibly get me to buy the console. Even then, the framerates would have to be rock solid (and slowdowns present where slowdowns are supposed to happen in the games), no "experience may vary".
As is, this is looking like a complete non-feature for me. With the exception of the JP arcade stuff, basically everything I could care about on the 360 is best played on the PC.
I know Microsoft's history of technological failure and nonstop bullshit in PC gaming, and I just had my first experience dealing with their customer service for the X360 which turns out was a disaster too. I bought Gold, it didn't work, and after what was probably 2 hours on chat with customer service, they conceded it's never going to work. It was not documented on their web, so there was no way for me to know - I checked very carefully. And all they had to offer as refund was... more Gold months, which they had just conceded was useless to me. Credit? No. A downloadable title? No. I'd even have taken an extra X360 power brick, but no.
(Incidentally, I have 4 x 1month codes for Gold that I want to get rid of. Would be happy to trade all of them for a $10-ish Steam/GOG game of my choice.)
As is, this is looking like a complete non-feature for me. With the exception of the JP arcade stuff, basically everything I could care about on the 360 is best played on the PC.
I know Microsoft's history of technological failure and nonstop bullshit in PC gaming, and I just had my first experience dealing with their customer service for the X360 which turns out was a disaster too. I bought Gold, it didn't work, and after what was probably 2 hours on chat with customer service, they conceded it's never going to work. It was not documented on their web, so there was no way for me to know - I checked very carefully. And all they had to offer as refund was... more Gold months, which they had just conceded was useless to me. Credit? No. A downloadable title? No. I'd even have taken an extra X360 power brick, but no.
(Incidentally, I have 4 x 1month codes for Gold that I want to get rid of. Would be happy to trade all of them for a $10-ish Steam/GOG game of my choice.)
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
This was all about converting 360 owners. 100%. A lot would have jumped ship to PS4 and they needed to retain the rest. This all but guarantees it. If you only owned a 360 right now, you'd be kinda crazy Not to buy an Xbox One after this announcement. Even if you're getting a PS4 as well.
Korean Jesus
Banned
Wouldn't work since PS4 doesn't run on Windows.
HighResTomato
Member
It was probably still being developed, a lot of features were not finalised when the Xbox One launched so I don't think it was possible back then.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-360-emulation-is-in-the-works-for-the-xbox-one--1240287 (April 2014)
So, this can play exactly *1* game out of my 113 X360 discs that I own and 1 out of nearly the same number of Digital titles that I own. Color me unimpressed. This might have finally been a real selling point for me if it actually meant a damned thing, since my old fat X360 Elite is sitting in a corner boxed up. I love video games and video game consoles, so please freaking try harder to sell me yours, Microsoft.
It's in the testing/early release stages.
That's like complaining about only getting two maps in an online Alpha of Halo.
Diablohead
Member
I wonder if it's possible for the 360 emulator to work in windows 10 since it's running on xbox one, would be interesting if that happens in the future.
Its a soft launch for preview members. There will be over 100 titles when its officially launched to everyone. This is a fucking awesome update, no need to be so salty about it.
I'm sure if they wanted to they could find a solution.
StoppedInTracks
Member
That sucks. If it stays this way then it's pretty weak.